Are you a Christian?

[DCE]

Mate can I just ask?........
If you are so concerned about doing gods work and spreading his word, why not go and help the homeless, help deprived children, do some other form of charitable work, instead of sitting on here all day chatting shite. Any five knuckle shuffler can talk crap on here(I do myself) but why not go out and spread his word in a more constructive way

Thanks for advice this and that, bit the Good News of the kingdom must come first I'm afraid.

(Matthew 6:33-34) 33*“Keep on, then, seeking first the kingdom and his righteousness, and all these [other] things will be added to YOU. 34*So, never be anxious about the next day, for the next day will have its own anxieties. Sufficient for each day is its own badness.

 

[Parthelan]

To attain their objectives, such men would resort to a selective use of evidence, emotionally loaded language, misleading half-truths, devious innuendo, and even outright lies.

Just like your leaders, who youve already agreed lied and got it wrong. And these were gods mouthpieces. So, they were lying and their god was lying. You agree with me on this Dick, dont you Dick?

So you agree your leaders are liars and deceivers - most excellent Dick, youre making progress.

Is that not your objective ....Your conscience should be telling you, someone is watching you, and he is.

I told you so many times, but I'll repeat it yet again for you, my objective is to make sure youre not allowed to spout your evil vile cultish diatripes unencumbered without me being there to correct you, lest someone reading your thrash may accidently be misled by your evil cult and have their lives destroyed, like my friend.

150 years - billions of publications - millions of door to door knockers, billions of man hours evangelising, and you have a world wide membership of 7 million cult members.

God is indeed protecting His church and His people from your evil cult.

 

[Parthelan]

Mate can I just ask?........
If you are so concerned about doing gods work and spreading his word, why not go and help the homeless, help deprived children, do some other form of charitable work, instead of sitting on here all day chatting shite. Any five knuckle shuffler can talk crap on here(I do myself) but why not go out and spread his word in a more constructive way?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I posted a link to the jehovahs witnesses application for charitable status in the Uk with the Uk charities commission.

Their medium and ling term objectives were to build kingdom halls and printing thrash.

Not a word about helping the homeless, feeding the poor, clothing the beggar .... all acts commissioned by Christ Himself.

Its well know the jehovahs witnesses look after noone but their own, provided that is, their own keep feeding the cash cow of the elders in brooklyn.

Ask questions and you'll be shunned. Especially if it's where are all the jehovahs witness paedophiles hiding.

 

[DCE]

Honestly, CJD was right.. it's best just to stop feeding DCE.

You can't reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

There is a fundamental difference between DCE and most people in this thread, and it's not the existence of God or what nuances of his will we should obey. It is simply that most of us value the ability to properly and correctly process information and then understand the conclusion we arrive at. DCE, does not.

It is like debating the pro's and cons of national healthcare with someone who doesn't value human life. It is pointless. You will never get an honest debate from him because, despite what he preaches, he doesn't actually comprehend what intellectual honesty is

The book Belief in God and Intellectual Honesty notes that one who possesses “intellectual honesty” is characterized by a “readiness to scrutinize what one believes to be true” and “to pay sufficient attention also to other evidence available.”

Geoff have you studied the Bible, be honest now?

 

[BizGurl]

Their medium and ling term objectives were to build kingdom halls and printing thrash.

What on earth is one of those :|

 

[Parthelan]

What on earth is one of those :|

Oy, stip pocking in my spolink

 

[BizGurl]

Oy, stip pocking in my spolink

Translation 1:
Oi! Stop poking in my link/splif/whatever :|

Translation 2:
Oi! Stop picking faults with my spellings. :|


Close? I'm not too fluent with posh talk.

 

[Parthelan]

Thanks for advice this and that, bit the Good News of the kingdom must come first I'm afraid.

This is a great little exchange with a jehovah witness cult member and a Christian on the subject of charity and what the jehovahs do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RU7gl-iekI

After hurricane katherina, groups like the red cross etc flocked there en masse to help out with food, shelter, medical care etc.

The jehovahs witnesses first job they did - rebuild the kingdom halls

They then tried to look after their own, and only their own. There's also seroius questions to be asked about the money that was raised for the relief;

Profiteering off a disaster is the ultimate in dishonesty. If this is not the case then we would suggest a full financial statement of money received for Katrina and how much was actually spent on the friends to be provided by Jehovah’s Witnesses. This of course is impossible as all members have been instructed to donate to the WWW contribution box marked for general funds so now it is untraceable.
YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHERE THE MONEY WENT….Ever wonder why members are always told to donate to a general fund when a disaster occurs?

Source

 

[Parthelan]

Translation 1:
Oi! Stop poking in my link/splif/whatever :|

You know about the splifs

Gawd damn.....

 

[Parthelan]

Have you noticed how he only stays in here now and doesnt bother with the likes of us(well you lol).

HOW VERY DARE YOU

Why, only yesterday, I put some olbus oil under my nostrils and a medical mask on and mixed with you lot on another thread

 

[yoyoangel]

Dealing with allsorts of people from different parts of the globe ,diifferent religions and cultures makes the modern business world a nice place to be.
I was brought up in a white christian town in Devon where you were not ment to deal with anybody else .I soon shed this small minded and retarded attidude.
I stayed in this one horse town but my dealings with people from differnt countries and faiths has given me the chance to meet and work with lots of different people.

Have time and respect for others and you will always be able to work with them !!

 

[Parthelan]

By the way Tom even a Court of Law has to have at least two, tricky tongue again Tom

Really Dick? So if Im the only witness to a crime, I cant give evidence to the police because that evidence wont be admissable since there wasnt another witness there? Wow.

Here's a quote from Shepherd the Flock - youve heard of that right? It's a book only for your elders/leaders/managers, and not for general use by the cult members: Oh yeah, the date of publication of Shepherd the Flock is 2010 !!!!!!

• There must be two or three eyewitnesse, not just people repeating hearsay; no action can taken if there only one witness. Deut 19: 15; John 8:17.

• If there two or witnesses to the same kind of wrongdoing but each one is witness to a separate incident, the elders can consider their testimony. While such evidence is acceptable to establish guilt, is preferable to have two witnesses to the same occurrence of wrongdoing.

• The testimony of youths may be considered; it is up to the elders to determine whether the testimony has the ring of truth.

39. If the accused denies the accusation, the investigating elders should try to arrange a meeting with him and the accuser together. (Note: If the accusation involves child sexual abuse and the victim is currently a minor, the elders should contact the branch office before arranging a meeting with the child and the alleged abuser.) If the accuser or the accused is unwilling to meet with the elders or if the accused continues to deny the accusation of a single witness and the wrongdoing is not established, the elders will leave matters in Jehovah's hands. (Deut.19:15-17; 1 Tim 5:19, 24, 25; w95 11/1 pp. 28-29) The investigating elders should compose a record, sign it, put it in a sealed envelope, and place it in the congregation’s confidential file. Additional evidence may later come to light to establish matters.​

At least there's something written this time - the earlier handbook for the elders had a blank page for dealing with sex abuse allegations
​

 

[Parthelan]

Its a pity it happens in all organizations

But your cult tries to make itself out to be somehow better than all the ''worldly'' ''pagan'' churches it sets out to criticise, and it's worse.

That evil s.o.b. that's just been done for raping old women, sexual assault and burglary, Delroy Grant, was one of your cult members:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/u...-extend-night-stalker-inquiry-91466-25182220/

In this case the jehovah's witnesses were criticised by the judge and told he hoped their policies have changed. Ha! He needs to have a look at Shepherd the Flock!!!!

Judge Charles Wide QC said: “It is very unfortunate the Jehovah’s Witnesses community dealt with a complaint in 1984 in a wholly inappropriate way, seemingly more concerned with their own reputation than doing justice, but I acknowledge they were very different times.
“I sincerely hope their processes have been changed radically since then. It is because of their involvement that these matters were not reported.

And this guy was on the rampage for more than 40 years, protected by the policies that are still in place today in the jehovah's witnesses.

A TWISTED Jehovah's Witness raped and molested young girls who followed the faith - telling them they would betray their religion if they talked.
Vile George Cockerill, 78, carried out his depraved attacks over more than 40 YEARS.
One of his victims was just ten when he first targeted her. Another was 12 and a third 15. He made one devoted follower PRAY after attacking her.
Another was so terrified she asked church elders for help. But when no action was taken she quit the faith in disgust.
Ex-butcher Cockerill was finally nailed when his first victim told her doctor. He was behind bars yesterday after admitting 32 offences including 19 rapes and four counts of sexual activity with a child.

You see Dick, DCE, your cult is every bit as bad as mainstream christian churches, but they at least have learned, and are capable of learning from past mistakes. It is vitial that all organisations learn the lessons of how to reduce and eliminate the opportunities for paedophiles and ephebophiles operating in their midsts. Other churhces, schools etc have learned. Your cult has learned nothing except to carry on protecting itself.

As evidenced by your own elders/leaders handbook.

 

[DCE]

Really Dick? So if Im the only witness to a crime, I cant give evidence to the police because that evidence wont be admissable since there wasnt another witness there?

What Tom if two people fell out, and one of them decided to cause the other, as much trouble as possible, by making false accusations against, the other person, what would the best policy be, by the police or any other authority.

The first thing they do, is to establish the facts first, and find out, whether there are other witnesses to substantiate, whether the accusations, of the other person's claims, are true, sensible thing to do Tom? or not?

Many of people have tricky tongues today, as you are well aware of Tom, so one has to be very cautious, when faced with many situations, which is, the most prudent course of action to take, would you not agree Tom?

How would you feel, if someone falsely accused you, of something, because they had a vendetta against you, it happens all the time to innocent people Tom.

We live in a very corrupt world Tom, so you have to make sure, we get all the facts first, in that way, everyone is protected against, false accusations being levelled at them, and acted upon, without proper investigation.

It's good to know the truth of God's word Tom, as it helps us to have a real appreciation, that God will soon destroy this corrupt world, and usher in an entirely new system of things in which "righteousness is to dwell." (2 Peter 3:13) That's got to be Good News!

Will you be there Tom? to experience a system full of love, rather that of hate, which we see so much of, in the world today, will you?

I hope so.

 

[Parthelan]

What Tom if two people fell out, and one of them decided to cause the other, as much trouble as possible, by making false accusations against, the other person, what would the best policy be, by the police or any other authority.

The first thing they do, is to establish the facts first, and find out, whether there are other witnesses to substantiate, whether the accusations, of the other person's claims, are true, sensible thing to do Tom? or not?

Many of people have tricky tongues today, as you are well aware of Tom, so one has to be very cautious, when faced with many situations, which is, the most prudent course of action to take, would you not agree Tom?

How would you feel, if someone falsely accused you, of something, because they had a vendetta against you, it happens all the time to innocent people Tom.

We live in a very corrupt world Tom, so you have to make sure, we get all the facts first, in that way, everyone is protected against, false accusations being levelled at them, and acted upon, without proper investigation.

It's good to know the truth of God's word Tom, as it helps us to have a real appreciation, that God will soon destroy this corrupt world, and usher in an entirely new system of things in which “righteousness is to dwell.” (2 Peter 3:13) That's got to be Good News!

Will you be there Tom? to experience a system full of love, rather that of hate, which we see so much of, in the world today, will you?

I hope so.

Oh my Gawd, what a heap of shyte

And you work in legal services

My wife was the only witness to a crime committed in a shop near where she used to live. She called the police and the girl involved was arrested in another shop a bit further down the road. 6 months later she went to court and gave testimony as the only witness. The girl was convicted

Your tactic of avoiding addressing specific issues and bringing up claptrap is well documented Dick, and everyone can see right through you.

I pray to God when the end does come, I will be as far away from you and cults like you, as is divinely possible. The thought of having to endure someone like you for all eternity is putting me off me breakfast

 

[cjd]

I have found and used the 'ignore' feature. Highly recommended.

Now I need to find the 'ignore even if found in a quote' feature.

 

[Parthelan]

Now I need to find the 'ignore even if found in a quote' feature.

It doesnt exist

 

[Top Hat]

I have found and used the 'ignore' feature. Highly recommended.

Now I need to find the 'ignore even if found in a quote' feature.

I never new this forum had such a feature.

You do it from the user you want to ignores profile.

Please everyone, ignore DCE, he after all ignores you

 

[cjd]

hmm, wonder if there's a 'shun' feature.........

 

[Parthelan]

hmm, wonder if there's a 'shun' feature.........

Bugger ... animated gifs dont work !

 

[bdw]

Honestly, CJD was right.. it's best just to stop feeding DCE.

You better believe it. I cannot believe you guys are still validating his comments by deeming them worthy of a reply. And all this Tom and Dick s**t is just becoming extremely tiresome.

Let's drop him/it and move on.

.

 

[DCE]

Oh my Gawd, what a heap of shyte

And you work in legal services

My wife was the only witness to a crime committed in a shop near where she used to live. She called the police and the girl involved was arrested in another shop a bit further down the road. 6 months later she went to court and gave testimony as the only witness. The girl was convicted

She called the police and the girl involved was arrested in another shop a bit further down the road.

What seen doing the same thing, like shoplifting, I bet CCTV was involved and the images, were not very good Tom, and the police had to gather lots of evidence, for it to stand up in court, and your wife identified her as being the one she saw, regrettably most crimes are committed without, any third party witnesses, as in your wives case, also they would have had solid evidence of goods stolen or the murder weapon and a body etc.

If the law was based on your premise, none of us would enjoy our breakfast Tom, you have not been on Jury service then Tom? I can tell.

 

[DCE]

You better believe it. I cannot believe you guys are still validating his comments by deeming them worthy of a reply. And all this Tom and Dick s**t is just becoming extremely tiresome.

Let's drop him/it and move on..

Hey BDW why don't you move on by starting a thread "Are you a Humanist an Atheist or and Agnostic" then we could ask you question's.

What do you think of this idea?

 

[Parthelan]

She called the police and the girl involved was arrested in another shop a bit further down the road.

What seen doing the same thing, like shoplifting, I bet CCTV was involved and the images, were not very good Tom, and the police had to gather lots of evidence, for it to stand up in court, and your wife identified her as being the one she saw, regrettably most crimes are committed without, any third party witnesses, as in your wives case, also they would have had solid evidence of goods stolen or the murder weapon and a body etc.

If the law was based on your premise, none of us would enjoy our breakfast Tom, you have not been on Jury service then Tom? I can tell.

Your arrogance knows no bounds. You now presume to tell me what my wife and the police did and didnt do, there must have been cctv and I mustnt have done jury service.

Wrong Dick on every count. There was no cctv. That's why my wifes testimony was critical. She was the only witness Dick, the only witness, and the judge determined her an outstandingly credible witness, and also threw in the fact she was also very brave. No, it wasnt a simple shoplifting case - it was more serious than that.

Get this Dick - without my wifes willingness to go to court, and testify, there would be no case. Got that Dick. No case.

And Ive been on jury service; once for a case that lasted 5 days, and got selected again about 20 years later but wasnt in the country at the time so wrote and got a letter back saying the service would be deferred to a future date.

Your profile is vague enough about your sector - legal services - you're certainly not a lawyer that's for sure. I strongly suspect based on your knowledge, you're in the typing pool

I do my civic duty - unlike you cultists in the jehovah's witnesses.

Now, time for me to join the rest of the enlightened and add you to ignore.

 

[DCE]

Your arrogance knows no bounds. You now presume to tell me what my wife and the police did and didnt do, there must have been cctv and I mustnt have done jury service.

Wrong Dick on every count. There was no cctv. That's why my wifes testimony was critical. She was the only witness Dick, the only witness, and the judge determined her an outstandingly credible witness, and also threw in the fact she was also very brave. No, it wasnt a simple shoplifting case - it was more serious than that.

Get this Dick - without my wifes willingness to go to court, and testify, there would be no case. Got that Dick. No case.

And Ive been on jury service; once for a case that lasted 5 days, and got selected again about 20 years later but wasnt in the country at the time so wrote and got a letter back saying the service would be deferred to a future date.

Your profile is vague enough about your sector - legal services - you're certainly not a lawyer that's for sure. I strongly suspect based on your knowledge, you're in the typing pool

I do my civic duty - unlike you cultists in the jehovah's witnesses.

Now, time for me to join the rest of the enlightened and add you to ignore.

I don't think the case would have been Judged, solely on you wife's testimony, but would have contributed to the overall case, when summing up was carried out Tom, if you were perfectly honest.

You certainly have away with words Tom, you can make anything sound feasible, that has no substance to it at all.

Civic duty is an interesting one Tom, we don't get involved in the military, as my experiences in the Military, was seeing Orthodox & Catholic Priest's blessing the Military Hardware and Bombs and thing's.

We serve Jesus as our King not the Queen, "No Part of The World" remember, Jesus commandments, that's what you really are wanting to ignore, if the truth was really known, your Church has taught you well.

 

[bdw]

Why don't you take your personal issues to PM?

 

[Parthelan]

was seeing Orthodox & Catholic Priest's blessing the Military Hardware and Bombs and thing's.

You're such a lying little weasel arent you

When you first posted you were in the RAF you said you saw catholic and protestant priests blessing hardware.

When you found out Im Orthodox, now your story has changed to catholic and Orthodox priests blessing hardware.

Are you sure you were in the RAF????

The fact is in 2006, for example there was fully 49 Orthodox christians in total across ALL services in the British army.

The Orthodox church did not provide a chaplin

You know that lying is a sin and makes baby Jesus cry dont you

When you're going to tell lies in future, do some background checking first. Here's a list of the churches in the RAChD - Anglican, Roman Catholic, Methodist, Baptist URC Congregational, Church of Scotland Presbyterian, Elim Penetcostal Assemblies of God.

These are commissioned chaplins. There are 5 non commissioned ''chaplins'' covering Sikh, Hindu, Buddist and Muslim and Jewish soldiers

And you work in Legal Services

I'll leave you with this - jehovah's witnesses have up to 5 times higher incidents of mental illness that the rest of the population:

http://www.seanet.com/~raines/mental.html

Get out of your evil cult now Dick, before it's too late for you mind and soul.

Now, Here we go:

MyUKBF > Edit ignore list > add memeber to your ignore list > Add DCE > Click OK.

 

[Parthelan]

Oh - that's cool

When you add someone to ignore, all their previous posts are collapsed in the thread and you no longer see them

 

[bdw]

Brilliant! Sorry DCE I have had to ban you from my profile too!

 

[logoonlinepros]

I do the business pure and faithfully. I think religion does not have an impact on your business. Be honest and run your business activities.

 

[Top Hat]

This is a fun interlude

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOfjkl-3SNE

So whats the next topic, how about the historical jesus, whats the evidence?

 

[FaerieB]

I could never ignore someone cos I'm too nosey ... if you do though, do the threads still make sense :| x

 

[DCE]

You're such a lying little weasel arent you

When you first posted you were in the RAF you said you saw catholic and protestant priests blessing hardware.

When you found out Im Orthodox, now your story has changed to catholic and Orthodox priests blessing hardware.

Are you sure you were in the RAF????

Get out of your evil cult now Dick, before it's too late for you mind and soul./QUOTE]


When I was stationed in the R.A.F Akrotiri in Cyprus, the Orthodox Church was very much involved Tom, in fact they were all over the place, doing everything, but what they should have been doing, and I witnessed it with my own eyes.

(Revelation 18:2-4) .And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, and she has become a dwelling place of demons and a lurking place of every unclean exhalation and a lurking place of every unclean and hated bird! 3*For because of the wine of the anger of her fornication all the nations have fallen [victim], and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the traveling merchants of the earth became rich due to the power of her shameless luxury.” 4*And I heard another voice out of heaven say:“Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues.

Who do you think that is referring too Tom?

We are to get out of her, similar to what you said, but it's the Bible speaking now, which makes all the difference, the truth of God's word, is what it is all about.

 

[Parthelan]

I could never ignore someone cos I'm too nosey ... if you do though, do the threads still make sense :| x

In this case, yes

I can see he's posted something after you, but I cant see what it is, just a box with his name in it, nothing else, so I can answer you, without having to see or wade through his diatripes.

 

[bdw]

I could never ignore someone cos I'm too nosey ... if you do though, do the threads still make sense :| x

I can assure you that the threads make much more sense. If you ignore him then no one will respond to him. He will get fed up and go and do whatever else he does to noise people up.

If people continue to respond to him then you will see their posts but you can then put them on ignore too if you chose.

The satisfying thing about this is that DCE can see what I am writing about him and he cannot respond to me because I will not see it.

I LOVE IT

 

[cjd]

The satisfying thing about this is that DCE can see what I am writing about him and he cannot respond to me because I will not see it.

It's the virtual equivalent of the JW standing on your doorstep talking to your closed door.

 

[Top Hat]

He will also feel like a persecuted christian martyr so its wins all round

 

[DCE]

It's marvellous how God answers your prayers, Cjd Tophat, Parthelan, bdw, all gone, in one minute.

Jesus said this (Matthew 17:20) For truly I say to YOU, If YOU have faith the size of a mustard grain, YOU will say to this mountain, ‘Transfer from here to there,’ and it will transfer, and nothing will be impossible for YOU..*.*.

Peace of mind at last, is it not great, God never let's us down.

 

[FaerieB]

The satisfying thing about this is that DCE can see what I am writing about him and he cannot respond to me because I will not see it.

I LOVE IT

So you made him invisible but I can still see him and in return he can make you invisible but I can still see him ... you can all be invisible and visible at the same time to different people x

 

[DCE]

So you made him invisible but I can still see him and in return he can make you invisible but I can still see him ... you can all be invisible and visible at the same time to different people x

Got to be a real blessing don't you think?