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frank

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Do people actually do this in the UK ? I know it worth money in the USA and people are mad for it but what about here ?

And if so what would be an average figure for the following 1 way link from a site with the following page rankings ?

PR5
PR6
PR7
PR8
PR9

Thanks
Frank
 
I've sold a couple of links from one of my PR4 sites before and was offered $30 for each link (which of course I accepted)

Hope this helps a little
 
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Hi Andrew,

Was that a $30 one off charge or per month ?

I have heard that you can charge a figure per month for keeping a link on your site ?
 
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MarkPearson said:
I have used text link ads many times, great for seo.

http://www.text-link-ads.com/?ref=44904

they also have a UK websites section
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Thanks for that Mark, I will probably use them actually !

One question, I notice that the link you gave me was an affiliate link. Now I have nothing against this at all, and will use your link if I choose to go with them as I know how important affiliate links are as I am an affiliate enterpenur lol

Just one question I have for you which is off topic - Do you make much money through being an affiliate for this company ? pm me if you would prefer to talk that way, as I have been looking for a site that will enable me to offer links / sell links as an affiliate, so you have helped me out in a different way so thanks for that !

Frank
 
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Hi Frank,

Firstly, I highly recommend text link ads, they are the best company I have found for that kind of purchase.

I have spent a small fortune myself with them buying text links as its partially the key to great search engine rankings.

I sell on many of my websites text links via the text links ads program.

I recommend them to a lot of people and do make some good commission from them.

I would not recommend them here to mostly people I know or people who know me if I did not think they are worth looking at.
 
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frank said:
Hi Andrew,

Was that a $30 one off charge or per month ?

I have heard that you can charge a figure per month for keeping a link on your site ?
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Just a one-off fee, seemed ok to me considering it was an old website I haven't updated in about 4 years!
 
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Text link ads is good, used to be quite cheap, the company was recently sold, the new owners seem to have doubled the prices of links. You can also use other sites such as textlinkadsmarketplace.ukwebmasterworld.com , you can buy or sell links for free.
 
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Actually any type of advertising for your site will help you. Marketing is a never ending process for any business.

When it comes to internet businesses and websites, the only way people and search engines know u exist is by links.

A site with no links to it will never be found to anybody other from someone who knows the url.

Links just like television ads, banner ads or any type of media advertising, sort of seep in slowly.

Take Wordpress for example. People visiting Wordpress Blogs, see the tiny little link to Wordpress in the sidebar or footer. After seeing it many, many times, on many different sites, it sort of makes it's place in the subconcious mind.
 
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Currently being banished to the sandbox and now pretty tooled up on search engines after having read all the googlehead blogs, I personally would not buy into any text-link schemes or directories, unless I felt a site was directly relevant to my products.

I think you its throwing money away and in the longer term, doing more harm than good. :)

Cheers
Richard
 
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Whenever you are buying a link please make sure that the link is relevant to your website. If you have a computer shop and have a link from a butcher it will be worth nothing ;)
 
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Absolutely thank you

This subject drives me mad, think out of the box people buying links is dumb there are many ways to get to the same point... buying links is just dumb. Worst still the SE's are trying to target bought links. :eek:
 
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I would very strongly recommend that:

1. If you have or are considering buying text link ads for Pagerank - STOP!

2. If you have or are considering selling text link ads to assist a websites Pagerank - STOP!

Matt Cutts - who is the head of anti-spam at Google has this week posted on his blog that Google is actively working to neutralise the artificial benefits of buying links for pagreank which is simply "gaming" the Seach Engines.

If you have got a spare 3 or 4 hours you might want to read all the posts on this thread! You heard it here first.............

You have been warned :)
 
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Hi Richard,

Did you submit to Yahoo and DMOZ - this is actually suggested on the Google Webmaster Guidelines - straight from the horses mouth! Agree - DON'T BUY TEXT LINKS :eek:

Little Nut Tree said:
Currently being banished to the sandbox and now pretty tooled up on search engines after having read all the googlehead blogs, I personally would not buy into any text-link schemes or directories, unless I felt a site was directly relevant to my products.

I think you its throwing money away and in the longer term, doing more harm than good. :)

Cheers
Richard
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RayB said:
1. If you have or are considering buying text link ads for Pagerank - STOP!

2. If you have or are considering selling text link ads to assist a websites Pagerank - STOP!
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Woooooooowa there boy!

I think there is a lot of smoke and mirrors with this story as there are with many of MC little snippets.

Consider this, two smallish companies produce the following products:

Askismet – spam filter for blogs, activate it it’s 99.99% accurate
Mailwasher – email filter, a little training and it is hot to trot

Google – the worlds largest search company + largest database + largest snooping capacity…, they can’t spot paid links!!!!! NO sorry I don’t buy into this one. There is a hidden agenda here. :mad:
 
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I am quite interested in text links, I have worked for companies before who use affiliate window and similar affiliate programs very successfully.

I had a look at http://www.text-link-ads.com/?ref=44904 but it was an American company is there a British equivalent?

We just want more traffic to our website, we use PPC etc but also want to investigate other sources…
 
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It's inevitable that text links will, at a point in the not too distant future cease to be relied upon to the degree Google and other engines place on them currently because of clear and obvious abuse.

In 2003 it took just 32 external text links to get George Bush's Biography site to rank at #1 on Google for the keywords;
miserable failure & failure which really highlighted how easy it was to "influence" Google data. It's been widely known for a very long time that links assist rankings, links can be bought and it just boils down to the depth of a pocket at the end of the day. Everyone knowns about it and so does Google, which is why it's been above radar at GooglePlex for years.

PR went the same way. Cracking idea at the time until Google realised shortly afterwards that PR too bore an un-healthy relationship between rankings and the depth of an individuals pocket which forced Google to look into ways of identifying sites believed to be blatantly selling PR for the sole purpose of artificially inflating other site rankings.

It's not just organic listings they've been looking at in detail, since last July they've been hammering away nicely at Adwords abusers.

At the end of the day, sites that are 'solely' reliant upon links for their rankings may be in for a surprise.

My 2 cents worth.
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I agree with Tin,

I see PR9 ranked pages selling links via the known brokers for $2500 A MONTH at the moment. This is blatant gaming of SE's and I guess very easy for them to detect these days.

Thats expensive, especially for a link that won't count soon.

Better to spend your money on strict white hat SEO in the long term in my opinion - but hey, what do I know - spend your money as you see fit :)
 
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Some interesting comments from Ray B and Tin.

While I'm no SEO and I can't say what google are doing with their algo, from a business/marketing strategy perspective, it seems to me that the Google empire will stand or fall on their ability to continue to provide the highest quality and most relevant set of results.

an un-healthy relationship between rankings and the depth of an individuals pocket
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Fortunately (for google users like me), Google's search engine pockets are deeper than anyone else's.

So, I know who'll end up on top in this fight.

And my guess - and remember I don't know the SEO industry - is that the future of SEO won't be artificial linking strategies, it'll be aligning with google's goals and suplying the sort of on-page content google wants to share with their users.

(or, at least, what "looks" to their bots like "quality content")

Just my 2p, feel free to disagree.

Steve
 
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Hey Ray ;)

Further thoughts

The move is unethical, let's just take on example paid listings in directories. Anyone who runs a business of that kind has just lost a company and all their employees are looking for jobs.

Devalue links sure but G are also asking for people to report paid links, if they can't detect paid links I'm a pink fairy.


Q. What's the difference between paid links and using Adwords?
A. Google would rather you did the later.

My 1/2p
 
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Yes, I do buy text links.

Yes, I do think they are value for money, both in driving traffic and in gaining "reputation" for your site.

Yes, I have seen what I consider to be a direct improvement in search engine rankings due to links that I have bought.

Personally, I buy my links from the forums at DigitalPoint. There are some very imaginative people on there selling links in very ingenious ways. If you are thinking about buying links for your site I'd suggest you start off with some low costs links, learn what seems to work for your site and build from there. Now is also an idea time to buy, as most people sell in $s and the exchange rate makes them excellent value for money.

Just my 2p!
 
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mattk said:
There are some very imaginative people on there selling links in very ingenious ways.
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Yep Google will never rumble these "ingenious methods" - unless it crawls those pages :eek:

Might as well walk up and down outside Google HQ wearing a sandwich board saying "links for sale here" :D
 
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since last July they've been hammering away nicely at Adwords abusers.
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My take on the changes to adwords (the so-called "googleslap"s) is that Google realised the dangers of poor quality post-click content.

If people kept clicking on PPC ads and ended up at spammy, poor-value sites or kept getting the same page via different ads (because of multiple affiliates), they'd start to become innoculated against the paid listings.

And this would slash Google's PPC income.

So, they took a long term view and decided that the RH side of the page should offer a similar quality and relevance to the organic listings on the left.

I think it was a smart move and will make google a lot of money in the long-term.

Steve
 
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Google wants to take over the world.

They are totally obsessed with making money.

They are putting more and more restrictions on organic results to encourage more people to use adwords.

If Google had its way it would make its entire search facility adwords.

This is their ultimate goal in my opinion.
 
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EBA Advisor said:
Google wants to take over the world.

They are totally obsessed with making money.

They are putting more and more restrictions on organic results to encourage more people to use adwords.

If Google had its way it would make its entire search facility adwords.

This is their ultimate goal in my opinion.
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I agree.

I am already in the process of removing the promotion of adwords from my sites.

If Google wants to bite the hand of those who feed it, so be it. :)

I don't think they can possibly stop searchengine manipulation or the sale of links for SE improvement. They have to rank sites SOMEHOW. They can't possibly switch to content only and that just makes spam inevitable and we are back to the old days of text stuffing. The only reason they would try to indroduce changes would be to try and further increase thier sales of adwords, as if they were the only place to advertise on the entire web.

It could open the opportunity for Yahoo to become the no1 search engine..... if only they could get their bloody finger out and get their publisher network worldwide. No wonder they announce 11% decrease of revenue this quarter. :|
 
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JustOneUK said:
It could open the opportunity for Yahoo to become the no1 search engine..... if only they could get their bloody finger out and get their publisher network worldwide. No wonder they announce 11% decrease of revenue this quarter. :|
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I do think that there is the possibility of another search engine taking over from Google. It would have to be a brand new one though, something a little different that catches on quickly.

Googles success was built on the fact that it was a no frills, no ads, relevant search engine. That is not the case anymore, and the door is open for another one to step in.

This is why google is buying up the world and launching different products, because they know that their time as the top search engine may not last.
 
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I think this is getting a bit harsh on Google. There is a lot of hysteria in the web community at the moment - all Google is trying to do is eliminate as far as possible the SE gaming and slewing of results by buying links for Pagerank.

I have seen a PR9 homepage link for sale @ $2500 per month.

If I had deep pockets and bought it - and it blew an honest webmaster out of the water - is that fair? No!

So - I think what thet are doing is great.

Lets have SERPS more honestly earned and level the playing field.
 
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RayB said:
I have seen a PR9 homepage link for sale @ $2500 per month.

If I had deep pockets and bought it - and it blew an honest webmaster out of the water - is that fair? No!
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Of course it's fair, if you have deep pockets you can rank no1 on adwords by paying the most per click. It's the same. They don't give it to you for nothing! want to be no1 for the term Property?, pay Google. :|

I have seen advertising space on The Times that costs a lot (PR9), or there is always your local paper (PR1)! :)

Every website is like a small newspaper, and you should be entitled to make money as you see fit.
 
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I dont think buying links from a page rank 9 site will help you rank number 1 on google

Buying high pr links is only a benefit if you have a high pr site. For example if you have a pr4 then dont buy links from a pr9, as google will know its a paid link.

What pr9 site would genuinely link to a pr4?

Go for quantity over quality if you want to get on the 1st page of google :)
 
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