Ah yes, architects, who needs 'em.
From CNN last week (can't post the link):
10 dead after coronavirus quarantine hotel collapses in China
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Ah yes, architects, who needs 'em.
From CNN last week (can't post the link):
10 dead after coronavirus quarantine hotel collapses in China
Really? If you don't know what peer reviewing is you shouldn't be reading preprints.
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The UK Gov in time honoured tradition, has now done a complete 180 degree U turn on large gatherings in a period of 24hrs. Events such as the premier league, Wimbledon, Glastonbury etc look set to be cancelled, but schools still to be left open.
It seems all the criticism of acting so differently to the rest of the world has had an effect.
It seems all the criticism of acting so differently to the rest of the world has had an effect.
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Yes and they will follow suit with schools, probably waiting for Easter holidays to 'soften' the impact. Other countries have done it (with the same issues that others have been against it) and they have managed.
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Karen Brady's suggestion that the season should be declared null and void are also very commendable.
/sarcasm
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Beware on topic post!
Research quoted in the Mirror.......
"Their analysis revealed that the virus can survive for up to four hours on copper and up to 24 hours on cardboard.
However, the results indicate that the virus can survive for the longest time on plastic and stainless steel, surviving for up to three days.
Meanwhile, the study also found that the virus could be detected in aerosols, up to three hours post aerosolisation.
The researchers added: “Our results indicate that aerosol and fomite transmission of HCoV-19 are plausible, as the virus can remain viable in aerosols for multiple hours and on surfaces up to days.”
So don't splash out for overnight delivery.
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The Mail reports today that the CDC in the USA presented four scenarios on this virus back in February of this year.
Worst case scenario for the USA, 21 million people requiring hospitalisation with 1.7 million resulting deaths, the USA has 924000 hospital beds available in total.
Even with intervention starting today it is believed 3million in the USA will fall ill, even at a 1% mortality rate that is 30000 potential deaths caused by the virus. Let’s hope these models are incorrect.
Worst case scenario for the USA, 21 million people requiring hospitalisation with 1.7 million resulting deaths, the USA has 924000 hospital beds available in total.
Even with intervention starting today it is believed 3million in the USA will fall ill, even at a 1% mortality rate that is 30000 potential deaths caused by the virus. Let’s hope these models are incorrect.
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Posted elsewhere, but I'll stick this here as well -
I received the following short article from an Italian doctor who worked at Shenzhen Hospital in China and was appointed by the Chinese government to the Wuhan Pneumonia Virus Study Team or Corona Virus.
Here's a summary -
- If a person has a runny nose with expectoration (ejecting phlegm or mucus) they are not infected with the coronavirus, because pneumonia causes a dry cough without a runny nose. This is the easiest way to identify it.
It's also good to know that the coronavirus is not heat-resistant and dies at a temperature of 26 to 27 degrees. So drink lots of hot water like tea. It is not a cure, but it is good for the body. Drinking hot water is effective in killing all viruses.
Expose yourself to the sun when it's winter.
- The virus is quite large (the cell has a diameter of approx. 400-500 nm) so that any normal mask (not just the 3M N95 mask) can filter it.
If someone who is infected sneezes, they will spread about 3 meters before falling to the ground. that is, it is floating in the air.
- If the virus falls on a metal surface, it lives for at least 12 hours. So remember that if you come into contact with a metal surface, wash your hands thoroughly with soap.
- The virus can remain active in clothing for 6-12 hours. Normal detergent kills the virus. Winter clothing that does not need to be washed daily should be placed in the sun to kill the virus.
Information about the symptoms of pneumonia caused by the coronavirus:
- First, it infects the throat, then it feels like a dry sore throat in the throat that lasts 3 to 4 days.
- Then the virus melts into the nasal fluid and drips into the trachea and gets into the lungs, causing Wuhan's pneumonia. This process takes 5 to 6 days.
- A condition of pneumonia, high fever and difficulty breathing will follow. A stuffy nose is not like a normal stuffy nose. You will feel like you are drowning in water. It is important to see a doctor immediately if you feel this.
About prevention:
- The most common way to get infected is to touch things like handrails, door handles, handles on the bus, etc. in public. Therefore, you should wash your hands frequently. The virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but many things can happen in these 5-10 minutes, e.g. B. rubbing your eyes.
- It is recommended to gargle with a mouthwash containing povidone-iodine, also known as iodopovidone to remove or minimize germs while they are still in the throat (before dripping into the lungs).
I received the following short article from an Italian doctor who worked at Shenzhen Hospital in China and was appointed by the Chinese government to the Wuhan Pneumonia Virus Study Team or Corona Virus.
Here's a summary -
- If a person has a runny nose with expectoration (ejecting phlegm or mucus) they are not infected with the coronavirus, because pneumonia causes a dry cough without a runny nose. This is the easiest way to identify it.
It's also good to know that the coronavirus is not heat-resistant and dies at a temperature of 26 to 27 degrees. So drink lots of hot water like tea. It is not a cure, but it is good for the body. Drinking hot water is effective in killing all viruses.
Expose yourself to the sun when it's winter.
- The virus is quite large (the cell has a diameter of approx. 400-500 nm) so that any normal mask (not just the 3M N95 mask) can filter it.
If someone who is infected sneezes, they will spread about 3 meters before falling to the ground. that is, it is floating in the air.
- If the virus falls on a metal surface, it lives for at least 12 hours. So remember that if you come into contact with a metal surface, wash your hands thoroughly with soap.
- The virus can remain active in clothing for 6-12 hours. Normal detergent kills the virus. Winter clothing that does not need to be washed daily should be placed in the sun to kill the virus.
Information about the symptoms of pneumonia caused by the coronavirus:
- First, it infects the throat, then it feels like a dry sore throat in the throat that lasts 3 to 4 days.
- Then the virus melts into the nasal fluid and drips into the trachea and gets into the lungs, causing Wuhan's pneumonia. This process takes 5 to 6 days.
- A condition of pneumonia, high fever and difficulty breathing will follow. A stuffy nose is not like a normal stuffy nose. You will feel like you are drowning in water. It is important to see a doctor immediately if you feel this.
About prevention:
- The most common way to get infected is to touch things like handrails, door handles, handles on the bus, etc. in public. Therefore, you should wash your hands frequently. The virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but many things can happen in these 5-10 minutes, e.g. B. rubbing your eyes.
- It is recommended to gargle with a mouthwash containing povidone-iodine, also known as iodopovidone to remove or minimize germs while they are still in the throat (before dripping into the lungs).
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I wouldn’t normally question one of your posts, but the human body runs at about 37 degrees so the I would’ve thought the virus would survive at that temperature at least to take hold.
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I had the same magic thought and much of that post may be bogus. Or just mistranslated. Most viruses die at between 70 and 80C! It was sent to me from a German news agency as being the actual report from that doctor.
Sunshine (well, a strong UV source) does kill nearly all viruses.
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Poland:
25 new cases in Poland
Beginning March 14:
- only grocery stores, pharmacies, laundromats and banks will remain open
- restaurants, pubs and clubs will be closed except those offering delivery or take-out food
Beginning March 16:
- borders closed to all foreigners
- full border control reintroduced for the next 10 days
- international air and rail travel suspended
- 14-day quarantine ordered for Poles returning from abroad
- gatherings of more than 50 people banned
25 new cases in Poland
Beginning March 14:
- only grocery stores, pharmacies, laundromats and banks will remain open
- restaurants, pubs and clubs will be closed except those offering delivery or take-out food
Beginning March 16:
- borders closed to all foreigners
- full border control reintroduced for the next 10 days
- international air and rail travel suspended
- 14-day quarantine ordered for Poles returning from abroad
- gatherings of more than 50 people banned
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Reading today that 27 million in the USA are not insured for medical assistance , Mainly illegal immigrants and if the they visit a hospital there is a automatic test to see if they are registered and then face deportation as a outcome
May not be good for holding back the virus, a catch 22 situation
May not be good for holding back the virus, a catch 22 situation
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Very simple.
They haven't got a clue.
They will not know what has hit them when the s#!t hits the fan, as it will.
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So this is our situation. We have a spa that mainly does massage and numbers are dropping day by day. We will end up closing our doors either through a case linked to a customers or even a staff member.. We have just signed up for a fresh ten year lease after being trading for seven years up until now. We are a ltd company with no guarantors but we relay want to slog this one out if we can.
Our rent inc service charge is just over £4k a quarter and we save every week to cover this and the VAT, Ni bills etc.. rent is due in two weeks.
We will have about £10k in our account after this quarter rent gets paid. We dont know what to do for the best after the shit hits the fan and we have to close our doors.. We was thinking to strip back everything apart from the rent and try and sit it out for a while but the government will fine us if we don`t pay sick to our staff, which in turn will strip our cash away much faster.. Four staff members will be due redundancy if we lay them off. We want to reopen and re-employ the staff etc. We will of course be stopping our own wages first.
Do businesses close down and re open as a different company? I presume this would null the lease and leave you to the risk of eviction if the landlord wanted you out?
Our VAT bill is normally around £10k a quarter, so we wont have that for sure..
Really don`t know how to mitigate this situation.
Our rent inc service charge is just over £4k a quarter and we save every week to cover this and the VAT, Ni bills etc.. rent is due in two weeks.
We will have about £10k in our account after this quarter rent gets paid. We dont know what to do for the best after the shit hits the fan and we have to close our doors.. We was thinking to strip back everything apart from the rent and try and sit it out for a while but the government will fine us if we don`t pay sick to our staff, which in turn will strip our cash away much faster.. Four staff members will be due redundancy if we lay them off. We want to reopen and re-employ the staff etc. We will of course be stopping our own wages first.
Do businesses close down and re open as a different company? I presume this would null the lease and leave you to the risk of eviction if the landlord wanted you out?
Our VAT bill is normally around £10k a quarter, so we wont have that for sure..
Really don`t know how to mitigate this situation.
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Where are you based?
Lenders and banks are being encouraged to be sympathetic to this common plight, and both the English and Scottish governments have put relief in place particularly for industries like yours.
Rates holidays, various reductions in outgoings, grants, cash flow funding, tax funding. There are options.
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I’d speak to your landlord as well.
The economy is going to take a huge hit, the landlord might struggle to find someone else to take it on very quickly - I know I’d rather defer (or possibly write off) rent for a few months than lose a good tenant altogether.
I really wish you the best. It’s no consolation I know but there are a lot of people in the same boat. Speaking to some friends of mine today, business is running at 30% of where it should be. They will be running into problems as early as the end of the month if it continues (which it almost certainly will).
The economy is going to take a huge hit, the landlord might struggle to find someone else to take it on very quickly - I know I’d rather defer (or possibly write off) rent for a few months than lose a good tenant altogether.
I really wish you the best. It’s no consolation I know but there are a lot of people in the same boat. Speaking to some friends of mine today, business is running at 30% of where it should be. They will be running into problems as early as the end of the month if it continues (which it almost certainly will).
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France in lockdown from Midnight for all ‘non essential’ businesses.
Italy in lockdown.
Spain in lockdown.
I’d be amazed if we get as far as Wednesday without any kind of restrictions on movement in the UK.
Italy in lockdown.
Spain in lockdown.
I’d be amazed if we get as far as Wednesday without any kind of restrictions on movement in the UK.
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Nobody mentions UAE at the moment. Our daughter teaches there and the schools are closed for at least 4 weeks (e-learning) with a rumour it will be till the end of term (June). They have also now suspended virtually all entry visas.from Monday. Far fewer cases (allegedly) than UK
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That’s it, I’m moving to Poland
I had considered moving to China but I’m sick of their food.
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Meanwhile in France, the number of infections has doubled in the last three days, to 4500. Of the 300 in ICU, half of the patients are UNDER 60.
Worryingly, France is only testing for Covid19 if the patient needs urgent hospital care, so the number of the infected could be much higher. According to a friend, calls have been jammed to the French version of 111 for the last couple of days.
It would appear they are being totally swamped by this virus.
Not sure why there is a much higher younger demographic in France, possibly because they still smoke a lot?
Worryingly, France is only testing for Covid19 if the patient needs urgent hospital care, so the number of the infected could be much higher. According to a friend, calls have been jammed to the French version of 111 for the last couple of days.
It would appear they are being totally swamped by this virus.
Not sure why there is a much higher younger demographic in France, possibly because they still smoke a lot?
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No. I had a few tears earlier, prompted by just a conversation about music. Emotions are heightened around about now
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