Can Mancini manage?

[hmmm]

Okkkk then. So i guess he wasn't playing golf and didn't post the pictures on Twitter and he didn't refuse to play at Bayern...okkk..sure..he must of been playing all along then and nobody noticed :|

so what if he was playing golf or posing for pics with fans?
i dont see your point.
i never said he didnt refuse to play against bayern.what i said was ,him playing golf and having pictures taken is irrelevant .it has nothing to do with anything

 

[matt seymour]

dalglish to go
we have won one trophy this season with another one on the way.
our league position is not the best but next year we win all three and the euro league.
its his first season and we will have 2 thats 2 trophies are you mad?

You've won a Mickey Mouse trophy that no other Premiership club gives a toss about and there is no way you will win any more. Let's face it, you barely scraped past a championship side to win it.

That Liverpool side is the worst I've seen in years and he has spent an absolutely obscene amount to achieve total mediocrity.

Liverpool won't get anywhere near the top four under Dalglish all the time the likes of Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd and now Spurs are going as they are. They all have far better managers and are much more attractive clubs to play for. Liverpool have well and truly had their day.

 

[hmmm]

You've won a Mickey Mouse trophy that no other Premiership club gives a toss about and there is no way you will win any more. Let's face it, you barely scraped past a championship side to win it.

That Liverpool side is the worst I've seen in years and he has spent an absolutely obscene amount to achieve total mediocrity.

Liverpool won't get anywhere near the top four under Dalglish all the time the likes of Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd and now Spurs are going as they are. They all have far better managers and are much more attractive clubs to play for. Liverpool have well and truly had their day.

zzzzzzzzzzzzz
arsenal lost to birmingham with there full team out.so i guess they wanted to win it. man city wanted to win it with there full team out against us and man u .
its not a mickey mouse cup.it was only portrayed a mickey cup because of the goons at man u .they even tried to make the fa cup the same by not playing init.putting a world club tourny first..naughty boys.
its only a micky cup if you dont win it.
liverpool having had there day is speculation and not fact.
football runs in cycles just like the world.
we have young blood and 2 cups (hopefully)in the first season is a good return im sure venger boy, mancini , redknapp,and carlos would have love one.we might include fergie in that lot yet

 

[matt seymour]

zzzzzzzzzzzzz
arsenal lost to birmingham with there full team out.so i guess they wanted to win it. man city wanted to win it with there full team out against us and man u .
its not a mickey mouse cup.it was only portrayed a mickey cup because of the goons at man u .they even tried to make the fa cup the same by not playing init.putting a world club tourny first..naughty boys.
its only a micky cup if you dont win it.
liverpool having had there day is speculation and not fact.
football runs in cycles just like the world.
we have young blood and 2 cups (hopefully)in the first season is a good return im sure venger boy, mancini , redknapp,and carlos would have love one.we might include fergie in that lot yet

Arsenal only put a full team out when it came to the final. They and every other premiership team play their kids for the rest of the tournament. It's a Mickey Mouse trophy and always will be.

Twenty odd years without a league title or so much as a serious challenge is a pretty long cycle! It's no coincidence that Liverpool have got nowhere near a league title since the premiership began. The fact is that the best players in the world don't want to play for Liverpool - they want to be in Manchester or London.

Your young blood is pretty damn awful if you ask me and not one of them would get anywhere the Man Utd, Arsenal, Man City or Chelsea team.

The game has changed so much since Liverpool were a real force.

 

[hmmm]

how long did it take man u to win the league with fergie since the last time?
they play the younger ones against lower league teams.
the league is 92 teams not just the top four.
just because four teams deem it below them is footy snobbery
i like it when they play the young players as it means they will lose .


nobody wants to be in manchester.stop telling pork pies

 

[hmmm]

All of you are talking absolute crap. You obviously do not have the experience or knowledge that comes with supporting a great team like I do.

COME ON YOU EAGLES

huh? im terry venables.

 

[matt seymour]

how long did it take man u to win the league with fergie since the last time?
they play the younger ones against lower league teams.
the league is 92 teams not just the top four.
just because four teams deem it below them is footy snobbery
i like it when they play the young players as it means they will lose .


nobody wants to be in manchester.stop telling pork pies

Liverpool will NEVER win the league with Dalglish. Not a chance in hell and the fact that you mention him in the same sentence as managers like Ferguson or Wenger is hilarious.

Seriously, look at your team, it's rubbish. Over £100 million spent on some truly awful players and you think Dalglish knows what he's doing? You've got to be kidding me. You are where you deserve to be in the league because that is all that team is capable of.

No one is afraid of Liverpool anymore. Anfield doesn't hold the same fear for teams as it used to. Even when my little Pompey were in the prem we took plenty of points off you.

The big boys don't care about the Skona Lager Cup or whatever it is called these days. It's the premiership and champions league they want. Even the FA Cup is becoming less important in the modern game. Fair play if Liverpool manage to win it, but with Chelsea and Spurs still in it I don't like your chances much and that's if you get past Everton.

 

[FreelanceSoftwareDeveloper]

Mancini has bought players, Fergie has shown that money alone can't make a team.

Even as a Liverpool fan you can't deny what Sir Porridge *** has achieved although in King Kev style I'D LOVE IT IF MAN CITY BEAT THEM!!!

Dalglish, no, he isn't a premiership winning manager.

What I don't understand is people saying Mourinho is considering the City job, surely he is waiting the get the United job as he is one of 2 managers who are in with a shout and Guardiola is going to leave Barca.

 

[matt seymour]

Mancini has bought players, Fergie has shown that money alone can't make a team.

Even as a Liverpool fan you can't deny what Sir Porridge *** has achieved although in King Kev style I'D LOVE IT IF MAN CITY BEAT THEM!!!

Dalglish, no, he isn't a premiership winning manager.

What I don't understand is people saying Mourinho is considering the City job, surely he is waiting the get the United job as he is one of 2 managers who are in with a shout and Guardiola is going to leave Barca.

Yes, it is with some reluctance that I lavish praise upon a Manchester United manager, but he leaves us little choice unfortunately. The guy is about as good a manager as you will ever see.

I honestly don't think Dalglish is even a top four manager.

I can see Mourinho going to Man City. Partly because of the money on offer and also because I think he'd quite like to go head to head with Ferguson again. City have been in United's shadow for so long and I think Mourinho's ego would quite like the idea of the being the man to change that.

Next season should be quite interesting. If Arsenal buy a couple more decent players and make a better start they could be in the mix themselves and I fully expect Chelsea to be a much improved side too.

 

[matt seymour]

Yeah exactly look what he done for us

Mr. Venables is not exactly very popular down in Pompey either. Crooked b*stard.

 

[FreelanceSoftwareDeveloper]

Yes, it is with some reluctance that I lavish praise upon a Manchester United manager, but he leaves us little choice unfortunately. The guy is about as good a manager as you will ever see.

I honestly don't think Dalglish is even a top four manager.

I can see Mourinho going to Man City. Partly because of the money on offer and also because I think he'd quite like to go head to head with Ferguson again. City have been in United's shadow for so long and I think Mourinho's ego would quite like the idea of the being the man to change that.

Next season should be quite interesting. If Arsenal buy a couple more decent players and make a better start they could be in the mix themselves and I fully expect Chelsea to be a much improved side too.

Fergie is on the verge of retirement so that would give him maybe 1-2 seasons to 'prove' he can beat Fergie, but with Mancini on the verge of being sacked for finishing second, best position in 60 years, do you really look at City as being a 'team' that can beat United however much money you throw at it.

Long term success with United must be the way to create his 'legacy'.

 

[hmmm]

.

Seriously, look at your team, it's rubbish. Over £100 million spent on some truly awful players and you think Dalglish knows what he's doing? You've got to be kidding me. You are where you deserve to be in the league because that is all that team is capable of.

rubbish?
i think thats the wrong word.
you may as well say anyone that isnt in the top 4 or 5 are rubbish and may as well not be playing. lets just have one league with 5 teams in.
rubbish hahahha.
even birmingham arent rubbish nor is sheffield wednesday.
these are all good teams some better than others.there are only 3 cups to play for unless your in europe then there is four.
the mind set these days is off the mark.
to win 1 cup is an achievement who ever wins it.
to get promoted is also an achievement.these things dont come very regular .so as a football player you want these things .you want wembley you want that buzz of promotion,to play as high as you possibly can.
then we have then clueless fan that has no idea what its like to be a footballer and can only dream . telling players that there rubbish if the dont win anything when the winning of silver is rare .bonkers fans.
its the same with england .fans slag them off when in reality we have been unlucky in competitions. france pens,germany pens twice,argentina pens,portugal pens,1982 didnt lose a game .lost on goal difference.these are hardly failures in a huge world of many players and teams .

 

[Esk247]

same with england .fans slag them off when in reality we have been unlucky in competitions. france pens,germany pens twice,argentina pens,portugal pens,1982 didnt lose a game .lost on goal difference.these are hardly failures in a huge world of many players and teams .

Come on, we all know England were atrocious in 2010 and failed to qualify for Euro 2008 thanks to the Wally with the Brolly.

They were more watchable under Sven. At least you felt we might actually reach a semi final.

We almost beat France in 2004 but for Emile Heskey fouling on the edge of the box and Zidane scoring the equaliser from a free kick. Then Henry was brought down in the box and we lost 2-1. I'll never forget that frenchman waving his cock(erel) above his head.

The thing with England is, they are always rated a top ten team in the UEFA rankings but rarely beat any team in the top 15. We did well against Spain, that was good, 1 nil and we beat the Champions. Get in!

 

[matt seymour]

rubbish?
i think thats the wrong word.
you may as well say anyone that isnt in the top 4 or 5 are rubbish and may as well not be playing. lets just have one league with 5 teams in.
rubbish hahahha.
even birmingham arent rubbish nor is sheffield wednesday.
these are all good teams some better than others.there are only 3 cups to play for unless your in europe then there is four.
the mind set these days is off the mark.
to win 1 cup is an achievement who ever wins it.
to get promoted is also an achievement.these things dont come very regular .so as a football player you want these things .you want wembley you want that buzz of promotion,to play as high as you possibly can.
then we have then clueless fan that has no idea what its like to be a footballer and can only dream . telling players that there rubbish if the dont win anything when the winning of silver is rare .bonkers fans.
its the same with england .fans slag them off when in reality we have been unlucky in competitions. france pens,germany pens twice,argentina pens,portugal pens,1982 didnt lose a game .lost on goal difference.these are hardly failures in a huge world of many players and teams .

Ok, let's put it another way. Liverpool's team is rubbish compared to the teams they are supposed to be competing with for a place in the top four. Man Utd, Arsenal, Spurs, Man City and Chelsea all have vastly superior squads to liverpool and better managers. Even Newcastle are a better side at the moment.

You can big up the Carling Cup all you like, but everyone knows it's a second rate trophy that the premiership big guns couldn't care less about. The fact that a Liverpool fan is happy with winning that coupled with an awful season in the league shows just how far Liverpool have slumped.

To be honest, I am almost past caring about England. Not because they constantly fail to deliver, but because the majority of the players in the team are idiots. John Terry, Ashley Cole, Wayne Rooney etc etc. All overrated, overpaid idiots who walk around thinking they are Maradona or Pele and then play like a drain when it comes to the big stage. We used to have a team with likeable characters who would give everything, but not anymore.

 

[matt seymour]

Fergie is on the verge of retirement so that would give him maybe 1-2 seasons to 'prove' he can beat Fergie, but with Mancini on the verge of being sacked for finishing second, best position in 60 years, do you really look at City as being a 'team' that can beat United however much money you throw at it.

Long term success with United must be the way to create his 'legacy'.

We will have to wait and see, but I wouldn't be even slightly surprised if Mourinho went to City.

As for City not beating Man Utd no matter what money is thrown at it, you only have to look at what Mourinho did at Chelsea. He turned them into champions in his first season and got the better of Ferguson. Now he is about to end Barcelona's dominance in only his second season at Madrid. It's entirely likely that he could beat United to the title in his first season if he went to City.

 

[hmmm]

I think that mourihno will go to crystal palace, 300 quid a week and all you can eat in the canteen

i,d do it for that.
over paid sphincters

 

[hmmm]

We will have to wait and see, but I wouldn't be even slightly surprised if Mourinho went to City.

As for City not beating Man Utd no matter what money is thrown at it, you only have to look at what Mourinho did at Chelsea. He turned them into champions in his first season and got the better of Ferguson. Now he is about to end Barcelona's dominance in only his second season at Madrid. It's entirely likely that he could beat United to the title in his first season if he went to City.

oooow
its not over in spain no more than it is over here.
barcelona play madrid soon just as man u play city.any little slip like last night and it could happen looking at the fixtures,then it will be all change.

 

[Esk247]

As for City not beating Man Utd no matter what money is thrown at it, you only have to look at what Mourinho did at Chelsea. He turned them into champions in his first season and got the better of Ferguson. Now he is about to end Barcelona's dominance in only his second season at Madrid. It's entirely likely that he could beat United to the title in his first season if he went to City.

Mourinho has always had pre-built teams though hasn't he. Chelsea he had Ranieri to thank, he took them to second place in the league in the first year of Abramovich and Mourinho inherited the squad, only making tweaks.

He went to Inter Milan a team that had already won titles under Mancini in 2007 and 2008.

He goes to Real Madrid and realistically they can only finish 2nd or 1st. They have the worlds most expensive player (Ronaldo) who is almost matching Messi for goals.

Very few managers have had the opportunity and skill to build a squad. Perhaps Alan Pardew can do it at Newcastle, that would be good, if they give him time. I just wonder if they finish in 10th next season that he will be deemed a failure.

You could say Redknapp has built a good team at Tottenham but they're not league challengers.

 

[Cornish Steve]

Begins with Andy ends in Carrol

Andy Carroll has played well in the last few games - one of the better players on the team. Yes, his job is to score goals, but he's made quite a few recently. Liverpool's bigger problem remains a heavy dependence on a handful of players (Lucas is an example), new players (Downing, Henderson, Adam) not playing to their full potential, and a number of players who are simply average (Spearing, Shelvey). The youth program is strong, which bodes well for the future, but they are really struggling right now.

Personally, I have a lot of admiration for Roberto Martinez and believe him to be one of the best managers in the league. His team, Wigan, play attractive football with few big names on the team. I've been secretly rooting for them all season and felt bad for them when the refs stole what should have been a victory at Chelsea. If Harry Redknapp does become the England manager, my vote for his replacement at Tottenham is Martinez.

 

[Esk247]

Liverpool should have kept hold of Joe Cole, twinned with Gerrard and Suarez that would make an impressive attack going forward. Liverpool lack a solid and confident midfield.

If they can get it together next season then they should be good to watch, perhaps too many players too soon.

If you look at teams like Barcelona, Man Utd even Chelsea of late. They still have the core players from the previous few campaigns. Drogba, Terry, Cole, Malouda, Essien are all experienced players. Liverpool only have Kuyt and Gerrard, possibly Carragher.

There's even talk of them getting rid of Kuyt which i find mental. He's been dedicated to liverpool since he arrived, high work rate, scores late goals and is never seen on the pish or bad mouthing the team.

 

[matt seymour]

Mourinho has always had pre-built teams though hasn't he. Chelsea he had Ranieri to thank, he took them to second place in the league in the first year of Abramovich and Mourinho inherited the squad, only making tweaks.

He went to Inter Milan a team that had already won titles under Mancini in 2007 and 2008.

He goes to Real Madrid and realistically they can only finish 2nd or 1st. They have the worlds most expensive player (Ronaldo) who is almost matching Messi for goals.

Very few managers have had the opportunity and skill to build a squad. Perhaps Alan Pardew can do it at Newcastle, that would be good, if they give him time. I just wonder if they finish in 10th next season that he will be deemed a failure.

You could say Redknapp has built a good team at Tottenham but they're not league challengers.

Are Man City not a pre-built team then?

But for a loss of form in recent weeks Man City would probably have been lifting the premiership trophy at the end of the season. It wouldn't take much for Mourinho to turn them into champions. At the end of the day, he's won trophies everywhere he's been and his record is remarkable.

Redknapp is very good at putting a team together and I say that reluctantly as he is not a popular man down here in Portsmouth and Southampton. I am not one of those who thinks he will make a great England manager though.

 

[matt seymour]

Andy Carroll has played well in the last few games - one of the better players on the team. Yes, his job is to score goals, but he's made quite a few recently. Liverpool's bigger problem remains a heavy dependence on a handful of players (Lucas is an example), new players (Downing, Henderson, Adam) not playing to their full potential, and a number of players who are simply average (Spearing, Shelvey). The youth program is strong, which bodes well for the future, but they are really struggling right now.

Personally, I have a lot of admiration for Roberto Martinez and believe him to be one of the best managers in the league. His team, Wigan, play attractive football with few big names on the team. I've been secretly rooting for them all season and felt bad for them when the refs stole what should have been a victory at Chelsea. If Harry Redknapp does become the England manager, my vote for his replacement at Tottenham is Martinez.

Andy Carroll... what can I say? A terrible signing by Dalglish along with plenty of others he's made. He's spent over £100 million on some really average players. Let's be honest, if Downing was any good one of the big boys would have snapped him up long before now and the same can be said of most of the his signings.

I agree with you about Martinez. He has worked miracles at Wigan and played some really good football as well. If he had a couple of decent strikers they wouldn't be in relegation trouble. He would definitely be a good shout to replace Redknapp at Spurs.

 

[hmmm]

100 million and done nothing?
we were never going to win the league this year.
carroll is young and will get better.
nothing wrong with suarez hes a good signing so thats the best part of that 100million gone
downing is a good signing so is enrique
like it or not we won a trophy
in the league at times we have been outstanding .also we have been outstanding but not scored.that has cost us dear.
rarely have they been rubbish this season.
no team above us made us look silly.we have just drawn to many games at home.

 

[matt seymour]

100 million and done nothing?
we were never going to win the league this year.
carroll is young and will get better.
nothing wrong with suarez hes a good signing so thats the best part of that 100million gone
downing is a good signing so is enrique
like it or not we won a trophy
in the league at times we have been outstanding .also we have been outstanding but not scored.that has cost us dear.
rarely have they been rubbish this season.
no team above us made us look silly.we have just drawn to many games at home.

Carroll wasn't even one of the top goal scorers in the championship. Signing him for that kind of money was completely insane.

People keep raving on about Suarez, but how many goals has he scored this season?

You won a Mickey Mouse trophy. If Liverpool fans are genuinely happy with that it just goes to show how low the level of expectation is at the club now.

You've drawn so many games because your obscenely expensive strikers don't score any goals and no one is afraid of Liverpool anymore - not even at Anfield. You've only got two truly world class players and one of them is on the verge of retirement.

 

[Gareth2012]

Carroll wasn't even one of the top goal scorers in the championship. Signing him for that kind of money was completely insane.

People keep raving on about Suarez, but how many goals has he scored this season?

You won a Mickey Mouse trophy. If Liverpool fans are genuinely happy with that it just goes to show how low the level of expectation is at the club now.

You've drawn so many games because your obscenely expensive strikers don't score any goals and no one is afraid of Liverpool anymore - not even at Anfield. You've only got two truly world class players and one of them is on the verge of retirement.

Gerrad has been shocking in every game apart from the newcastle game at home! He wasn't even that good when he scored a hat-trick against everton.

 

[Cornish Steve]

Carroll wasn't even one of the top goal scorers in the championship. Signing him for that kind of money was completely insane.

As a business transaction, it was brilliant! Andy Carroll and 15 million pounds for Fernando Torres. You can't just look at the 35 million spent, because that's almost irrelevant.

 

[matt seymour]

As a business transaction, it was brilliant! Andy Carroll and 15 million pounds for Fernando Torres. You can't just look at the 35 million spent, because that's almost irrelevant.

That's not strictly true though.

Dalglish had £50 million from the sale of Torres and spent £35 million of it on a donkey like Carroll. There's no getting away from the fact that Dalglish thinks Andy Carroll is worth £35 million.

No other premiership manager would have paid anywhere near that for Andy Carroll. He's not even worth £10 million.

It's a shocking bit of business no matter what way you look at it.

 

[Esk247]

Andy Carrol - 35 million - 69 appearances and 20 goals since 2010
Javi Hernandez - 10 million - 78 appearances and 32 goals since 2010

Close but Carrol cost 25 million more than Hernandez Just sayin'

Even Michael Owen has managed 17 goals in 52 appearances at Man Utd and he was a free transfer with 2 wonky legs.

 

[Cornish Steve]

Andy Carrol - 35 million - 69 appearances and 20 goals since 2010
Javi Hernandez - 10 million - 78 appearances and 32 goals since 2010

Close but Carrol cost 25 million more than Hernandez Just sayin'

Even Michael Owen has managed 17 goals in 52 appearances at Man Utd and he was a free transfer with 2 wonky legs.

Do you have the stats for Fernando Torres?

 

[Esk247]

Do you have the stats for Fernando Torres?

Dreadful for Torres..i couldn't even bring myself to look.

8 goals in 59 appearances!!! That's a midfielders return.

At Liverpool he scored 81 goals in 142 competitive matches so he was worth 50 million when they bought him. He scored 33 goals in his first liverpool season.

Remember though, when he joined chelsea he had surpassed 300 club appearances and 400 appearances for club and country. That is serious mileage for your legs and body. i think he's physically taking a break.

 

[Esk247]

Compare those stats with Lionel Messi though and it's just sillyness.

Messi 320 games, 241 goals. 61 goals this season in 51 competitive matches. In two seasons he's scored over 110 goals in all competitions. The only player who can match him is Ronaldo with 138 goals since joining Real Madrid. He's only got 52 this season though, 9 short of Messi.

 

[matt seymour]

Do you have the stats for Fernando Torres?

Torres was proven though. He scored an incredible amount of goals at Liverpool.

No one could have predicted just how bad he would be at Chelsea.

Carroll, well, it's a mystery to just about everyone. £35 million? Crazy.

 

[hmmm]

who got the winner? oh carroll did.

torres went pants before he left liverpool.we all knew he was struggling

 

[Esk247]

who got the winner? oh carroll did.

torres went pants before he left liverpool.we all knew he was struggling

Same way as Peter Crouch gets goals though, aim for the tree and try to bounce the ball in the net from his head.

Goals to games ratio is still atrocious. He needs a Tevez style hat trick to prove any value.

Wonder where Tevez will end up this summer? He's already said he hates Manchester.

 

[matt seymour]

who got the winner? oh carroll did.

torres went pants before he left liverpool.we all knew he was struggling

I take it all back.

Andy Carroll is worth every penny of the £35 million now that he has now scored 9 goals in more than a year.

 

[trebor8]

Wonder where Tevez will end up this summer? He's already said he hates Manchester.

He's going to Middlesbrough, they've loads more nicely painted industrial units there.

 

[Cornish Steve]

I take it all back.

Andy Carroll is worth every penny of the £35 million now that he has now scored 9 goals in more than a year.

He is improving. While they awarded MOTM to Luis Suarez, Andy Carroll deserved it. In fact, he's been one of the more effective men on the pitch for the last several games. His work rate is impressive, and he's winning more and more balls. It's a pity we're almost at the end of the season, because he's just now beginning to hit form.

 

[internetspaceships]

He is improving. While they awarded MOTM to Luis Suarez, Andy Carroll deserved it. In fact, he's been one of the more effective men on the pitch for the last several games. His work rate is impressive, and he's winning more and more balls. It's a pity we're almost at the end of the season, because he's just now beginning to hit form.

Yeah dream on.

Great comparison between a donkey and a proven racist. Err how do you justify Suarez still playing after that?

I mean let's face it, shouldn't he be out for life given the Leagues official stance on racism? No - money talks.

 

[matt seymour]

He is improving. While they awarded MOTM to Luis Suarez, Andy Carroll deserved it. In fact, he's been one of the more effective men on the pitch for the last several games. His work rate is impressive, and he's winning more and more balls. It's a pity we're almost at the end of the season, because he's just now beginning to hit form.

At £35 million, he shouldn't need to "improve."

Face it, he's a donkey and Liverpool paid £35 million for a striker that doesn't score goals.

As for Suarez, well, you know the score with him.

 

1) We sold a striker for £55m who also 'isnt scoring goals' to buy 2 strikers.

2) Ban Suarez forever? Seems a bit harsh....so why is John Terry still playing away happily? Suarez made a mistake, he blames it (rightly or wrongly) on his lack of understanding of the use of a word, etc....he got a lengthy unheard of ban, and paid his dues.....let's see if he has learnt maybe before banning him forever.

3) Carroll was way over-inflated, but all English-born players are (the European rules etc will always cause this), but we got a very over-inflated price on selling Torres so thought we got a reasonable deal at the time. He's not worth £35m, by any stretch.....but he has the potential to become worth that, if he scores regularly, which I think he can....if our midfield is sorted out. Al English strikers who score a few goals reach scary prices.....look at the amount of money paid out over the years for Crouch, Heskey, etc.

How did the anti-Liverpool stuff get into a thread about Man City? Seems the Man Utd obsession with Liverpool goes deeper than their hatred for City even lol.