The New Dragons...

[moo-tique]

Ok, so Dragon's Den is back along with 3 new dragons. Having seen the first episode, what do you make of the new dragon's?

 

[Karimbo]

Seems that each year they're getting less "high profile" entreprenuers. Well it seems that way anyway, in the beginning it seemed like all the dragons were on peter jones' level with private jets and whatnot. Now they're more on the smaller scale.

 

[moo-tique]

Do you think it's run it's course? Introducing new dragons is all very well, but maybe it's time to re-vamp by changing the structure of the show?

 

[garyk]

Yes I think with all these shows they get tired and it becomes the proverbial flogging the dead horse. The apprentice is tired and so is DD.

 

[beasty]

I was a big fan, but there are only so many times you can watch someone bully a start up and try and steal their company, i know a guy who was on the US version, he was on for 1 hour he was edited to 8 minutes (He is a fitness expert)

The dragons are experienced but no infallible which i am sure they are aware of, but Dragons Den is driven by TV and so going on there and expecting a fair run is nutty.

Oh yes, the condescending tone annoys me, i know it is part of the show but nearly everyone who is a success has experienced many failures, allowing one failure to define you is not a trait of the Dragons or anyone entrepreneurial but they quickly forget their own fk ups

 

[Paul Murray]

Is Deborah Meaden still on? It always seems like nobody ever wants to go with her.

Like The Apprentice, in recent years it's become more of an entertainment show ("Look at how daft this bloke is! LOL at his hair! What a stupid product") and I find the format somewhat repetitive now. Plus, like The Apprentice it portrays successful business owners as callous and greedy because money money money!

 

[Mitch3473]

You can always tell when DM is going to make an offer, everyone else does it first. Maybe that's why no one wants to go with her.

 

[Karimbo]

I was a big fan, but there are only so many times you can watch someone bully a start up and try and steal their company, i know a guy who was on the US version, he was on for 1 hour he was edited to 8 minutes (He is a fitness expert)

I dont blame the dragons, they make a lot of money anyway so their time is worth a lot of money. For them to invest in a product it needs to have BIG returns and they want big equity stake for it too.

I put the blame more on poor business decisions from the company owners, there's a guy on a US show (dragons den or shark tank, cant rememebr) who kept giving away equity to get investment. He was left with just 10% of his company because he was giving away 20%ish each time getting investments.

The investors can hold a shareholders meeting and vote to remove him as the director and appoint their own.

 

[vvaannmmaann]

I have never watched it I do not intend to start now.

 

[14Steve14]

I do wish that they would do more follow up shows. It would be great to see how things have moved on, which would give inspiration to others. it may also be good to see why something failed.

May be space for a dragons spin off show.

 

[moo-tique]

I do wish that they would do more follow up shows. It would be great to see how things have moved on, which would give inspiration to others. it may also be good to see why something failed.

May be space for a dragons spin off show.

Good idea. I think they did one a while back but it would be great to see more of them. It's a bit like a stuck record at the moment, same show structure only different dragons. It's more about the dragons and less about the people who the show should be about.

 

[norwichlad]

Seems that each year they're getting less "high profile" entreprenuers. Well it seems that way anyway, in the beginning it seemed like all the dragons were on peter jones' level with private jets and whatnot. Now they're more on the smaller scale.

Surely their high profile comes as a result of being on Dragons Den? Presumably that's their motivation for doing it.

 

[ready steady solutions]

I finally got round to watching it last night, and I must say I have taken to the new dragons better than I thought, they are not to bad. I certainty wouldn't watch it if Deborah and Peter leave. I'm not that fond of the this xfactor format they have off contestant stories and tears though.

 

[sirearl]

THE Grimsby-born entrepreneur who developed the Tangle Teezer has seen his company grow to become the biggest ever turned down by the investors on BBC's Dragons' Den.

When Shaun Pulfrmillion.ey appeared on the show in 2007, his offer of 15 per cent of his company for an £80,000 investment was turned down flat.

The brush, designed to glide through tangled hair, has now become a global phenomenon sold in 70 countries and can count Victoria Beckham, Cara Delavigne and Emma Watson among its fans.

Mr Pulfrey's company is now worth a staggering £65 million, with an annual turnover of £30

 

[BustersDogs]

Yeah but the brush still doesn't make brushing your damn hair any easier after being out in the wind and rain with dogs all day...