Rude Receptionists- Telemarketing

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:rolleyes:....Hi there I know this is a quite a strange post but i was wondering if theres anyone out there that can advise me on how i can go about making a website/one page site for me to express my views and possibly list all companies that I speak to with very rude receptionists!!!! I do a lot of telemarketing and basically I am very polite and friendly to receptionists even if they are rude to me but when they think that they own the company and have the right to make decisions on behalf of other employees in the company!
Obviously if they have a no names policy or simply don't take cold calls fair enough but there is no need for them to speak to me/other telemarketers the way they do, thinking that they can answer on behalf of others without even consulting the person im calling to speak to and the tone of voice they speak to me in. maybe if i was pushy and rude back then i expect to be spoken to like that but I am fed up with these snotty receptionists thinking they can get away with it- surely the directors of these companies would'nt be happy if they knew how they spoke to people on the phone- i could be a client for all they know!
I am unsure if this would be illegal for me to do, on an actual published website i mean, obviously if i just keep a record for myself I should imagine its ok but i really want to make a wesite and express my views and also so that other telemarketers can add details to aswel, if they like!!!
Anyway sorry to go on....I hope you don't think im crazy because im not, just after 7 years its really starting to annoy me that people can get away with speaking to other human beingsthe way they do, there really is no need!!!
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:rolleyes:....Hi there I know this is a quite a strange post but i was wondering if theres anyone out there that can advise me on how i can go about making a website/one page site for me to express my views and possibly list all companies that I speak to with very rude receptionists!!!! I do a lot of telemarketing and basically I am very polite and friendly to receptionists even if they are rude to me but when they think that they own the company and have the right to make decisions on behalf of other employees in the company!
Obviously if they have a no names policy or simply don't take cold calls fair enough but there is no need for them to speak to me/other telemarketers the way they do, thinking that they can answer on behalf of others without even consulting the person im calling to speak to and the tone of voice they speak to me in. maybe if i was pushy and rude back then i expect to be spoken to like that but I am fed up with these snotty receptionists thinking they can get away with it- surely the directors of these companies would'nt be happy if they knew how they spoke to people on the phone- i could be a client for all they know!
I am unsure if this would be illegal for me to do, on an actual published website i mean, obviously if i just keep a record for myself I should imagine its ok but i really want to make a wesite and express my views and also so that other telemarketers can add details to aswel, if they like!!!
Anyway sorry to go on....I hope you don't think im crazy because im not, just after 7 years its really starting to annoy me that people can get away with speaking to other human beingsthe way they do, there really is no need!!!
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Do you think that you are the only cold caller they have had that day? if I were to listen to every cold caller that phoned me i would waste at least half my day every single day. Now if you are prepared to waste my time like that then you must also be prepared for me to be rude to you should you start mumbling, lieing, misquoting, misleading me or just simply come across as so many cold callers do with a cocky arrogant manner.

I hate with a passion unprofessional cold callers and will be rude to them whenever I can, I will use every tactic at my disposal to discourage them from ever contacting me again, send me cash for my time then you can pitch me whatever product you want and I shall remain curtious throughout. I have done business with cold callers in the past, the cold callers I do business with tend to be extremely professional and this comes across within the first few seconds, come across unprofessional and pay the price for that become professional and I will gladly listen to you.

regards
Gary
 
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Hi,

I don't know about the legal side of things, but I really wouldn't bother creating such a website. Unfortunatley some people are rude but they are just doing their jobs and I wouldn't take it to heart. At the end of the day, you will probably never meet these people, they are just on the end of a phone so I would not let their lack of manners get to you. I'm sure your time would be better spent either looking for different approaches to get through or targeting other customers.
 
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Of course, i understand what you mean about the fact they may get several calls a day but still there is no need to be rude with it, they're job is to be polite and represent the company. I am always very polite and professional on the telephone and do, most of the time get passed through to the correct person but it is just those that think they can speak to you rudely when there is no reason, thats what annoys me. I do understand what you mean also with arrogant cold callers that ask to speak to "Mr Smith" and if they don't get put through they think that they deserve an explanation and that they are more important than them that yes, is unprofessional. I don't understand why telemarketers act like this sometimes because it gets you nowhere and they should expect to be spoken to in the same manner as they speak to them. So i do understand your view aswel.
 
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Do you think that you are the only cold caller they have had that day? if I were to listen to every cold caller that phoned me i would waste at least half my day every single day. Now if you are prepared to waste my time like that then you must also be prepared for me to be rude to you should you start mumbling, lieing, misquoting, misleading me or just simply come across as so many cold callers do with a cocky arrogant manner.

Surely this begs the question how are they wasting our time - and more to the point, how effective we are in dealing with cold callers?

If you don't politely, but firmly, state that you are not interested in their service early on, they'll take the window of opportunity to sell you their service / product - and that's when it can get nasty!

If the caller should fail to effectively tell you what they are selling within the first words of what they're saying, then yes, they may not be the most efficient at their job. This doesn't mean you can lament them or be rude to them. You simply ask them what they are selling, and then if it's of interest, ask them to tell you more, or if it's not of interest, tell them it's not of interest, get them to call you back in the future if it's something you'll consider later on, or just say that you don't wish for them to call you back again, but thank them for their time.

At most, I'd expect the above to take one or two minutes of my time. It's very little, in reality.

Basically, a little bit of professional courtesy goes a long way, and I completely agree with the OP - there is no need for people to be rude to cold callers.

If the cold caller is polite - be polite back. If the company policy is not to accept cold callers, or the service they are selling / providing is of no use, simply state this once, politely but firmly, and that is the end of the conversation. If the cold caller, at this point, is persistent, you simply repeat the above, and put the phone down. Yes, putting the phone down is rude, but it ensures you don't say anything rude to them, and it's a quick, clean way to terminate the call. You've given them the chance to say thank you and hang up, but they haven't, and it saves a lot of time for you.

If the cold caller is rude - two wrongs don't make a right! Being rude back solves nothing. Simply state the company policy on cold calling e.g. we don't do business with cold callers, but thank you - and simply put the phone down.

As I said, putting the phone down on a cold caller is rude in itself - but it's a last resort. If they are persistent and won't end the call naturally, you can do this e.g. thank you for calling, but we are not interested in your service, good bye (put the phone down).

I hate with a passion unprofessional cold callers and will be rude to them whenever I can, I will use every tactic at my disposal to discourage them from ever contacting me again, send me cash for my time then you can pitch me whatever product you want and I shall remain curtious throughout. I have done business with cold callers in the past, the cold callers I do business with tend to be extremely professional and this comes across within the first few seconds, come across unprofessional and pay the price for that become professional and I will gladly listen to you.

regards
Gary

Absolutely agree with you here. The professional cold callers do succeed, because many of us will do business with them - there is that rare time when what they phone about is of relevence to us, and it might even be a good product or service!
 
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I am one of these rude people, I used to get these about 6 times a week, and they could not take no for an answer in the end I just started to eb rude to them so the conversation ended there. Since not being in the Yellow Pages and having all my business phones on the TPS this problem has thankfully ended.

I just say firmly but politely "I am not interested, good bye". What really gets my back up is people try to sell me websites, if you do some #';[]=-! research they wil find that is one of my areas of work!
 
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Of course, i understand what you mean about the fact they may get several calls a day but still there is no need to be rude with it, they're job is to be polite and represent the company. I am always very polite and professional on the telephone and do, most of the time get passed through to the correct person but it is just those that think they can speak to you rudely when there is no reason, thats what annoys me. I do understand what you mean also with arrogant cold callers that ask to speak to "Mr Smith" and if they don't get put through they think that they deserve an explanation and that they are more important than them that yes, is unprofessional. I don't understand why telemarketers act like this sometimes because it gets you nowhere and they should expect to be spoken to in the same manner as they speak to them. So i do understand your view aswel.

No matter how many calls we get from telemarketers, I am still polite to them because they are human beings. Having had a brief stint in telesales myself (during my teens), I understand that I am just a name & number that has come up on their screen; a potential lead and sometimes they only get paid if I "bite" (for those cruel companies that don't pay basic). So, I just let them know that we are not interested & to please remove my name from their list (duration of call : less than 10 seconds). It's just basic courtesy, really...
 
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Cold calls can be annoying but so longs they listen and don't try keep you on when you have said no, then I have no problem. I have had some great deals and products pitched at me from a cold call. There's just no need for rudeness. How hard is it to listen for 30 seconds and politely decline. Afterall, they are just are just trying to make a living like the rest of us. I am not in support for cold callers or anything but I think it is a tough job and they deserve at least a polite "no thank you".
 
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Poor you to be honestly and professionally working in a sector where in the main callers are time wasters.

I think it is a bit like road rage. It is easy to be rude to other drivers when you don't know them and will never meet them, unless they stop and get out of the car - then you are trouble.

Cold callers give me road rage equivalent, but just lately I have decided to force myself to smile at every driver I happen to have interaction with and it's making me feel good. Perhaps I'll do the same with cold callers now.
 
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Cold calls can be annoying but so longs they listen and don't try keep you on when you have said no, then I have no problem. I have had some great deals and products pitched at me from a cold call. There's just no need for rudeness. How hard is it to listen for 30 seconds and politely decline. Afterall, they are just are just trying to make a living like the rest of us. I am not in support for cold callers or anything but I think it is a tough job and they deserve at least a polite "no thank you".

The problem is in quiet times when the bank is breathing down your neck, you have bills to pay and the phone rings you think yes a job! Then you answer it after 15 seconds you really they are trying to sell you advertising space in a magazine that dosn't exist I get very angry.
 
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A firm but polite "sorry we are not interested" does the trick 9 times out of 10
 
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The problem is in quiet times when the bank is breathing down your neck, you have bills to pay and the phone rings you think yes a job! Then you answer it after 15 seconds you really they are trying to sell you advertising space in a magazine that dosn't exist I get very angry.

Very true. You're an exception and have more right than most to be rude.
 
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But where does getting angry or getting phone "road rage" actually get you? Does it make you feel amazing? Does it solve the situation in the best, most efficient way possible? Think of all that time and energy you're expending being het up about a cold caller, when you could have quickly dismissed them when you realise their service or product isn't what you are looking for, and could already be cracking on with the next bit of that important project or sale.

If you met these people face to face, would you be so rude to them?

I apply the same rules as I would when conducting communication by email: "would I say this to the person face to face?". If not, then I wouldn't say it by email, and I certainly wouldn't say it over a phone! It's all to easy to make a quick quip or rude remark in an email, only to regret it later. In a phone call, easier still because it's "live", and you don't always have time to think about what you're saying.

Sure, we have to let our anger out in some way - and it's all to easy to do this to a faceless person on the end of a phone, who perhaps got their research wrong and are trying to sell a service you already offer. But seriously guys, come on - what does being rude achieve? How would you like it if I, as a customer, phone you up and started *****ing on, being totally rude because your company screwed up on a tiny little thing to do with my purchase / service?

Yes, these calls can be annoying - and yes, when they get their research or facts wrong, it's annoying moreso. Just be polite, smile, tell them such, and leave it at that.
 
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Actually there is one thing worse - the ones who call you at home. There is NEVER a good time for someone to offer me a free kitchen.

Thinking about it few types of advertising are so intrusive as those who make you pick up the phone and talk to you without being invited to. At least on telly you can make a cup of tea.

Edit to say to N9 that if you read my post you would see that I have given up road rage and being rude to callers.
 
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I am rarely rude to them, only I am only rude to them if they start making sarcastic comments, I have had "don't you want to get rich!".

And those who say would you be rude to them face to face, yes I would I am. If people down Market Street keep pestering me about market reserarch there is only so much you can take before you flip.
 
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Actually there is one thing worse - the ones who call you at home. There is NEVER a good time for someone to offer me a free kitchen.

Thinking about it few types of advertising are so intrusive as those who make you pick up the phone and talk to you without being invited to. At least on telly you can make a cup of tea.

Edit to say to N9 that if you read my post you would see that I have given up road rage and being rude to callers.

Sure - it wasn't a dig at you or anything, so sorry if it came across like that! - but it seems to be the general theme that we can easily get angry and het up by it all, but do we really need to? The point I was trying to get across was that being angry about it doesn't solve a lot.

I think cold calling to a home is different, in work I don't mind receiving these calls, but at home, they do indeed feel more intrusive. But again, I'm just polite, and 99 times out of 100, the same person / company never calls me again.
 
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I am rarely rude to them, only I am only rude to them if they start making sarcastic comments, I have had "don't you want to get rich!".

And those who say would you be rude to them face to face, yes I would I am. If people down Market Street keep pestering me about market reserarch there is only so much you can take before you flip.

As I said, if they're rude or sarcastic to you, take the higher ground! Be polite but firm, say you don't want their service or product, good bye, and hang up.

With market researchers - again, they're just doing their job! If they ask have you got time, I simply say sorry, but I don't, and walk on.

I don't get angry, I don't need to be rude, and I don't waste time and energy!
 
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I am always polite at first too, but I start to get annoyed when sometimes they have so many ofthem you just can't move. Charity pests always seem to pick their worst moments, when I am literely upset because my finances are so bad you get tramps asking for money.

But as I said before thanks to the TPS cold calling is no longer a problem for me :).
 
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I cold call as part of my business. I am always polite and honest about why I am calling, and so people are rarely rude when I ask for their help. If people are rude, then I feel that it is their problem. I know that I have not been pushy or done anything wrong, so I figure that they must have some kind of personality disorder to make them behave in such a manner. If you are cold calling you should be able to accept rejection as part of the job and not get hung up about it. Just put it down to bad manners and move on. Life is to short to start such a campaign as naming and shaming, it wouldn't work anyway.
 
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oops sorry didn't mean to start anything but at least i can get some idea of how you feel about cold callers. I am not rude what so ever to those that are rude to me on the phone nor do i push if i recognize theyre not interested or simply dont require the service- its a waste of time and effort for me and for the other person!! I don't quite understand myself why telemarketers push and push and annoy people either as its such a waste of time.
 
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In my humble opinion, cold calling is the same as spamming. If your phone number/email is in the public domain then there will always be someone who will take advantage of that information.

If I have registered an interest in a product or agreed to receive information about products related to something I have purchased then I am happy to accept cold calls and spend time listening to the caller.

If, however it is a purely 'cold call' then rather than getting angry, I simply say "no thank you, but can I interest YOU in one of my products that we just happen to be doing a very good deal on at the moment".
 
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Life is to short to start such a campaign as naming and shaming, it wouldn't work anyway.

Personally I think that people would actually start competing with each other to be come top of the list.

One of the facts of life is that we tend to generalise a lot due to the fact it is usually the easiest way forward, Telemarketers and telesales people have sadly all been tarnished with the same brush. Over the years due to unscrupulous tactics they have used in the past to speak to certain people, they have all been tarnished. If it was only the minority who use these tactics or if it was only the minority who mislead people, or if it was only the minority who were cocky and arrogant then I am sure there would be no problem but the reality is that it is a large majority who fall into these catagories, and whilst this is the case i feel that more and more people will become more resentful of telesales etc.

A few have mentioned that a firm but polite no would usually be enough for the call to end, If any sales person in the world accepted the first no as being the final answer then they would would be unemployed in a very short space of time. The true professional can handle objections without being confrontational, sadly the industry has (in my opinion) over 90% unprofessional people calling. That is where the problem lays. Blaming the person who answers the phone is just being in denial of the problem, as I stated earlier if a true professional phones me up I will always give them the time, if someone who is unprofessional calls me then beware.

Regards
Gary
 
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If you read this thread

http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=77792

you'll see that there is an enormous gap in the perception of cold calls between those who are paid to make them and those who are obliged to receive them.

The callers believe that they have a RIGHT to call and talk to anyone they have on their list but the called generally regard this as an intrusion and a waste of time.

The good ones get this and use proper lists and professional methods; the bad ones complain.

At home, I'm on the TPS list so I know any calls I get are from the second type of cold caller, over time I have found that the simplest method is just to hang up without comment.
 
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Personally I think that people would actually start competing with each other to be come top of the list.

I'd give my permission to go on the list. Whilst I'm not rude to people who aren't pushy or rude (dispite the fact of being TPS registered), it may put cold callers off calling me.
 
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The Gatekeeper as we reffer to them is a person tasked with the job of answering and siffting through calls to the main people. A good gatekeeper will field 30 - 100 calls a day and get rid of the sales rep at the door.
Many tele sales people mis the important sales steps these days be pre armed find out who you need to speak to. In many cases I telephone a list a week before asking for the name of the person responsible for buying so I can forward our brochure and information, this breaks down the first barrier then I try to find as much info from the other person as possible, how big the firm, their market place, the buyers info all by using charm and guile not blunt force as many who phone me do. When you call a week later you should be pre armed with the name of the gate keeper and details of the person you need to speak to, the its 'hello is David in?' sounding like a long lost friend.
It is an art form Tele sales and there is a way to conduct yourself and just like cold calling you have to use all the dodges in the book.
 
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If you read this thread

http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=77792


The callers believe that they have a RIGHT to call and talk to anyone they have on their list but the called generally regard this as an intrusion and a waste of time.
You have expressed this view in the thread that you linked to and I really cant for the life of me see that anyone has stated or hinted that think that they have a right to be put through. Just wondered where you are reading the things that lead you to this conclusion.
 
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You have expressed this view in the thread that you linked to and I really cant for the life of me see that anyone has stated or hinted that think that they have a right to be put through. Just wondered where you are reading the things that lead you to this conclusion.

Well you could start with this:

cjd ... that massive chip has sprouted into a tree. Your assumptions are about as accurate as some of your postings. You should endeavour to read postings before replying, that way you may learn something. Naturally of course you sell your product to people you know personally and probably knew from birth and of course the product you sell is manufactured by you from raw materials grown in this country...................do me favour and live in the 21st Century

But less amusingly, telesales people must feel that they have a right to call someone they've never met and try to sell them something - by definition. Hardly worth saying really.

What is more surprising is that they get really irritated when the people who are called by them - having weedled their way around the various obsticles put in their path by the people who do not wish to be called - give them a rude response.

Surely they must understand that if a large proportion of their calls will result in a rude response that their right to call them is at least somewhat questionable? (If legal).

Of course, this is not all callers and not all callees.
 
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cjd, although your above quote is a personal attack on you, I still haven't seen anyone indicating that they think that it is their right to be put through. Of course it is a legitimate and legal right of anyone to call anyone else, and I agree that it is the right of the person called to be rude if they so wish.
 
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cjd, although your above quote is a personal attack on you,

Oh that's fine, I enjoy it -. Ad hominem is generally a sign that the argument is won.

The entire thread contains the underlying assumption that it's ok to call someone out of the blue and attempt to sell them something despite the fact that the 'someone' has erected barriers to prevent the call.

The caller must therefore, believe that they have a right to defeat their defenses and get to talk to them anyway.

As a reminder, the thread is called

"COLD CALLING -Your best method to get past the receptionist ???"

Most of the responses are about how you can do that. Quite a few are prepared to lie to get past the 'gatekeeper' and a few others think it is wrong (immoral and hypocritical) to attempt to avoid the calls.

My only purpose here is to point out the difference in perceptions between the caller and the callee - for some reason a lot of telesales people seem to need to feel that their calls are legitimate and welcome whilst those called mostly think the opposite.

I am genuinely surprised that anyone could find this controversial.
 
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Reading between the lines of the OP, it looks like this is what she's getting - but she doesn't accept that the person answering the phone has the authority to say "we are not interested" on behalf of the person she is trying to get put through to.

That's my reading of it, too.

Poor workman, tools, blames, assemble sentence from...

Steve
 
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I absolutely hate cold callers, but I'm never rude to them until they ignore it
when I say I'm not interested.
 
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cjd, although your above quote is a personal attack on you, I still haven't seen anyone indicating that they think that it is their right to be put through. Of course it is a legitimate and legal right of anyone to call anyone else, and I agree that it is the right of the person called to be rude if they so wish.


Apart from the slight matter of TPS of course. We are signed up for that and we still get regular calls from people who are either too ignorant or to lazy to check. Or think that it's their legal and legitimate right to call anyone.

And do they apologise when this is pointed out to them? No they don't.

The advantage of this is that I'm extremely polite to them, show an interest in their company, get their name and contact details, so they think that things are going swimmingly.

Then I tell them that I'm going to report them to TPS. Recently decided to do this every single time, no exceptions.

This problem is getting worse. I have no problem with people writing to me with details of a new product. I can look at it and make an immediate decision to bin it at once or keep it to follow up later, when it's convenient for me.

Telemarketing is intrusive, and made at times that are convenient for the marketer not for me. In the past I've been polite initially, but people who don't listen or who imply that I'm thick for not buying their wonderful product soon get the sharp end of my tongue. Arrogant gits.
 
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cjd, although your above quote is a personal attack on you, I still haven't seen anyone indicating that they think that it is their right to be put through. Of course it is a legitimate and legal right of anyone to call anyone else, and I agree that it is the right of the person called to be rude if they so wish.

90% of the cold callers who call me are thieves.
 
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at least everyone gets to express their views on cold callers :) Sorry if some people think that telemarketers are annoying and yes i can totally understand your frustration- sometimes BUT a lot of the time i get into good conversations with people and they are glad that I called because i am polite and nice to people on the phone and try to have a laugh with them aswel not just sell them something. I also get the hint if someones not interested and will offer them other alternatives maybe that could benefit them but if then no I will happily leave them alone and some people have even said to me that its nice to have a happy smiley person to speak to even if theyre not interested!!!! Maybe this is just in my case i know obviously some others aren't as nice but just to let you know were not all bad :D
 
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I mean if there is an alternative in the service not exactly the same as what im offering, i.e i have worked for a security firm and a lot of the time if their cctv isn't being reviewed or updated i say we also have access control for the doors etc and a lot of the time this was successful :D .. I don't mean by offer them alternatives like most sales men do, i.e...but sir/madam we have this and that this at an amazing cost of only £££ because honestly I dont know how these kind of telemarketers get anywhere!!!
 
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Georgina

Don't let it get you down :) At least you are getting a straight no rather than the run around with requests for information or endless call backs!... or even being put on hold or transferred to ext 166 or whatever it is :) Just shrug it off and accept that you will get a percentage of rudeness in just the same way that you will get a percentage of success. For me the rude receptionist brigade are only around 1% compared with success of around 50% varying by campaign obviously but the point is that the successes more than outweigh the negatives.

I too would say that "we are not all bad" but agree with the sentiments that cold callers ignoring TPS are making our jobs much harder as we are getting the brunt of their frustration.

I generally prefer to source my own data for calling and do research and add to the data before calling to reduce the risk of rudeness where I genuinely feel that I have a proposition worth listening to. I make an effort to make the call as personable and as specific to that business and industry wherever possible. I am upfront that it is a sales call and am happy to call back at a more convenient time.

To address the points that CJD raises I would not say that I feel that I have a "right" to talk to people but I would say that if companies have not put their number on the TPS then they are open to invitations and they can accept or decline that invitation without resorting to rudeness.

I also find it a tad amusing that some companies who are rude to telesales & telemarketers are also those companies who use our services as outsourced or freelance partners when they want to increase sales just like a lot of other businesses or they already have their own team doing the same.

I also wouldn't bother with the hall of shame for rude receptionists as it would more likely be more hassle than it is worth and can be perceived as being a poor reflection on you if people think that the rudeness was justified.
 
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yep i know what you mean re the percentage of rude receptionists compared to the sales gained!! i dont mind rude receptionists to some extent and it makes me laugh a lot of the time but today i had a particularly bad day whereas tomorrow maybe fine!!!!lol :D
 
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at least everyone gets to express their views on cold callers :) Sorry if some people think that telemarketers are annoying and yes i can totally understand your frustration- sometimes BUT a lot of the time i get into good conversations with people and they are glad that I called because i am polite and nice to people on the phone and try to have a laugh with them aswel not just sell them something. I also get the hint if someones not interested and will offer them other alternatives maybe that could benefit them but if then no I will happily leave them alone and some people have even said to me that its nice to have a happy smiley person to speak to even if theyre not interested!!!! Maybe this is just in my case i know obviously some others aren't as nice but just to let you know were not all bad :D

It's best just tell them in the first sentence that "This is a speculative call is that OK?

It's actually very rare when a receptionist says no, and quite often it gets a laugh, which is also an icebreaker. It's also the way you speak to people, tone of voice etc. If there is a no name policy, I ask if "I find out the name from the internet is it ok to call back and ask to be put through?". Again 80% say no problem.

I have had rudeness twice in 5 years, one of them from a Canadian prospect. 5 minutes later he rang back to apologise, and we got into a very interesting discussion about the product.

I think it's very important not to get too emotional and not to take rejection personally also
 
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