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Hi guys

just a quickie,

i've been looking at creating myself an iphone app for my business, its pretty standard just an rss feed.

I've made a nice one, free online at http://www.appmakr.com/ but now it wants me to register with apple as a apps developer for £300 ???

I don't want to sell it just give people the option to download it from my site, so i don't want it added to the itunes store or anything like that

Does anyone know of a decent, Free online apps maker which will let me save the apps to my sever for easy download.

Thanks and happy new year everyone :D
 
The only way to get your app on Apple i-devices is to have it on the Appstore. The only way to place an app on the store is to be an Apple developer... you pay the £300 for that.

Apple are the gate keepers. They vet and approve all applications for their devices. It has it's benefits, but also it's downsides.

Edit Ok there is Jailbreaking. If a person has a jailbroken iPhone they can download any old app off the web. Their number are small however and it's a completely pointless route to go down as a business.
 
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Jeff Knows said:
The only way to get your app on Apple i-devices is to have it on the Appstore. The only way to place an app on the store is to be an Apple developer... you pay the £300 for that.

Apple are the gate keepers. They vet and approve all applications for their devices. It has it's benefits, but also it's downsides.

Edit Ok there is Jailbreaking. If a person has a jailbroken iPhone they can download any old app off the web. Their number are small however and it's a completely pointless route to go down as a business.
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Thanks for that Jeff.

I can't believe that every app has to be approved does it??, Its such an easy app to do, surely there must another legal and free way??

£300 is a hell of a lot of money to fork out when i've done the work on the app, people that would normally download from my site wouldn't normally go on appstore so its pretty pointless playing to be listed on there?? The app is just an RSS feed from my Engineering jobsite, so people can get the latest engineering jobs live to their smartphone.

Could their be an alternative way to this, how about WAP??

Thanks again Jeff ;)
 
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Merchant UK said:
Thanks for that Jeff.

I can't believe that every app has to be approved does it??, Its such an easy app to do, surely there must another legal and free way??

£300 is a hell of a lot of money to fork out when i've done the work on the app, people that would normally download from my site wouldn't normally go on appstore so its pretty pointless playing to be listed on there?? The app is just an RSS feed from my Engineering jobsite, so people can get the latest engineering jobs live to their smartphone.

Could their be an alternative way to this, how about WAP??

Thanks again Jeff ;)
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You could find someone who has an app license who will add it to the app store for you for a small token payment?

I would also look at other sources such as Android, windows phones and maybe Symbian phones too (nokia smart phones).
 
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Merchant UK said:
Thanks for that Jeff.

I can't believe that every app has to be approved does it??, Its such an easy app to do, surely there must another legal and free way??

£300 is a hell of a lot of money to fork out when i've done the work on the app, people that would normally download from my site wouldn't normally go on appstore so its pretty pointless playing to be listed on there?? The app is just an RSS feed from my Engineering jobsite, so people can get the latest engineering jobs live to their smartphone.

Could their be an alternative way to this, how about WAP??

Thanks again Jeff ;)
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Yes, every app needs approved. The idea is that by doing it that way no unsavory or malicious stuff get's into the app-store and therefor onto customers devices. You could certainly argue it's ineffectual.. but it's the way they want to do business and it seems to have worked.

Your best bet is to scrap the app idea and just have a nice mobile site. By going the app route you are both consigning yourself to writing and maintaining multiple versions. You would need atleast an iOS and an Android version. Not to mention Symbian, Windows Phone 7 and Blackberry.

With a mobile site you won't get the fancy stuff like push notifications however. People would have to launch their mobile browser and come to the site. Or as Faevilangel you could ask for someone with a Developers license to put your app up for you.. not sure what Apple Terms of Service say about that however.

Also : lol, WAP. WAP is long dead.
 
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dots and spots Jeff said:
Sorry for going off topic on a bit of a tangent, but what is the difference between an app and a mobile web site?

Jeff
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A mobile web site used a browser to view [mobile formatted] HTML

An App uses native code on the handset's OS to create the user interface and much of the functionality. it uses the network to transport the data only.

Generally speaking an App will deliver a better user experience but a mobile web site will be more reach a wider audience (since by it's mature it's cross-platform)

Regards

Dotty
 
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We are registered App developers ;)
However, having gone through the process (and you have to prove all sorts of things to Apple) to join, our development direction changed, so we have never developed any apps... so, never submitted anything... Also, can't remember paying £300 - more like $99:
http://developer.apple.com/programs/ios/

I think though that it would be cheapest for you to spend the $99 dollars than my spending the time working out how to add it to the store :) - if we get around to playing with the app store I will let you know... (still got some plans...) until then there may be other signed up developers on here who are a wee bit more active ;)

Alasdair
 
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akirk said:
We are registered App developers ;)
However, having gone through the process (and you have to prove all sorts of things to Apple) to join, our development direction changed, so we have never developed any apps... so, never submitted anything... Also, can't remember paying £300 - more like $99:
http://developer.apple.com/programs/ios/

I think though that it would be cheapest for you to spend the $99 dollars than my spending the time working out how to add it to the store :) - if we get around to playing with the app store I will let you know... (still got some plans...) until then there may be other signed up developers on here who are a wee bit more active ;)

Alasdair
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Thanks Alasdair, and thanks for that link, $99 is def cheaper than £300 ;) I'll see what the guys back at the office think on tuesday, afterall its a free app for people looking for engineering work, nothing technical ;)

Cheers buddy

Gerry
 
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akirk said:
If no other luck - give me a call - no below - and if I have time will see what we can do - just no real idea, as not done it before - but it might inspire me to build the app I have been thinking about ;)

Alasdair
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Thanks mate will do :D
 
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avalore said:
We'd be happy to submit it to Apple on your behalf. Drop me a message and we can sort it out sharpish if you like.
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Thank you kind sir, i'll get something sorted sharpish :D
 
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As stated its $99 to become a registered Apple dev. You can actually download the SDK and the tools (XCode and IB) for free so you can develop and build against the simulator and *then* when your app is ready you can get your certificates and do an app store build.

Yes apple review and approve each app thats gets submitted, can take a couple of days to over a week.

If webby is your thing there are web frameworks that target iOS like sencha touch, appcelerator and phonegap.

Gary
 
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This is probably a stupid question but are there any WYSIWYG for making Apps, or is it a case of knowing the code or passing it over to a professional?
 
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There are a few companies offering a kind of click-through app creator system but the product generated is very "samey" and the options are quite limited. I believe AppMkr are one such business.

If you want something a bit out of the ordinary your best bet is to get in contact with a certified Apple developer (like Junari ;) )
 
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Not really, closest is Interface Builder on the mac for doing layouts. You can actually build simple apps on the device itself using Dapp which is on the app store.

Gary
(Yes I am an iOS dev)
 
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Hi All,

We have been looking at http://www.seattleclouds.com/ for a while, the functionality has come on a lot and good for static (and some dynamic content) has RSS features to syndicate news, twitter etc..

If you dont have a Apple Dev account, dont want to sign up and need a hand with the design and implementation, contact us for a quote

HTH

Mark Redman
 
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Hi guys,

We are professional app developers.

You would only need the $99 fee paid to Apple which gives you annual access to the Apple Developer Program.

This allows you to submit your apps (subject to stringent terms and approval) to their App Store.

This does mean you need to know objective-c and use their tools to build your apps which is a lot to take on board even if you are a developer.

There are many other solutions out there such as: Appmakr.com, Taplynx.com, ibuildapp.com

These allow you to use web solutions to build apps yourselfs (mainly US based though).

If anyone would like more information or would like to know more about our services get in touch or visit our website
 
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There are a couple of other options if you dont want to get quite into the Apple mindset and know a little web development:

  • Appcelerator Titantium
  • PhoneGap

Titanium outputs native code and is based upon Javascript style notation, whereas PhoneGap render using a Web view so its all HTML/CSS/Javascript

(sorry I dont have the rep to link yet Im afraid)
 
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