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Hello,
I run a Ltd company in the UK. I am a minority shareholder. I have a foreign based parent company who is a majority shareholder.
Last year the parent company was due to be sold and the deal would have greatly affected my business. For various reasons, the deal fell through, but the most important reason was that the prospective buyer had cash problems and were not paying their bills to us. At one point, they owed us lots for sub-contract work done for them. We eventually got paid, but the sale broke down.
Through all of this, the relationship between myself and the foreign parent has soured a little. We are still working together and are still friends, but there is a history now.
More importantly now, my relationship with the majority shareholder in the foreign country has broken down completely. He holds me personally responsible for the sale falling through and is out for revenge.
Fast forward to the problem at hand - our bank in the UK are requesting confirmation of the ultimate beneficiaries of the UK Ltd company. They need to confirm the ID and address of anyone who owns more than 25% either directly or indirectly by accumulation or dilution.
The ultimate shareholder in the foreign country, let's call him Mr A, holds just under 50% shares of the foreign company. Mr A therefore holds x% * y% of the UK Ltd company, which is greater than 25%.
The bank have requested confirmation of ID from Mr A and have said that they will close our account unless it is provided under the know your customer legislation. What they've asked for is a bit frustrating, but nothing too challenging.
The kicker now is that Mr A has seen this as an opportunity to extract revenge against me and has refused to provide the information requested by the bank.
Mr A will not provide me with the documents. The bank have said that they will close our account. I cannot then open a different account as the new bank would just ask for the same information. Closure of the bank account would likely lead to the business being wound up.
I have attempted to discuss with the bank to change the requirements, but ultimately they're just following the legislation set out to the by law so it isn't proving to be very fruitful.
Mr A wants me to buy him out. He doesn't directly own the shares in the UK Ltd company, so I can't actually do that directly.
I could buy some of Mr A's shares in the foreign company so his ultimate percentage of the Ltd company is below 25% and the problem with the bank would go away. This however would cost £000,000's and I simply don't have that.
I could buy some shares from the parent company which would again bring the magic number below 25%. This would cost £00,000's depending upon the business value in the UK. Quite how I would value a business that is about to cease trading due to effectively blackmail, I don't know. I'm not sure that I also want to spend £00,000's simply as a result of blackmail.
Or, I could somehow change his mind. I have attempted to get the parent company to help, but he is refusing to help them either. He simply wants to make me suffer.
How can I make Mr A see sense that he needs to provide the documents that the bank has asked for (due to international money laws) and that this isn't an opportunity to extract revenge?
What recourse do I have against Mr A since he isn't a shareholder and isn't a director of my company, furthermore he isn't even in the same country as me?
Many thanks in advance.
I run a Ltd company in the UK. I am a minority shareholder. I have a foreign based parent company who is a majority shareholder.
Last year the parent company was due to be sold and the deal would have greatly affected my business. For various reasons, the deal fell through, but the most important reason was that the prospective buyer had cash problems and were not paying their bills to us. At one point, they owed us lots for sub-contract work done for them. We eventually got paid, but the sale broke down.
Through all of this, the relationship between myself and the foreign parent has soured a little. We are still working together and are still friends, but there is a history now.
More importantly now, my relationship with the majority shareholder in the foreign country has broken down completely. He holds me personally responsible for the sale falling through and is out for revenge.
Fast forward to the problem at hand - our bank in the UK are requesting confirmation of the ultimate beneficiaries of the UK Ltd company. They need to confirm the ID and address of anyone who owns more than 25% either directly or indirectly by accumulation or dilution.
The ultimate shareholder in the foreign country, let's call him Mr A, holds just under 50% shares of the foreign company. Mr A therefore holds x% * y% of the UK Ltd company, which is greater than 25%.
The bank have requested confirmation of ID from Mr A and have said that they will close our account unless it is provided under the know your customer legislation. What they've asked for is a bit frustrating, but nothing too challenging.
The kicker now is that Mr A has seen this as an opportunity to extract revenge against me and has refused to provide the information requested by the bank.
Mr A will not provide me with the documents. The bank have said that they will close our account. I cannot then open a different account as the new bank would just ask for the same information. Closure of the bank account would likely lead to the business being wound up.
I have attempted to discuss with the bank to change the requirements, but ultimately they're just following the legislation set out to the by law so it isn't proving to be very fruitful.
Mr A wants me to buy him out. He doesn't directly own the shares in the UK Ltd company, so I can't actually do that directly.
I could buy some of Mr A's shares in the foreign company so his ultimate percentage of the Ltd company is below 25% and the problem with the bank would go away. This however would cost £000,000's and I simply don't have that.
I could buy some shares from the parent company which would again bring the magic number below 25%. This would cost £00,000's depending upon the business value in the UK. Quite how I would value a business that is about to cease trading due to effectively blackmail, I don't know. I'm not sure that I also want to spend £00,000's simply as a result of blackmail.
Or, I could somehow change his mind. I have attempted to get the parent company to help, but he is refusing to help them either. He simply wants to make me suffer.
How can I make Mr A see sense that he needs to provide the documents that the bank has asked for (due to international money laws) and that this isn't an opportunity to extract revenge?
What recourse do I have against Mr A since he isn't a shareholder and isn't a director of my company, furthermore he isn't even in the same country as me?
Many thanks in advance.