- Original Poster
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Trying to get some usfull guidance, as there are no public forums out there for pub landlords
Who runs a pub on hear then?
- Thread starter Biggins and Beggel
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Once this is all over, go get a job in a pub. That is the ONLY real way of getting accurate guidence.
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There is a website called how to run a pub however some of the guidance should be taken with a huge pinch of salt.
What do you want to know.
What do you want to know.
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@Biggins and Beggel - all your threads hint at you having a product you want to push onto publicans. If this is the case UKBF isn’t the place to do your research as there aren’t any publicans as members.
Go get a job in a pub next year when they reopen if you just want to learn the trade.
Go get a job in a pub next year when they reopen if you just want to learn the trade.
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I have good friends who run pubs and have stood in for periods of time
as others have intimated, what are you actually trying to achieve?
as others have intimated, what are you actually trying to achieve?
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My best advice is don't do it if you are thinking of taking a tenancy or lease. If management different. Think of another trade. There are far too many reasons to list why it's not a good idea...
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She did! . . . . . .He did! . . . . . Him, Him, Him, Him
. . . . .or was it the stone he (she) threw??
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I know a lot about the pub
The local cider comes out the barrel out the back The pump for the cider is not real decoration only
The other pumps have beer come out them
The chef cooks on the cooker I don't normally opt for food but I had a ploughmans the day before Boris banned the pub .Proper hungry that day !
In the summer I sit out in the beer garden In the winter I sit on the table by the fire where I can look out the window too
Can't be much to running a pub
Hope this helps
The local cider comes out the barrel out the back The pump for the cider is not real decoration only
The other pumps have beer come out them
The chef cooks on the cooker I don't normally opt for food but I had a ploughmans the day before Boris banned the pub .Proper hungry that day !
In the summer I sit out in the beer garden In the winter I sit on the table by the fire where I can look out the window too
Can't be much to running a pub
Hope this helps
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I think He started it.
Trying to get the world population down as too many in His herd to control!
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We used to have a pub.
We did very well until the recession and smoking ban came in, it was the smoking ban rather than the recession that killed everything off for us and in the end we were barely making a profit.
The brewery we were tied to were milking us on rent and barrel costs which was fine when we were selling loads, but they would not reduce costs when income dropped. They also offered no support in repairing/improving the pub which they didnt have to, but when there is no profit there is no money to invest and then it just becomes a spiral.
The final straw was 3 men with crowbars on the roof.
Long hours, no money, being a target - not for me. The first night we gave the keys back and left, I slept for 11 hours! Within 3 months I had put on half a stone as I finally had time to sit down and eat food properly.
We did very well until the recession and smoking ban came in, it was the smoking ban rather than the recession that killed everything off for us and in the end we were barely making a profit.
The brewery we were tied to were milking us on rent and barrel costs which was fine when we were selling loads, but they would not reduce costs when income dropped. They also offered no support in repairing/improving the pub which they didnt have to, but when there is no profit there is no money to invest and then it just becomes a spiral.
The final straw was 3 men with crowbars on the roof.
Long hours, no money, being a target - not for me. The first night we gave the keys back and left, I slept for 11 hours! Within 3 months I had put on half a stone as I finally had time to sit down and eat food properly.
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I had a period of a few years like that which I was initially responsible for in so much as I agreed the level of debt to be put on the business. I soon realised my mistake after a year or so but the creditor hammered me for every payment to keep to terms. I am not quite sure how we got out of it alive (well, basically sold the family jewels) but once we did the business never looked back...I still thick it was reckless by the creditor,extending another year to give us breathing space may have actually reduced the term given we could have spent a penny to actually do something, anything.
It was a hard lesson that you can't sustain a business by just cutting expenses, in fact usually if that is one of the few strategies on the table you begin to do more harm than benefit. By the end of it me and a business partner were doing equivalent of 4-5 jobs (and not really the job of running the business). Frustrating as well as you see opportunities pass by every day that you can't take because it would require a few quid investment to make the return.
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My guess is big pubs with large restaurant seating capacity are good.
The local pub on the corner no.
My local, The Prince Albert looks very poorly
Social change has been happening for years; more people work from home, more people shop on line, I can see when this pandemic is over, we wint revert to the same.
Perhaps there are opportunities for village pubs to change into business hubs, if more people work from home, they can pop into their local to get the 'water cooler' time out from the office.
The 10 pubs in every village is dead.
The local pub on the corner no.
My local, The Prince Albert looks very poorly
Social change has been happening for years; more people work from home, more people shop on line, I can see when this pandemic is over, we wint revert to the same.
Perhaps there are opportunities for village pubs to change into business hubs, if more people work from home, they can pop into their local to get the 'water cooler' time out from the office.
The 10 pubs in every village is dead.
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- Original Poster
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Thanks for all the replies, but I have only just got out of bed as I was busy note bashing last night
What kind of pub do you have, is it tied or free house?
Everyone has told me to go for a free house so I can’t get ripped off by the pub-cons. But there are not many free houses for lease on the internet. Most are being let by Admiral Taverns and EI Group plc who have long long long drawn out terms and conditions and then you wonder how much of a barrel of beer they will charge you because they don’t list there catalogs on there web site. However 2 of the pub cons did and the price of beer is double that to what you would pay in the supermarket. Do all pub cons rip you off over a barrel of beer?
What kind of pub do you have, is it tied or free house?
Everyone has told me to go for a free house so I can’t get ripped off by the pub-cons. But there are not many free houses for lease on the internet. Most are being let by Admiral Taverns and EI Group plc who have long long long drawn out terms and conditions and then you wonder how much of a barrel of beer they will charge you because they don’t list there catalogs on there web site. However 2 of the pub cons did and the price of beer is double that to what you would pay in the supermarket. Do all pub cons rip you off over a barrel of beer?
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Where I live (in the north east) there are 7 pubs, a micropub and a club. The population is about 8,000. At the bottom of the hill there is 1 pub and a micropub, population about 14,000.
I think the idea of running a pub on here is sound, however.
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When I work from "home" I actually work from my local pub. Between 11 and 1 there is only usually me and 2 old men in there. At 1pm, some of the people from the local offices come in for lunch and sometimes during the holidays its a mothers meeting with about 5 mums and their kids but generally speaking between 11 and 3 I can get plenty done. If I get food its about £10 as I get staff discount! If I dont get food its about a fiver on brews.
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Where is Byre, he normally has a lot of comments on running a pub, as a ex para he should know the inside out of pubs especially around Aldershot
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I'm in the industry. I wouldn't have recommended getting into it before Covid-19 and I sure as hell wouldn't recommend getting into it post Covid-19.
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Yes its hard working from home and I know a few people that do it full time. What they do is do a few hours at home, then take their laptop to the local coffee shop and get some social interaction.
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Me tooI know I'm being a pedant but the title of this thread bugs me every time I see it
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I know I'm being a pedant but the title of this thread bugs me every time I see it
HAIR HAIR!
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