vdeep.com - Adult Shopping Comparison

[vdeep.com]

Hi,

Hi it seems my last post may have been removed as im not sure if the administrators thought it was a little to “advertisie”. Basically I heard about this forum in another business forum and thought I would come check it out. Vdeep.com is a new project that has not long launched into beta, I am now just looking around the different forums seeing what’s of interest and to see if there are anyone registered who would benefit from using our site obviously if I can contribute to any threads then I happily will.

An introduction to my business:

We have not long launched the first adult focused shopping comparison site. If anyone here has a web site of a business that they feel would fit into our remit of interest please feel free to contact us…Oh yeah it is currently free to list with us.

We are the adult answer to Kelkoo and Shopping.com, we compare products from around the internet, we allow consumers to shop from multiple stores and provide a level plate form for online retailers to advertise there goods.

Look forward to hearing from anyone.

PS… If you have any comments about the site please feel free to post them of email us.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL

 

[Coding Monkey]

I think it was removed based on the nature of your business

 

[Admiral Collections]

Hi

Welcome to the forum. I checked out your website and your variety of products is really quite amazing and also very reasonable. Obviously can't go into too much detail but the crystal/glass range I thought was very original, haven't seen those before.

I wish you all the best with your business.

Nic :wink:

 

[fastfences]

Hi Vdeep. If you're more concerned as to why your original posting was removed rather than blatantly plugging your pornography, why did you not just PM a moderator with your query instead of pushing your product before minors and a host of others who have no warning as to its content?
Regards, Nigel

 

[Admiral Collections]

Vdeep remove your website address from your profile, anyone who is interested in your products can then PM you or your website address and take it from there. Just in case you are totally new, if Urban Space or Junior ask for it then don't give it to them because they are minors.

In your defence I would like to add that to all intents and purposes I believe this to be an adult business forum. People under the age of 16 in my opinion should not be posting on here and adults should not be encouraging them, no-one knows who anyone is on forums like these and that is far more dangerous than a child linking to a website out of curiosity. The nature of the web is children can access a variety of things if they aren't monitored by their parents.

Rant over.

Nic :wink:

 

[vdeep.com]

MacMyDay - I hope that is not the reason, there is nothing illegal about our business, we simply point consumers in the best direction to make an adult purchase and provide online retailers with a cost effective method of advertising to those consumers.

Nicthechick – Thanks for your comment.

Fastfences – Adult Shopping Comparison to be honest I thought that said it all, but point taken.

Thanks for the replies

 

[Admiral Collections]

Oops can I amend my previous reply a tad.

When I referred to forums like these, I wasnt implying that this isnt a respectable forum, however, as we can all see people visit, browse and don't become involved. It only takes one unscrupulous person to take advantage of the younger ones.

Sorry if I offended anyone.


Nic :wink:

 

[fastfences]

Fastfences – Adult Shopping Comparison to be honest I thought that said it all, but point taken.

Thanks for the replies

Hi Vdeep, Certainly correct, It's quite clearly pointed out that it's a 'comparison site', but it's a pornographic site hidden behind the 'comparison' facade. It matters not whether the business is legal or legitimate, it's where the business is promoted that is my point of concern. If one wants to purchase 'butt plugs' or videos, they still link directly from your site. There is no warning of the material to be found, and one is instantly faced with 'full on' material.
cheers, Nigel

 

[Jayne]

I agree with Nic, remove your web link. There are a few younger members who should not see this and i'm not looking because Nigel says it's porn and I don't like that sort of stuff.

And welcome to the forum.

Jayne

 

[creospace]

Don't think anyone said it was illegal, not in good taste maybe, offenceive maybe and as this is a respectable business forum and that your busienss is not readily accepted (whether it should or shoudln't is another topic) then it maybe in your best interestes to do as nic said and remove links to your site unless requested by a private message.

Gary

 

[Magsite]

We can all agree that business is business, however I agree that PM if interested will be the best way to keep everyone happy.

Lisa

 

[vdeep.com]

I must say I am some what amazed at the replies I am getting here. Vdeep.com is a respectable business; we are an advertising platform that specialises in the adult market. You seem to keep referring to our site as a pornographic web site when in fact we are not. Aside from our DVD section we list pharmaceuticals, lingerie, gifts & novelties, alcohol, fragrances, contraception, adult furniture, books and much more. Perhaps if you took the time to go and have a look you would be a little better informed.

 

[creospace]

You seem to be digging yourself a hole here:

'referring to our site as a pornographic web site ' >> 'Aside from our DVD section'

And I should add that 'respectable' is a relative term.

Whislt we should welcome all; You, 'vdeep' (even this raises an eyebrow), have to bare in mind that your type of business will not be welcomed by all or ineed considered to be respectable by all.

Gary

 

[creacom]

I just cant work out what exactly is " adult furniture " !! I think I prefer to be left in the dark about it too !!!

Best thing to do is remove your link from your profile and sig. Of course I am sure we will all be happy to help you out, chat and give you great advice after.

In the industry that you work in I am sure you already know that this type of product and photo can shock and upset people.

So welcome to the forum.

Jacqueline

 

[Jayne]

If Nic says to remove the link, then obviously it's not suitable for children. It's a public forum, so kids can quite easily click it.

Please remove the link before the younger members log on

Jayne

 

[Admiral Collections]

Cannot believe how small minded some of you are being.

If you don't like it, don't look and shut up about it. Ann Summers do the same thing for crying out loud, bet some of you have visited the shops or had one of their parties. Ann Summers is an extremely successful business and it was also viewed with raised eyebrows when it was first launched.

Porn is everywhere, how many of you go into your newsagents and insist they remove the mags from the top shelf? I assume the goods vdeep is selling is meant to be shared between two consulting adults.

Give it a rest.

Nic :wink:

 

[creospace]

Porn is everywhere, how many of you go into your newsagents and insist they remove the mags from the top shelf? I assume the goods vdeep is selling is meant to be shared between two consulting adults.

I take what your saying but with regard to the above comment, does it make it any more acceptable.

Raciasim is everywhere, crime is everywhere but does it make them acceptable?

 

[creacom]

Who is being small minded ?

Like yourself Nic, I simply asked him to remove the link and then if people are interested they can PM him.

Also, its true that some people might find this offensive. Personally, I dont find it offensive but some people might when they click on from his link.

Jacqui ''

 

[vdeep.com]

Thank you Nic for your comments again.

I don’t see how you suddenly have gone from vdeep.com to racism and crime, maybe you should read up on the success of accompanies like Ann Summers and others or consider the success of Sex in the City and other such programs.

No offence but if you have a problem with our service please feel free not to use our site, this is a business forum and we have joined it to see what we can learn, and potentially look for some partners in areas where we can mutually help each other.

If your personal views on what may be considered controversial businesses such adult, alcohol, tobacco, gambling is something you are not interested in participating in simply don’t.

 

[Hayles]

I'm with the majority of the others too on this. I think you should remove your link and let people PM you for info. I've no problem at all with your business but, as previously said, there isn't any warning for people who do find your business offensive.

The person who runs this forum has decided that minors can join, do you really think those minors should have your web link available each time you post?

And yes, I know they can source the sites if they want to elsewhere, but that isn't the issue here.

Hayles

 

[Hayles]

and shut up

I love it when you use your customer service skills on here Nic! :lol:

 

[Admiral Collections]

[
Raciasim is everywhere, crime is everywhere but does it make them acceptable?

Neither of these are acceptable, you are now moving into an arena that will serve no purpose but to blow up the forums.

As adults we all have a choice. My point over.

Nic :wink:

 

[creospace]

This site allows for anyone of any age to view it, it allows for members to join above the age of 13 and the site in question is only suitable for those over the age of 18.

This I think is the issue that is being discussed here and this is the reason a warning is required prior to visitng the site and the removal of any link including your username, which is unfortunate but at this early stage not a big problem.

Apart from that theres no reason I can see why you can't take part in the dsicussions that are taking part here and receive suitable advice where it is needed.

 

[Hayles]

My 12 year old often looks over my shoulder while I'm on the forum. How do I explain the new member? Or should the forum now become unacceptable for families....?

Surely it isn't a problem to remove your weblink and get people to contact you for more info?

 

[Jayne]

My niece does too, she's only 12.

I agree with you Hayles.

Jayne

 

[vdeep.com]

It now says Over 18s only - is that better?

I am shocked at the type of response I have received here today from the majority of members. I came here expecting to met people that were within reason in the same boat “all trying to get there business going and running well” and so fare all I have received from most of you are negative comments.

 

[Admiral Collections]

and shut up

I love it when you use your customer service skills on here Nic! :lol:

All my clients are very happy, I reserve shut up for their debtors when they are crying, begging me not to kill them :twisted:


Nic :wink:

 

[Cornish Steve]

I must say I am some what amazed at the replies I am getting here.

Why are you amazed? Students of all ages (including many teens) frequent this site in order to learn about becoming an entrepreneur. It's in the interests of forum members to keep it respectable. If we don't do that, we'd be violating their trust. By not responding to requests to remove the link from your initial message, you are already violating our trust.

 

[Cornish Steve]

Cannot believe how small minded some of you are being.

If you don't like it, don't look and shut up about it. Ann Summers do the same thing for crying out loud, bet some of you have visited the shops or had one of their parties. Ann Summers is an extremely successful business and it was also viewed with raised eyebrows when it was first launched.

Porn is everywhere, how many of you go into your newsagents and insist they remove the mags from the top shelf? I assume the goods vdeep is selling is meant to be shared between two consulting adults.

Give it a rest.

Nic :wink:

Nic, if this was an adult-only site, I'd agree - but it's not. An increasing number of young people have been joining our number, which I think is very healthy. In return, we have a responsibility to maintain certain standards. I see nothing wrong at all with vdeep shielding links from forum readers and requesting interested parties to send a PM.

 

[Hayles]

Personally I don't think it's enough to put the warning in your signature. As we've said, the forum is open to youngsters of 13 upwards, and as I say, my 12 year old often watches me (she thinks some of the members photos look funny (!!)).

But I for one will now leave it to Ozzy and the Mods to decide.

If the signature stays, then I'll only frequent the site when my daughter's not about.

 

[SillyJokes]

I'm torn. I do think it's wrong to promote this site to the wrong group but perhaps VDeep didn't know this place had kids amongst the number (and Mark Pearson)

But the adult toy industry is extremely lucrative and makes a very profitable business. And someone must be buying it! Even the adult furniture.

I reckon that VDeep should be welcome as far as joining the forum, asking questions and contribution but should keep his/ her site to themselves.

As V deep did ask for comments on the site I would sigh and say that it looks like just another shopping directory. Affiliates make good money in the adult market and therefore it is very crowded and you will have to work pretty hard in a very competitive area to make money.

 

[Admiral Collections]

[Nic :wink:[/quote]
Nic, if this was an adult-only site, I'd agree - but it's not. An increasing number of young people have been joining our number, which I think is very healthy. In return, we have a responsibility to maintain certain standards. I see nothing wrong at all with vdeep shielding links from forum readers and requesting interested parties to send a PM.[/quote]

Steve,

Are you just repeating what I said initially? Remove the signature, remove the direct web address and anyone interested can PM. (echo, echo)

I wouldn't allow my children to frequent a business forum. I'm sorry, but that is just how I feel. They should be concentrating on their studies, but again, I have already voiced my opinion on this in previous threads.

The age limit should be upped to 16 to join, however, it doesn't take a genius to alter their birth date.

Maybe we should all calm down in Time Out if this is the case and if this a cause of concern for members. I know there have been certain threads that I have found it totally inapropriate for Junior and Liam to take part in, hence, my reluctance to reply to either of them half the time.

Nic :wink:

 

[Cornish Steve]

Yup, I'm repeating what you said initially. Your words, unfortunately, went unheeded.

 

[DuaneJackson]

IMHO business is business and vdeeps site is perfectly legitimate even if some people don't approve. I don't see a problem.

As for kids on here - it's up to the parents to police what they do and see on the 'net. Adult content is easily accessed if thats what they want to do. The additions of "over 18s only" is a welcome warning though.

Damnnit, I promised myself i wouldn't get involved with this thread!

 

[Cornish Steve]

Me too, Duane, but I can't help myself sometimes!

I guess, the issue to me is one of trust. We all get along quite well at the forum. We bend over backwards to help one another, and we welcome advice. Along comes a new member with a belligerent attitude ("I'll just do what I want - screw your opinions"). It's not surprising, therefore, that the welcome is rather frosty.

If vdeep had quietly removed his link and added a message inviting PMs, he would have immediately made a lot of friends and generated goodwill. Maybe it's not too late to do that.

 

[Admiral Collections]

Well, as a person who kicked the forum into a frenzy without ever intending too (and it was a deeply unpleasant experience, I hasten to add) I fully sympathise with Vdeep.

I doubt he/she will come back after that slaughtering.

Nic :wink:

 

[Hayles]

Good post Gold Steve!

Damnit II, I'm not commenting any more either....!

 

[cjd]

Gosh, I can't believe I nearly missed out on this outburst of righteous indignation ;-)

V's sig now has a 18 warning; dunno whether that was always there or not, but it seems adequate to my mind.

If the business is legal I see no reason for it not to be treated like any other here.

As for the 'children look over my shoulder' arguments. They seem a little disingenuous, the thread is titled 'Adult Shopping Comparison' - I think it would be hard to say you didn't expect to see what you saw when you clicked on the link. (I generally find the phrase 'protect my child' from this usually means 'I don't like this' - which is fair enough, but as I say, disingenuous)

On the site itself - it has a couple of big flaws:

1. Hardly any comparison shops for same product. Most had only 1 shop. Useless for a pricerunner type application

2. It's damned expensive. I checked a couple of DVD prices on Amazon and found they where massively cheaper there. I suspect that if I knew the products better (I wish ) I'd find that the this was the case on most of the products sold, so the big task is to make this engine comprehensive, which I suspect will be a hard slog.

Personally I find 'adult' products either ludicrously funny or crude and offensive. I really don't understand why the majority of it is just so un-erotic. I'm sure there's a massive market for good quality erotic material; if I was in this market I'd be looking for ways of filtering out the pure perverse and teenage masturbatory stuff and looking for mid or high end market, couple based, erotica that women can look at too without thinking they're in a doctor's surgery or a male fantasy.

 

[Ozzy]

Jeez, take a weekend off and it goes mad again

This site does attract the attention of media and minors, and as I do work for the Young Enterprise I also invite children from various schools and colleges I work with to visit these forums.
I have no problem at all with vdeep using these forums, and even mentioning what he does in his signature. However, I have to agree that (as has been done) the link in the signature needs to be removed so it is not as easy for a minor to click through.
As mentioned above, it is ultimately the parents responsability to police what their children look at on the web, but this forum would not be a website that a parent should consider monitoring - and I never want it to be so.

vdeep, you are more than welcome here as afterall business is business and not everyone has to agree whether it is a good and bad business - so long as it earns you a living. I hope you stick around and play get involved here.