How we can stop global warming

[movietub]

To be frank our understanding is so weak that for all we know us releasing greehouse gases could in fact be delaying the current iceage that we don't want to return to full glory. Every single tonne of CO2 could be posposoning a planetary reset by a few years.

So on that basis, even the 'do what we can' argument falls down. We just arn't powerful enough to make or break anything on a plantary scale. It's quite big headed to think we are!


The bottom line is that our planet is not back in rude health until all the ice has melted and the temperature picks up by 2.5 degrees globally. Yellowstone is also way overdue, and we want it to go pop sooner rather than later if we are to hope that the species survives in meaningful qty's.

There are so many unknowns. All that we do know, is that any species who wants to safeguard themselves from planatary events, avoidable or otherwise, needs to set up camp off the planet. If we make that leap, then we are really safe - if not, we are hanging on a knife edge and always have been, no matter what we do.

 

[PrettyCherry1988]

The earth we now leave is becoming more and more warmer, we need to cut down the increase of carbon dioxide anp plant more trees to convert carbon dioxide to oxygen.

 

[Eco-girl]

I'm with you Movietub - what will be will be! The earth has been changing for many years. We complain that the last winter was the worst on record etc etc - no it wasn't. We only started keeping records in the 1800's anyway. Well that, on earth terms, was just a second ago. The earth is cooling down so it's going to change. There will be earthquakes and strange weather patterns and as the sun is changing too it will also affect us. Nothing we do will make much difference to that.
However...... I believe we should still sort ourselves out as far as using less chemicals is concerned. That is going to make our world so toxic we'll be long dead before the earth burns out - or freezes out. We chuck chemicals around like they're not going to come back and bite us - are we thick or what? Plastic bags that hang around for 1000 yrs polluting our seas, or worse degrade slowly in the ground so our crops can suck up the nice soup of chemicals. Not to mention the amount of chemicals which go down the drain from toiletries/cleaners etc. Don't get me started. Talk about a toxic world! If you've not heard of a Gyre have a look on Youtube - Pacific Garbage Dump.
Maybe it's already too late to do anything about it.

 

[Digger]

The answer to the question of the OP - is very simple.

STOP BREEDING LIKE RABBITS!!!!!!!!!!!!

the climate change wibble wobble will be like a sedate Vicars Tea party compared to the population chaos to come.

The great minds of the day would be better off concentrating their efforts in this direction rather than faffing around with tree rings.

Just a study of human nature will show this can only end badly.

civilisation is going to implode under it's own weight

 

[Eco-girl]

Well if anyone was watching James Lovelock on BBC4 documentary last night he kind of said it all. Really scary at the end when he said he reckoned we had between 10 and 100 years and the balance would tip climatically. And there's nothing we can do about it! Now that such large areas of the polar ice caps are melting so quickly we are basically headed down the pan He reckoned there would be less than 1bn people left by the end - if that!

 

[astutiumRob]

Another fact is that all major cities have contunally posted record breaking top temperatures in the past 2 decades

Billions of people are going to be displaced by global warming, it's a fact now.

During the 20th century, the earth warmed 0.6 degree Celsius (1 degree Fahrenheit), but that warming has been wiped out in a single year with a drop of 0.63 degree C. (1.13 F.) in 2007

"Global Warming" is simply the latest opiate-of-misinformation to stop the middle-class-dinner-party segment of society discovering independent thought - pay no attention to the man behind the curtain

Global temperatures are in *decline* on average - so we're back to the 30 year old idea of global cooling on the whole, although I'm simply behind the "English Weather Is Generally Cr@p" camp

 

[Eco-girl]

'the man behind the curtain'? In some cases, obviously. However Lovelock is an independent scientist and has no axe to grind. He admits he could be wrong but unfortunately all his other predictions have been uncannily right! As he sees it, the polar ice caps melting have a huge effect simply from the fact that they, being white and covering such a big area for a given length of time, reflected a significant amount of the sun's rays away from the earth, so keeping us cool. If they're gone then we heat up. Simple equation.

 

[Merchant UK]

'the man behind the curtain'? In some cases, obviously. However Lovelock is an independent scientist and has no axe to grind. He admits he could be wrong but unfortunately all his other predictions have been uncannily right! As he sees it, the polar ice caps melting have a huge effect simply from the fact that they, being white and covering such a big area for a given length of time, reflected a significant amount of the sun's rays away from the earth, so keeping us cool. If they're gone then we heat up. Simple equation.

if that was the cas then we'd do something about the earth without profiting and taxing people to the hilt. But unfornatly governments are using this as an excuse to rip us off to the tune of billions each year, and still with little or no effect on the whole outcome of global warming.

Lose the Taxes, the crimianal records and the fines and then people might just believe in global warming just a bit.

I don't seem to see many "Eco" people demonstating about criminalising decent normal people for leaving their bin lids open 25mm all in the name of global warming, But supporting "global warming as it is your also supporting the "Green Taxes" the fines and the criminalising of decent ordinary people.

 

[Eco-girl]

Governments have certainly jumped on the 'global warming' bandwagon with great glee. Look at all the jobs that have been created and the money it has brought in - doesn't mean it's not happening though. Joe Public will never actually ever be told the exact truth whatever's happening. I mean.... we might panic or worse, might take charge It's rediculous people being charged for not closing their bin properly or putting the wrong stuff in the wrong bin. You're not supposed to put out more bags than will fit in your bin but well, if you give the bin men a nice box of chocs at Christmas......... I have no problems

Personally I don't think our little contribution either to heating up the planet or trying not to heat it up will make a jot of difference. I do think we should still make the best of the resources we have though and not waste things so I'll still recycle and use degradable bags.

 

[Merchant UK]

Governments have certainly jumped on the 'global warming' bandwagon with great glee. Look at all the jobs that have been created and the money it has brought in

Yes! Global warming has made billions, enough for taxpayers to stump up 3 million per wind turbine which the government gives to EDF as a form of subsidy ( A French Company) who in turn charge us the most expensive Electricity in the whole of Europe, so yes there are loads of Chairmans and Shareholders getting extremely rich

Sorry but Green don't wash with me, i drive a landrover discovery, cos i like it, and i pay through the nose to have one, I just love leaving my lights on, and try my hardest to have the largest carbon footprint this side of russia

Our kids in 20 years time will laugh at the biggest scam of the last 30 years

 

[Eco-girl]

I just love leaving my lights on, and try my hardest to have the largest carbon footprint this side of russia

Our kids in 20 years time will laugh at the biggest scam of the last 30 years

Well.........don't know if your kids will be laughing at the mess we've made they're going to have to live in! We're using up resources fast. The oil will be gone in time. It's not going to last for ever. Coal is getting too deep to mine so how are you going to make electricity? Nuclear would probably be most sensible in a way but what do you do with the byproduct which is so lethal? We can't get rid of what we already have. Wind power is not as efficient or economical as water power (ie turbines under the water in a tow) but that wont keep us going. And then as I mentioned before, we have a toxic world now and getting worse year on year. We produce chemicals by the ton - and women can absorb up to 5lb in a year with makeup, shampoo, bodywash, perfume, deodorant etc.

Just because you believe global warming is a scam doesn't mean it's not happening. Are the polar ice caps melting? Yes. It can be proven. For them to melt so quickly can only be because the average temperature isn't cool enough to keep them frozen. I really don't think you leaving your lights on will make any difference to anyone or to the bigger picture - apart from your bills if you mean house lights However if everyone left the lights on in their houses all the time then the grid wouldn't be able to cope. So it is with everything else. If you waste it unnecessarily then don't expect it to be around for your kids or grandkids.

 

[Merchant UK]

Just because you believe global warming is a scam doesn't mean it's not happening. Are the polar ice caps melting? Yes. It can be proven. For them to melt so quickly can only be because the average temperature isn't cool enough to keep them frozen.

The earth evolves just like we do, 300 years ago, before the industrial revolution the earth was a greener place to live in, but now its changed and we have evolved too. I don't think anyone in their lifetime can damage the earth so much that it will not be able to repair itself, That happens all the time.

Life is to short to woryy about things like global warming, is mrs jones having an affair or other trivial matters.

if the worst did happen and oil ran out then we'd all be driving cars on Hydrogen, yes we already have cars that do, but they are owned by Oil based companies, believe me the minute oil runs out we will have a cleaner alternative. But oil is ££££££'s, Governments and oil companies know this and they continue to keep using it whilst its generating ££££'s

 

[Eco-girl]

Life is to short to woryy about things like global warming, is mrs jones having an affair or other trivial matters.

Really?????? You class global warming and someone having an affair as being on the same level? Are you serious? For one thing someone having an affair affects probably half a dozen people - at most. Global warming whether it is affected by what we do or not, affects everyone.

And yes, we will evolve and change as the earth changes, of course we will. We'll find other fuel and we'll change the way we eat etc etc. but it rather depends on how quickly the warming takes place as to whether we can evolve fast enough to keep up. If it becomes too hot to live in the equatorial regions over 5-10 years then those people will migrate to the temperate regions. There will be billions of people occupying these areas and no way of feeding them. Also if the sea does rise that will compound the problem as there will be less land to grow food anyway. Since we're poisoning the seas too, that doesn't leave a lot of choice, does it?

 

[commercialtransfer1]

Wharever you believe is true about climate change, I wholeheartedley agree that we are/have been wasteful in respect of the planets finite resources.

I also know that there is a great deal of lip service paid to environmental issues, and larger organisations can afford to 'green themselves up' to appear to be highly conscientious.
Along with some councils who limit the number of bins available per household and only collect every two weeks which only means long queues on a week-end at the local tip (sorry recycling centre!) I hate to think the amount of extra fuel used not to mention adding to traffic and pollution.

Protecting the environment or natural resources is a very complex process and dumping your old 'gas guzler for a brand new 'eco friendly model' is not the answer-think how much resource has gone into the new car!

Yes, it's real. It's been warming up since the Ice Age ended. What I don't believe is real is that Man has any significant impact on it.

Don't get me wrong, we should reduce our affect on the environment as much as we possibly can, in all ways. Living sustainably is common sense and our gross consumerism goes against all we know is good and wise. But believing we have made a big impact and we can change it back, focusing on very specific pollutants (CO2) rather than them all, and using it all as an excuse to tax us is stupid in the extreme.

The recent recession and lack of security has made us less willing to pay more for so-called "green" products while, ironically, reducing our comsumption in many cases.

 

[Eco-girl]

I'm up in Scotland so we've had collections once a fortnight for quite a while now. One week is recycling week and the next is the ordinary bin. I sometimes only need to put mine out once a month - not that I'm being very green really but I got a composter and a green cone so a lot of the stuff that used to go in the bin now goes into the cone or composter so I get nice compost that I don't need to pay for.

You're right of course, the companies do jump at green issues as a way to appear conscientious - like Tesco wanting to put wind turbines out the front of some of their stores. Their sign is big enough thank you very much!

I don't think anyone is saying someone should dump their 'gas-guzzler' but perhaps when you come to change your car just choose one that people can see past at a junction or when you're reversing out of a parking space at the supermarket and which doesn't need to take up 2 spaces because it's so big you don't want it to get scratched Nobody actually needs an American sized car over here - unless you're a farmer or doing off-road stuff maybe. Mrs Jones with a massive car she can't reverse or manoeuvre particularly well who only uses it to take the kids to school and get her shopping is just daft. It's just a status symbol I think. It's more expensive to run and to repair and although it may be safer for the 1 person in it, it's a nightmare for everyone else. Rant over

 

[Digger]

A Prius actually gas guzzles as much as say-- a BMW 5 SERIES - Nooo a real gas guzzler would be something like a Corvette Stingray circa 1960 - 17 miles to the G - but my oh my what a sound!

So it's 4 X 4 you have a problem with really - the sh"cool" run cliche' - with the bobbed haircut and BIG sun glassed up yummy mummies at the wheel cause me no end of mirth - seems even the rich don't realise they have insecurity on show and a need to belong to a gang, whilst thinking they are giving some kind of fashion statement and being unique.Don't they see it? All very weird

breaks up the monotony of the day I suppose.

 

[Eco-girl]

I must admit I do smile when they get stuck and can't reverse into a space - ok if there's a wall behind them but if there's a normal sized car It's just BIG I don't get. 4x4 or not.

Why oh why do we have to copy the good old USA all the time? Can't we just be us anymore? They have something so we want it too. Whether it's big cars or portion sizes. We used to be world leaders but now we just follow on like sheep. We used to laugh at the size of Americans and wondered how they managed to get so big - pity someone didn't actually try and find out why before all the fast food outlets opened up in every town and Coke got a choke hold Don't get me started on the size of our cakes now compared to what they were even 15 years ago. No wonder people are getting fat. We think we're getting value for money because we get a huge cake for £1 or a massive plate of food (which would actually feed 2 easily) for just a little more than a half size portion. We're so gullable it's scary.

Sorry I digressed from the actual thread. To bring it back to subject, the same sort of thing applies to the amount of washing up liquid/shower gel etc etc everyone is encouraged to use via advertising. You see this guy in the shower absolutely covered in suds, so he must be clean right? Well I would hope so since he's used half the bottle and it's mainly made up of SLS (sodium laurel sulphate) which is basically used as an engine degreaser and is just a cheap foaming agent. Lots of suds and all the natural oils out of your skin - that's probably why loads of people have itchy skin/eczema/psoriasis etc. Plus all of that is going straight down the drain and into our water system. Who knows what all those chemicals are doing to the environment once they're out there. They have all been tested of course maybe - but not in combination - only individually. So no-one actually knows what they all do in combination. They believe they know a certain amount is safe to use, so if you have less than that amount in say, a shower gel that you use all year you'll still be safe enough - but they don't take into account all the other products containing the same chemical you put on your skin. Shampoo, toothpaste, shaving foam, moisturiser, cleanser, toner, makeup etc etc. It's really scary when you look into it. Check out the cosmetic database on google and you can check out your own products to see what's in them - if you dare!

 

[commercialtransfer1]

Hi,
Yes I agree the 4x 4 school run is a joke and a lot of them seem to park as close as they can to the school gates which is dangerous.

As commercial removers we use large 17tonne pantechnicons which are regularly maintained and using optimised journey planning and satelite monitoring we can reduce our diesel usage.

When we have to replace a vehicle or add to the fleet we carefully consider all the options available at that time.

We have looked into alternative fuels but as others have mentioned bio fuels have a detremental effect on indigenous populations which are forced to grow them instead of food crops and there seems to be many conflicting arguments over sustainability and other emmissions.
Electric vehicles also have their own impact regarding battery manufacture, and although there have been some recent developments with larger vehices, they are extremely expensive.

Surprisingly, perhaps to some, our mileage is not that high due to the fact that once the lorry arrives at the loading point it is stationery as it is at the offloading site and is not constantly on the road.

 

[markmax]

Hi,
These are some tips that will help you to stop global warming.

1. Replace a regular incandescent light bulb with a compact fluorescent light bulb

2. Install a programmable thermostat
3. Clean or replace filters on your furnace and air conditioner
4. Do not leave appliances on standby
5. Don't let heat escape from your house over a long period
6. Defrost old fridges and freezers regularly

 

[sbdongdong]

Reduce carbon emissions, and less panting, ha ha, a joke.

 

[utilitiessavings]

I have to say it's rather nice to see some educated voices popping up on the 'denier' side of the debate for once. It's so easy to scream "WE NEED TO SAVE THE PLANET!!" to make yourself feel good.

Obviously as I am in the business of energy I am on neither side of the debate, ahem... but I will say to anyone who wants to learn about 'climate change', to go to wattsupwiththat.com and also check out the 35 errors in An Inconvenient Truth - a film made by a politician that shortly after he said the seas would rise by 6 meters, bought a house 10 meters from the shore.

 

[utilitiessavings]

I just want to make sure I don't offend anyone with my first remark in my last post. If you think anthropogenic global warming is real, then no problem.

I do have a problem with people who have done none of their own research on the subject and just regurgitate the rubbish they read in the papers.

 

[utilitiessavings]

LOL, if you actually look into it in depth though, even that was blown out of proportion, it was a non-story that was clung to in a way that would make any limpet very proud

If you believe that then you are naive - http://wattsupwiththat.com/climategate/

Have a look at that in depth. Won so many awards that site.

 

[AdamJ]

And with the inevitability of the moon circling the earth, more 4x4 craziness arrives:

just choose one that people can see past at a junction or when you're reversing out of a parking space at the supermarket

So do you also mean mum-favourites like the Renault Scenic, Vauhxall Zafira, various Citroens, Mazda 5, Ford C-Max, etc. as well as their bigger cousins like the S-Max, or just SUVs, despite most 4x4's being no bigger? Personally I'd ban evey car with a child-seat fitted from the road as that all to often that just says "I can't drive very well" to me, but that's just my own pet prejudice

and which doesn't need to take up 2 spaces because it's so big you don't want it to get scratched

My neighbour has a new Mini and you definitely don't want to go to any public car park with him as he parks as far away from other cars as possible. The problem with getting a car accidentally scratched in a public car park isn't because an SUV is too big, its because most of the public are self-centred ********s who happily shove their doors open into other cars, or walk down the gap between two cars dangling handbags or shopping bags and don't care about scratching someone else's car.

Nobody actually needs an American sized car over here - unless you're a farmer or doing off-road stuff maybe. Mrs Jones with a massive car she can't reverse or manoeuvre particularly well who only uses it to take the kids to school and get her shopping is just daft. It's just a status symbol I think.

Rather than just looking to see if they've been green laning in it, maybe check to see if there is a towbar on the back? If you have a big caravan, trailer, etc. and want to reduce the risks when towing then a big SUV is the way to go. Car manufacturer's give somewhat fanciful and inflated safe towing weights, whereas What Car recommend 85% of the car's kerbweight, which rules out a lot of hatchbacks and estates for even mid-sized caravans, not that this stops people towing with them as they usually go on what the handbook says.

As for the status symbol - really? A Kia Sorento or a Hyundai Santa Fe (two of the biggest selling 4x4s) are a status symbol? They're about as status-like as whipping out your Aldi loyalty card.

It's more expensive to run and to repair and although it may be safer for the 1 person in it, it's a nightmare for everyone else. Rant over

No its not - that's nonsense. A lot of 4x4s are no more expensive to run or repair than many other cars. And anyone who buys a 4x4 just to "be safe" is a numpty idiot who should have their ability to choose their own car taken off them - size is not the ultimate factor in car safety. If its big but built like an iron bar its going to hurt when you crash, whereas if its small and crumples you may walk away.

 

[utilitiessavings]

It's just power on the road - you sit higher up, feel safer, and you can ram other drivers out of the way when you are bigger than them.

Basically the car equivalent of being a rich bully.

 

[vvaannmmaann]

It's just power on the road - you sit higher up, feel safer, and you can ram other drivers out of the way when you are bigger than them.

Basically the car equivalent of being a rich bully.

You've been to New Malden then?

 

[AdamJ]

Basically the car equivalent of being a rich bully.

What's price or being rich got to do with it? There is no link whatsoever between 4x4s and being rich or them having a high cost to buy and run.

 

[Digger]

Without checking the figures - but you make a perhaps a valid point about SUV/ 4 X4 towing .
As surely by taking their holibobs at home, they aren't sitting in a jet churning up the vast amounts of C02 nipping over to DisneyLand USA.

This phoney war against the SUV is nothing more than envy - IMHO.

I have kiddy seat in my car - not half as much fun for my baby as I had sliding up and down my dads old Zephyr's leather bench seat.

Worlds gone soft

 

[Clement]

no fart...............

 

[Eco-girl]

Thank you! Also the ones with the bars on the front don't give pedestrians a chance if they are hit by one. I seem to remember reading somewhere that bumpers were made to be around knee height for a reason?

By the way, there are very few BIG cars with tow bars on that I've seen - mind you I am in Scotland so there aren't that many caravaners up here either too cold! Maybe with climate warming....................????

 

[Merchant UK]

To stop Global warming is not a one man or one country show. We, individually have to take initiatives on our own. As a Realtor, I am trying to renovate properties in a way that they use less Power and cut down the dependency of a house on natural resources. And this is working...

Great Idea,

I've been trying so hard to get Electricity Banned in the UK as this will use up a lot of CO2, Couple with scrapping all road transport, i feel going back to the 17th century is the definate way to go

 

[Merchant UK]

Ya! But that's not possible practically.. But we can save the rain forests which will reduce presence of CO2 in atmosphere.
{Save The Rain Forests}

The thing is we can't save the rain forests because its in a different country and i guess an email from me ain't gonna make much difference. The problem is that people in these 3rd world countries hare having a tough time living in the present let alone worrying about the future.

We should perhaps send come of our Council Inspectors and their fines book to south america and they can fine people for leaving their bin lids opens, all in the name of global warming

This whole issue as gotten so much out of hand with the Government in the UK using the "Green" route to raise taxes and make money, its a wonder people are already getting fed up with the whole idea. Yes i guess deep down in our hearts we want to do something but not at the expense of raising revenue for the government who hardly spend anything on Global Warming because whatever we do in the UK is not even 0.1% of what the whole world could do. So what do we do??

Wind Turbines cost a whopping 11 million quid each, Mostly paid by the tax payers, so did we get FREE Electric??? I think not, we give these Green grants to EDF who now own the bulk of UK windfarms and charge us the dearest electric in Europe

And theres talk of putting up more of these non reliable windfarms. Someone is getting VERY RICH here and its not us the consumers.

 

[skiesnpies]

Wind Turbines cost a whopping 11 million quid each, Mostly paid by the tax payers, so did we get FREE Electric??? I think not, we give these Green grants to EDF who now own the bulk of UK windfarms and charge us the dearest electric in Europe

And theres talk of putting up more of these non reliable windfarms. Someone is getting VERY RICH here and its not us the consumers.

Turbines are NOT paid for by the tax payer, where did you get that from? The developers fully fund them? And I have seen some for £3-4K

Non reliable? The ones I have had personal involvement in have churned out stacks of electrickery.

 

[Eco-girl]

I believe water turbines are more productive and more reliable - however you can't see them and companies do like to show off how 'green' they are being so tend to prefer the wind ones. I think the small wind turbines are fine for individuals if you want to go down that route but these massive ones are an eyesore

 

[skiesnpies]

Small wind turbines can be very uneffective unfortunately - its one of those things where bigger works better.

The eyesore is really very subjective, they certainly are less intrusive than cooling towers!

 

[DJL King]

I agree with what wecandobiz says.
I have done my own straw poll asking people if they know about the CO2 problem (they all have) and then I ask them - so what do you think the percentage of carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere? They always look surprised, they had never considered it! This question has been asked of non-science professors, Cambridge undergraduates, aged relatives, yuppies, the man who did the MOT on my car, - you get the picture.
Answers ranged from 5 to 80% when the answer is 0.04% - so low it's amazing plants can photosynthesise!
There are many valid reasons to conserve resources but the real villains of global warming are water vapour (not much we can about that!) and methane hydrates in the ocean and under the permafrost. Not forgetting periodic changes in the sun's output! Water vapour has a weaker effect but there is so much of it, methane (according to New Scientist article) is now considered to be 35 times as effective in climate warming than CO2. So don't encourage milk, cheese, or meat production.......
The pressure for ships to burn clean diesel seems to have gone away since it was realised that the sulphur dioxide generated by their cheapo high sulphur fuel has the opposite effect to carbon dioxide. But that causes acid rain.
People generally and politicians in particular are so ignorant about science, mathematics and the concept of "base line probability" that they can be easily manipulated by vested interests.
Control of societies is predicated on anxiety and guilt - real or imagined - generated by well-meaning but ignorant, cynical, or sociopathic zealots. But that's how any religion operates, isn't it?
One last thing - after they realise the CO2 in the air they breathe is only 0.04%, what percentage is in exhaled breath? Again, crazy answers, but the right one is 4%. 100 times as much. So it should be easy for anyone to work out how far a car can go in a day and generate as much CO2 as you do just by breathing. And I am so old I must qualify as a fossil fuel.

 

[skiesnpies]

In the same way as religion fails to point out many realities for its own purposes, the above post fails to mention several important facts and uses odd diversions.

For example why is the amount of CO2 we breathe out in anyway relevant to the point made? Presumably because it then makes the atmospheric CO2 concentrations look very low and harmless - which is very very flawed logic.

- CO2 levels are rising incredibly rapidly and not by trivial %'s- this is easily measured and not really disputed by anyone. They are at their highest level for hundreds of thousands of years, and have got to this level in little over 100 years.

- While concentrations are low in comparison to O2 levels, CO2 is an insulating gas (provable in a school science lab) and increases in concentrations WILL increase temperatures - no doubt about that, the only question is about how much.

- The idea that because Joe Public think there is a lot of CO2 and in reality there is only 0.04% therefore there isn't a problem is again very very odd logic. It all depends on what that 0.04% does, the quantity doesn't' matter, even if it was 0.00004% - if it causes a problem, it will still cause a problem whatever the public think.

- While methane IS bad, it is short lived in the atmosphere, CO2 has less of a warming effect but hangs around for a long time so it shouldn't become sidelined by methane - both are bad.

The idea that water vapour is the real villain ???? We would freeze to death without it??? Life on earth depends on it???

We live in a delicate balance and of course there are many natural factors involved in our climate - in addition to the ones we add into the mix ourselves. But the existence of natural factors doesn't negate our own impacts, even if our own impacts may appear smaller. By FAR the majority of scientists believe we are dangerously impacting our own climate. By FAR the majority of climate change conspiracy theorists and cranks don't. Myself, I favour science.

 

[harryhunk]

Global Warming is a dramatically urgent and big problem in present. We don't need to wait for governments to find a solution for this problem. Use eco-friendly products, environmental services, and renewable energy sources to reduce greenhouse emissions that cause Global Warming.

 

[Merchant UK]

Global Warming is a dramatically urgent and big problem in present. We don't need to wait for governments to find a solution for this problem. Use eco-friendly products, environmental services, and renewable energy sources to reduce greenhouse emissions that cause Global Warming.

Its gonna get worst and what do they compare it with?? The 17th century, do they compare it with the time before the industrial revolution?? Its a fact things like CO2 do increase, but so does the depenancy with living in the modern age. if we really wanted to stop Global warming we'd ban air travel, we'd ban containter ships burning "Bunker Fuel"

Come on get real if we wanted to stop it we could. The fact remains that whilst the governments try and scare us they can keep taxing us.

Just using recycled copier paper or turning your TV off as opposed to leaving it on standby is not going to make a spot of difference to whats happening in the world if countries like china, india and the US, and Russia have no interest in doing the same.

Recycled stuff should be cheaper but in the UK its often dearer, so thats a no go

 

[movietub]

Its gonna get worst and what do they compare it with?? The 17th century, do they compare it with the time before the industrial revolution?? Its a fact things like CO2 do increase, but so does the depenancy with living in the modern age. if we really wanted to stop Global warming we'd ban air travel, we'd ban containter ships burning "Bunker Fuel"

Come on get real if we wanted to stop it we could. The fact remains that whilst the governments try and scare us they can keep taxing us.

Just using recycled copier paper or turning your TV off as opposed to leaving it on standby is not going to make a spot of difference to whats happening in the world if countries like china, india and the US, and Russia have no interest in doing the same.

Recycled stuff should be cheaper but in the UK its often dearer, so thats a no go

Actually banning air travel would be completely insignificant. However, if we banned all human activities (other than eating) that produced CO2, we would still barely impact global warming. Global warming is not man-made, it's natural. It will naturally kill a lot of people, that's just what happens as planets adjust and alter - big things happen.

We are still coming out of an ice age - why on earth (literally) would you want to stop the planet warming to it's more comfortable state? Just because it inconveniences our short lived species for a microscopically short period of time?