How we can stop global warming

[hmmm]

thats not including whats in the sea and being thrown out in other natural areas..........
we are to small and cannot stop the might of the earth

 

[MASSEY]

which is why all the trees from many moons ago under the ice that are now being exposed due to the melts are throwing theirs back into the atmosphere. far more than we are doing.....all the "5hit" from yester year in those trees and land are coming out of them now

to me this makes perfect logic METHANE

I doubt it's from the trees them self it's probably just trapped methane when the ice formed.

thats not including whats in the sea and being thrown out in other natural areas..........
we are to small and cannot stop the might of the earth

I can see where your coming from but i would still think in the last 200 years life on earth has created more pollution that the earth it's self. Just remember how long they burnt coal etc. They only not too long ago sorted out power station emissions. Rubbish has been pumped into the air for a long long time by humans.

 

[hmmm]

in terms of the iceland volcano last year.how many power stations worth of rubbish did it throw out?
i dont know but i guess if the math is done it would be alot. thats just one volcano and one blast....
we have many volcanoes going off at anyone time. i do believe that over 2000 nukes going off in the world doesnt help either and all the pollution we make. but at the same time i still feel that we really cant stop what ever the earth is doing and what ever is goingon outside our earth that may also be contributing to it also

 

[hmmm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_A3x8E9dJU

 

[Esk247]

I can see where your coming from but i would still think in the last 200 years life on earth has created more pollution that the earth it's self. Just remember how long they burnt coal etc. They only not too long ago sorted out power station emissions. Rubbish has been pumped into the air for a long long time by humans.

well exactly but isn't it India who are building dozens of new coal fired power stations?

like i say...we all have to be in it to win it..unfortunately i bet that less than 5% of the population are in it, the rest are just carrying on as normal.

we may be able to preserve life for a little longer but ultimately it seems futile when you realise just how insignificant we are as a species...

 

[Swisaw]

My new invetion, A Better Cookware, reduces energy needed per cooking session at least by half. Now when this new heat-efficient cookware used in every kitchen, the cause of global warming should be reduced on large scale.

 

[bloger]

We must begin to use renewable energy sources such as solar, wind and biomass

 

[hwglassuk]

we can stop global warming because it is in our hands. we can increase warming hence we can stop as well.its duty fro all individual people to understand their role towards nature and God gifted natural thingd

 

[bloger]

I think it's time to dois to oil crosses in an alternative fuel, oil more expensive and polluting nature

 

[hmmm]

cant stop it !

 

[garytulley]

cant stop it !

Your ignorance is actually quite amusing You can continue thinking that you are so small that you are nothing if you wish and yeah we may only occupie a small area of land mass but it's the smallest details that make up the big picture.

We are as much a apart of the life cycle of this earth as any other lifeform on this planet. If tress have the power to cool the earth by removing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere over a period of 100s of 1,000 of years, something you agree with as it is a natual occurance then how come you find it so hard to believe we make a difference considering how much CO2 we unleash into our atmosphere. Not only that, we are chopping down the one thing that would convert it back to oxygen. Therefor increasing it's effect even further.

Changes that would take 1,000s of years natually are happening over a period of around 200 years. Did the planet suddenly decide during our period of industrialisation that it would jump closer to the Sun and make it warmer or it thought "oh I know, I'll suddenly unleash large amounts of greenhouse gasses and heat myself up and make changes to my composition faster then I ever have before"

 

[hmmm]

the natural happenings are burning the land and trees flooding them and will continue to do so.it did it before man came along and threw his pennies worth into the mix and it will do it after.
next youll be telling me we wont be able to breath if the trees all go...

it had an ice age before man came along polluting and im sure it got warmer on its own also.

you can only call it igroance if you can prove to me beyond any doubt that we can change things and that we are the cause

history tells me its not us.history to do with weather, land ,sea and major changes tells me also its not us..now this is just my opinion and thats all.
we could argue why did the ice melt in the first place before humans played with the ozone?

maybe it was the dinosuars fault ,all that huge poo throwing methane of into the sky .
yes lets blame them.a bit like the pigs of today
thats the funniest thing ive ever heard..pigs causing global warming with there poo hahahahaahahahahaaha

heres a question or 2 for you.

if we all turned our lights of used less power and did all the things we think we should do.do you expect the ice to start coming back?

how much natural co2 is in the earth.the whole of the earth,this includes everywhere then take out the man made stuff.so everything from underground , all the sea and the land?

the earth is living breathing and sun bathing.it knows what it is doing

 

[hmmm]

the natural happenings are burning the land and trees flooding them and will continue to do so.it did it before man came along and threw his pennies worth into the mix and it will do it after.
next youll be telling me we wont be able to breath if the trees all go...

it had an ice age before man came along polluting and im sure it got warmer on its own also.

you can only call it igroance if you can prove to me beyond any doubt that we can change things and that we are the cause

history tells me its not us.history to do with weather, land ,sea and major changes tells me also its not us..now this is just my opinion and thats all.
we could argue why did the ice melt in the first place before humans played with the ozone?

maybe it was the dinosuars fault ,all that huge poo throwing methane of into the sky .
yes lets blame them.a bit like the pigs of today
thats the funniest thing ive ever heard..pigs causing global warming with there poo hahahahaahahahahaaha

heres a question or 2 for you.

if we all turned our lights of used less power and did all the things we think we should do.do you expect the ice to start coming back?

how much natural co2 is in the earth.the whole of the earth,this includes everywhere then take out the man made stuff.so everything from underground , all the sea and the land?

the earth is living breathing and sun bathing.it knows what it is doing

i believe the reason its happening quickly is because thats what it does at a certain stage,,if you look back in history ice ages were rapid

 

[MASSEY]

pigs causing global warming with there poo hahahahaahahahahaaha

It's called methane which is a contribution to global warming.

Your adding to the argument that life on earth is warming the earth at a quicker rate than earth does on it's own.

 

[hmmm]

im so not.............
do you really believe the pigs are not helping.....
my gosh .i thought we were supposed to be gaining brains as time passed ..seems to me as some are going backwards
so do you suggest we make pigs extinct?
its a joke to even mention them in any global warming scenario

 

[MASSEY]

im so not.............
do you really believe the pigs are not helping.....
my gosh .i thought we were supposed to be gaining brains as time passed ..seems to me as some are going backwards
so do you suggest we make pigs extinct?
its a joke to even mention them in any global warming scenario

Pigs have as much right to be here as us. But the earth and physical life are two different things.

 

[hmmm]

pigs do not harm or have any effects on the earth to warrant a mention in any convo about the cycle of earths global warming...... period


unless your an investor in GM pigs

 

[MASSEY]

pigs do not harm or have any effects on the earth to warrant a mention in any convo about the cycle of earths global warming...... period


unless your an investor in GM pigs

Yes they do. Because it's not just pigs .

You don't understand the full extent of what the pollution of life on earth does. Livestock pollution is large and ofcourse worth mentioning in ANY convo.

Problems begin when the layer of greenhouse gases gets too thick and traps too much heat. This is called 'global warming'.
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It's now a proven fact that our planet is warming up very quickly. And, most scientists agree that this is because of greenhouse gases, including methane. Which takes us back to our farting farm animals.

 

[hmmm]

sorry but i truly cannot believe this yarn that pigs are damaging the earth...

the world is warming up that truly is fact.
not because of pigs in any shape or form
theres is in my mind without question that this earth needs methane in the atmosphere.
its been pumping the stuff up into it for since time began and will continue way after we are long gone
im afraid some of the men in white suits of now,will in future times be looked at in such way as we look at those that said the earth was flat...


where is the logic here?

pigs hahahahaha thats so funny..

but anyway some time in the not to distant future you wont need to worry about the pigs as you will be eating GM ONES EARTH FRIENDLY ha

so as humans "fart" and poo suppose we will be next.
a GM human, made in the image of humans

very god like......

 

[garytulley]

Massey does have a point, cows for one release alot of methane into the air and how many of them do we have stock piled all around the world.

But they aren't as big a contributor as our power stations, cars, airplanes and boats pumping out CO2 faster then our trees can turn it back into oxygen.

I find it funny how you're insulting our intelligence just because we don't share your views on global warming. Oh well, I'm out of this convo, I'm done wasting my time talking to someone that isn't even willing to listen to others.

 

[hmmm]

Massey does have a point, cows for one release alot of methane into the air and how many of them do we have stock piled all around the world.

But they aren't as big a contributor as our power stations, cars, airplanes and boats pumping out CO2 faster then our trees can turn it back into oxygen.

I find it funny how you're insulting our intelligence just because we don't share your views on global warming. Oh well, I'm out of this convo, I'm done wasting my time talking to someone that isn't even willing to listen to others.

how can you say im not listening?
your writing im replying.i could argue your not listening.

the logic of bringing animals into this is no logic at all its daft.
yes they do trump but come on you seriously think its worth mentioning them?
they are not a big contributer at all.at all.
for all we know this could be normal.the time weve spent looking into all this is minute so measure is hard..


do you know how much methane is coming from all the natural sources?
do you know how much is coming from now exposed land that was once covered in ice?
its huge amounts.huge.
now im no scientist but again logic tell me those places were once not covered in ice..so where was the ice before? was it somewhere else or was it no where?
if it was some where else then i guess this has all happened before in terms of warming up and huge methane increases.
if it wasnt there then i guess the world was a lot warmer than now.

so to me either way its normal.

im not saying dont look after this place and pollute it.
we should look after it ..but i will say is imo you cannot stop what the earth is doing and maybe see that really nature is the one doing things that it has always done for one reason or another.
through history there has been natural "disaster" and i only use that word as we call it disaster as if it effects us then thats what we call it ,but to me its natural earth doing its thing which is a natural as your or i doing human things to live from day to day..

im willing to debate this and see no reason why you would want to stop just because i give you something to think about not to your liking


i also think that if we try to stop something that is naturally happening then the result could possibly be even worse ....but as i say we are to small to stop mother earth doing what it want to do to keep its own survival..its a living entity

 

[garytulley]

Because you are saying that we have basically no effect when it's plainly obvious that we are, yeah natual cycles do occur where the temperature rises and falls and yes ice caps may melt in a short period of time, then again so does your freeza if you unplug it.

Ice melting quickly doesn't really support your case as a change of 1 degree could mean the difference between water and ice. I've already agreed with you that the earth goes through natual cycles but when scientist find evidence that there is more CO2 in the air then there has been in the past 100K years and it has appeared in our atmosphere faster then ever recorded natually it kinda sets alarm bells ringing.

Scientists have even made a graph on how much we have effected the global temperatures for the last 200 years, at the begining of the graph there isn't much difference between the nautual line and our influence but when you look at the past 100 years you notice the difference and why? Because our industry on our planet is booming on the most part.

I'm not denying that natual sources on our planet contribute to global warming but I believe we are speeding it up and rapidly. Everything you do in life has a knockon effect regardless of how small it may seem. People seem to think that a tiny change doesn't make a difference. Well I'm sorry but it does, every single change makes a difference.

 

[hmmm]

its still not fact beyond doubt....
100k years is not a long time in reality of the earth.........
it still does not mean its not normal...
i also doubt the 100k years that they speak of. it is not fact beyond doubt..they could be right but they also could be very wrong...
but to me either way you or i or together we cant stop it imo

 

[AdamJ]

One of the most-used reports into the effects of climate change was done by Norman Myers in which he predicted 50 million people would become refugees due to climate change. This prediction was repeated by governments the world over, by the UN, by the IPCC and many many other academic bodies. And the date for this enforced mass migration? 2010. So where are they?

At most to date there is a proven migration due to sea level rise of less than 1000 (see this month's New Scientist). Migrations due to storms (e.g. New Orleans), tsunami's (e.g. Asia) or floods (e.g. Pakistan this year) are NOT attributed to climate change (again, see this month's New Scientist) as they are single events with no provable link to ongoing change.

So we have a repeated prediction of 50 million refugees by last year rather than at some indefinable point in the future, and a proven effect of 1000. Maybe the case was over-stated a little?

 

[garytulley]

First time I've ever heard of this prediction. It'll take longer then a couple of years before we start seeing an effect where people have to migrate because of global warming.

In fact many scientists have said that we wont see a major change for at least 40 - 50 years but by that point it will be too late, we've set off a snowball in motion and although it's only growing slowly now, once it reaches a certain tipping point the changes wont just be small.

Who ever you got your prediction from needs a good slap with a wet fish.

@hmmm: Me and you alone wouldn't be able to stop it but it we work together as a planet we can achieve many great things. May require people to stop blowing each other up and work together though.

 

[Esk247]

May require people to stop blowing each other up and work together though.

we're all stuffed then aren't we.

 

[hmmm]

yes we are screwed thats the one thing i do agree with.
the 50 million or more thing is a very possible happening for one reason or other...
weather is effecting everything right now ,food, homes life itself,record temperatures ,snow heat, rain,earthquakes here there and everywhere...tho the end of the world is not any where near i personally see an end to the world that we know now..
there are many factors that contribute to this and a major one is outside of this egg.
the sun .the galactic plane , the change in procession,magnetic wandering and many more.though these things i cannot prove without doubt and are just my opinion from looking at history .to have a good idea of future, history is a great guide even if not very pleasant to look at ....

 

[AdamJ]

Who ever you got your prediction from needs a good slap with a wet fish.

I agree it is nonsense, which was my point, but that is the figure used by the UN in its pronouncements on the subject, it was a main figure quoted in the Stern report in the 'Economics of Climate Change' study, it is used by Friends of the Earth, Greenpeace and people who should know better such as the UNHCR and Council of Europe.

So lots of people quoting it as proof of iminent action being needed, even though subsequent studies by other people into it have found it to have pretty much no factual basis. Yet it still has a heavy influence on the 'we must act strongly and act now' philosophy.

*edit: I would give a link to the rather interesting New Scientist article on it but they have hidden their website behind a paywall so its no use. The article isn't against climate change at all, in fact comes out that it is real, but is well balanced in highlighting a lot of nonsense churned out about it.

 

[hmmm]

its a money making machine

 

[garytulley]

Well we're not as the changes wont be that drastic in our lifetime It's our children and their children that will pay the price.

Will no one think of the children!!

It had to be done.

 

[hmmm]

i constantly worry for my children and theres as i no whats coming and am powerless to stop it..
it does involve us ,we are being effected as we type

 

[garytulley]

I know it involves us, I was just trying to make a funny remark Seems I'm not very good at them If at first you don't succeed, try and try again.

I don't have any children at the moment thank god, I'll wait untill I am older for them I'm only a young whipper snapper myself (24 yes that's young in my books)

 

[hmmm]

looks like you wont be having any then
we doomed man

i dont see the north pole melt causing any big floods of note.its just to small. antartic thats a different story..
as that melts im guessing we will see a major re-write of our history when we see whats under that ice

 

[garytulley]

I'll be spreading my DNA, if it's the last thing I ever do.

We're not completely doomed, the human race has a nack of waiting till the last minute to solve things Worst comes to worse we can always burrow underground like our great great ancestors.

Well we don't have to live underground, I just like the idea of living in caves/caverns.

 

[hmmm]

I'll be spreading my DNA, if it's the last thing I ever do.

We're not completely doomed, the human race has a nack of waiting till the last minute to solve things Worst comes to worse we can always burrow underground like our great great ancestors.

Well we don't have to live underground, I just like the idea of living in caves/caverns.

ye spread it around even if you miss the right spot ha
completely doomed no thats possibly true but many maybe which is the true nature of discussion.
its a game of pot luck underground overground........
no point worrying though i guess..enjoy each day .
but i dont like the money making scams of pretending such things as heat energy efficient glass in windows actually does anything considering people open there windows and still use the heating as normal..those type of things and making you get certificates and paying for them just do my sweed in..
scamsters imo

 

[garytulley]

Yeah it will be interesting to see what is under that ice, who knows, there might be perfect remains of some dinosaurs or something undiscovered that has never been thought of before. In a way it's kinda exciting

 

[Gint]

I think it is nearly impossible to stop global warming. People count is growing. We use more and more resources. It will come a day when we will destruct ourself.

 

[hmmm]

Yeah it will be interesting to see what is under that ice, who knows, there might be perfect remains of some dinosaurs or something undiscovered that has never been thought of before. In a way it's kinda exciting

or a giant........
remains of humans
buildings of past times
and no doubt animals/mammals/ dinos

 

[hmmm]

I think it is nearly impossible to stop global warming. People count is growing. We use more and more resources. It will come a day when we will destruct ourself.

only war ,famine , weather and earth the sun and things in space ie comets, ,arrival of certain named planets can stop us..
is see war the only thing that resembles anything to do with killing ourselves.

unless the power that be decide its time to cull the crowd.....

 

[hmmm]

Hi...
If we decrease air polution & saving trees then we can stop global warning.

really ?
i got a question
the whole of the earth,take away the sea the desert and anywhere else theres NO trees.then put all the trees in one place .how much space do they occupy ?
how many trees does it take to keep the earth running with oxygen?
in the ice age how many trees were there?