Diabetes

[Blaby Loyal]

God that must be so frustrating.

May I make a suggestion. Whether you are diabetic or pre-diabetic, a change of lifestyle may be a good thing anyway? Perhaps look at it like that until you can ask for a formal referral to a specialist, and perhaps participate in the programme anyway?

Yep - almost certainly. I've lost about 6lbs since this time last week. If I lose the same again I could drop below 15st for the first time since I was about 8 years old!

The dog isn't too keen on the new walking regime though.

 

[Gordon - Commercial Finance]

The dog isn't too keen on the new walking regime though.

Take mine - she needs more walking.

Should warn you, she's a Doberman. Very high energy.

 

[Blaby Loyal]

Lovely dogs. I had a rescue one - Prince - in 1991. Ran off in a country park and I never saw him again.

Got a 75kgs male Boerboel now. Everyday is pure comedy.

 

[Gordon - Commercial Finance]

Got a 75kgs male Boerboel now. Everyday is pure comedy.

Good grief. I thought I had my hands full with a 35kg Dobe. She is smashing though.

 

[Ian J]

I'm not diabetic based on those scales as both blood tests were non-fasting.

I didn't spot that but I don't think that they bother with fasting bloods nowadays as my doc scrapped them about five years ago

 

[dan19900]

I wouldn't be eating any fruit if I was diabetic. Just get some supplements for fiber, vitamins & minerals.

 

[Ian J]

I wouldn't be eating any fruit if I was diabetic. Just get some supplements for fiber, vitamins & minerals.

When I first joined the club 10 years ago the doctor told me that I was on a diet for the rest of my life but to be sensible about it and it wouldn't kill me to eat the occasional "bad" things but in moderation

 

[Chris Ashdown]

I wouldn't be eating any fruit if I was diabetic. Just get some supplements for fiber, vitamins & minerals.

Not really a clever statement

The thing is whatever you eat do it in moderation and cut out artificial sugar if you can especially in high calorie man made foods, few people ever have a need for supplements living a normal life unless they have very restricted diets

 

[Robert Meredith]

Five days in to my new regimen and I've lost 5.5lbs already. Quite pleased and surprised at that to be honest.

Down to two slices of bread a day and no potatoes or rice or pasta.

Eating shedloads of eggs and a fair bit of chicken.

Tesco does a nice bag of mixed nuts for snacks.

Up to around 15 miles (total) of walking.

Sounds great. The only problem I had in your position was maintaining it. Easy for a year or two. Not so easy for 40 years! (in my case).

So i would try and find a regime that you are happy with for life!

My wife thinks i should relax and take the metformin but I am still managing without 6 years on.

 

[Robert Meredith]

I'm not saying its not cleaner than most people...but there is just a lot of sugar in that list when you say you don't take sugar. More than 10g of sugar in all those biscuits. Easily half a tonne of sugar in all the fruit.

My observation is that proper exercise like running munches sugar and carbs. So sedentary people need to avoid all carbs and sugar. If you run marathons then its not the same.

I saw an interesting interview with a Team Sky nutritionist. They have a base level of low carbs for rest days and then give carbs on training / race days in proportion to the effort.

 

[Gordon - Commercial Finance]

My observation is that proper exercise like running munches sugar and carbs.

Thanks, but your observation isn't strictly true.

Proper exercise doesn't munch any particular food group. Proper exercise requires energy, and your body will use whatever is available.

 

[dan19900]

Not really a clever statement

The thing is whatever you eat do it in moderation and cut out artificial sugar if you can especially in high calorie man made foods, few people ever have a need for supplements living a normal life unless they have very restricted diets

If food has artificial sugar (sweeteners) in then it won't be a high calorie food. It makes no difference whether the sugar comes straight out a bag or from an apple, probably better off eating pure sugar than an apple actually seeing as it's lower fructose.
May not have a need for supplements but I find it much easier to take a multi vit and some fiber every day than worry about if I'm eating enough vegetables.

 

[JEREMY HAWKE]

Thanks, but your observation isn't strictly true.

Proper exercise doesn't munch any particular food group. Proper exercise requires energy, and your body will use whatever is available.

Robert you cant expect the usual suspects on here to start running . They are already on borrowed time Imagine if everybody on here went for a six mile run today .
There would only be four of us left

 

[Chris Ashdown]

Im out it takes me 22 min to do my 2,26km fast walk every day to get the paper but am 70
Six miles and i would have to start before i finished

 

[AWA Training]

Not read all the threads, but i am a type II, on Metformin now, i believe the best course of action is eat nothing after 7pm and plenty of excercise. Sadly the fizzy drinks are riddled with sugar.

 

[Blaby Loyal]

Got the results this morning from an HbA1c test I had done privately: 39mmol/mol i.e. normal.

Will keep on a revised diet though as I'd like to see if I can my weight to start with 14st something as opposed to the 16s and 15s I've been used to for too many years perhaps.

 

[Newchodge]

Got the results this morning from an HbA1c test I had done privately: 39mmol/mol i.e. normal.

Will keep on a revised diet though as I'd like to see if I can my weight to start with 14st something as opposed to the 16s and 15s I've been used to for too many years perhaps.

That's great news. You're having a bit of a week, aren't you!

Will you be discussing this result with your GP?

 

[Blaby Loyal]

That's great news. You're having a bit of a week, aren't you!

Will you be discussing this result with your GP?

I would do if I thought they'd be the slightest bit interested but they won't be.

Info and guidance on this Thread has proved invaluable and I've invested in a self-test kit to keep an eye on things.

 

[Gordon - Commercial Finance]

My best friend has just started trying to tackle a recent diagnosis of MS with a Keto diet. I hope he gets results as quickly and definitively as you did!
I've just started back on Keto today, just to cut a bit of fat...and also because I love it.

 

[Gordon - Commercial Finance]

@Blaby Loyal read this today and thought of you - you might be interested.


http://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/die...d-could-be-good-for-you/ar-BBOxsqp?ocid=ientp

 

[Blaby Loyal]

Thanks for that Gordon.

There's a right old load of 'myth-information' out there isn't there.

I had expected that I was well on course for 'death by bacon'!

 

[UKSBD]

I dream of bacon

currently having everything via a syringe through a feeding peg direct to stomach :-(

 

[Gordon - Commercial Finance]

I dream of bacon

Unpopular opinion: bacon is massively overrated.

Much prefer sausages.

 

[UKSBD]

Either would be nice

Both in a crusty baguette oozing with tomato sauce would be better.

 

[Ian J]

Unpopular opinion: bacon is massively overrated.

Much prefer sausages.

Do you know what parts of the pig goes in sausages?

 

[Gordon - Commercial Finance]

Do you know what parts of the pig goes in sausages?

The tasty bits.

 

[Chris Ashdown]

I think the best thing you can do is eat a well balance daily food intake in smaller quantities than usual and over a long period reduce your weight to within the obese guidelines, once there it's a matter of choice if you wish to carry on

Myself i have gone from 16 stone to 14 stone over the last 4 months with a fast walk to get the paper and smaller meals and happy to continue on, hopefully my suger levels will be much better next month on my diabetes check and i can get off the bloody pills

 

[JEREMY HAWKE]

Sounds great. The only problem I had in your position was maintaining it. Easy for a year or two. Not so easy for 40 years! (in my case).

So i would try and find a regime that you are happy with for life!

My wife thinks i should relax and take the metformin but I am still managing without 6 years on.

I am very surprised that you cant maintain it over a life time Robert As an accountant you would have a very disciplined nature
I am a scatter brain but have the food intake of a monk

 

[Mark T Jones]

Do you know what parts of the pig goes in sausages?

Ear holes , eye holes And arseholes

Actually that’s rissoles

Still, if you’re going to eat the animal, eat the animal

Except andouillette. That’s just wrong.

 

[Ian J]

They do say that the only part of the pig that is wasted is the grunt

 

[paulears]

The pig thing is somewhat ironic when for many years, the insulin Type 1 folk used came from pigs, not humans! A few weeks on the diabetic course for the nurses tasked with advising people doesn't even mention this!

 

[Gordon - Commercial Finance]

Still, if you’re going to eat the animal, eat the animal

Would much prefer nothing is wasted for sure. And as long as its actually part of the pig, and not some chemical rubbish filler that gets shoved in to any food these days, then I'm happy. And sausages are amazing.