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vvaannmmaann

vvaannmmaann

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At the Spring Fair I got cornered by a chap building sites.
So I asked how long will it take to get onto the first page of Google/Yahoo etc?
His response -about six months.Is this correct?
 
Nah definitely not...

Getting on google is one thing, but getting top ranked is another.
 
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infiniteseo said:
probably a month would be long enough. There was a post in another section which he just bought the domain, no advertising but his site was already in google, and other bots already crawled his site as well.

http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=56681

Nothing definite but probably within a month's time.
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She asked how long to get into the top 10 of Google, not just get listed in Google, you can get listed in Google in a matter of days given the right incoming links, getting anywhere near the spot top of the organic results for popular keywords is another matter altogether, but without knowing what those keywords are any speculation is just wildly unreliable.
 
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A few good pearls of wisdom from ServWise there.

Getting into google can take anywhere from a couple of days to a couple of hours depending on how your website can be found ie backlinks, submit directly etc as well as the speed at which google is currently updating its index.

Saying you could rank in the top 10 within a month is (in my view) a gross over estimation - different keywords/search terms have different competition. Sure its definately possible for a pointless phrase such as the one ServWise mentioned "Squashed cucumber Penelope plumb-bob" - of course you'd have to now compete against UKBF for that ranking ;) - but more competative ones could take months going on for years to achieve!
 
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sabian1982 said:
Saying you could rank in the top 10 within a month is (in my view) a gross over estimation - different keywords/search terms have different competition. Sure its definately possible for a pointless phrase such as the one ServWise mentioned "Squashed cucumber Penelope plumb-bob" - of course you'd have to now compete against UKBF for that ranking ;) - but more competative ones could take months going on for years to achieve!
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ROTFL, doh!... yeah those keywords are probably taken now, you might get second place though.... :)
 
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I would stay away from anybody who gives you a timescale, it's not possable to do. You may never get to the top page of Google of useful keywords.
 
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I'm in Finance/loans, how long approximately would it take to get a Google 1st page listing using white techniques
 
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Lou12 said:
I'm in Finance/loans, how long approximately would it take to get a Google 1st page listing using white techniques
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Write some numbers down on little slips of paper - put them in a hat, and then pick out 3 numbers at random... add them up, divide by the number of days in the month, times by the current date and then (finally) add the square root of pie. Mmmm pie!

Get the idea??? :rolleyes:
 
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My experience has been about 3 month to be appearing within the top 20. Best advice I can give is to use Google Adwords (you can set the budget as low as you like), and then you can start getting paid links appearing from Day One.

Regards

Pete
 
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It does depend on the site / market, but I think perhaps you may have misunderstood the link building fella. 6 months is usually the timeframe given to indicate when improvements in results can be seen. It does vary a great deal, but that is a reasonable indicator.

To put it into context:
  1. Getting pages indexed in Google - reasonably quick (anywhere from 5 minutes to a week).
  2. Getting pages cached by Google - around the same, but usually within 24 hours of being indexed.
  3. Getting pages initially ranking for non competitive terms (eg snippets of text)- again, reasonably quick - usually as and when the page is indexed and cached by Google.
  4. Ranking for low > mid competitive terms (i.e. within the top 30) - anywhere between stage 3 and 6 months.
  5. Ranking for mid > mid high competitive terms - 6-12 months.
  6. Ranking for high competition terms - 12 months +
The issue is that there are many factors affecting the process - PageRank, source of inbound links, rate at which new content is added (or old content is changed), site architecture, etc.

The "6 months" figure is generally given because in most cases, the following should be true within 6 months:
  • All pages are indexed and cached.
  • Rankings for low > mid terms should be showing some notable improvements compared to the start of the campaign.
The stuff that can't be predicted is whether page x will be ranking for term y within z months. There are just too many variables to predict this with accuracy (more seasoned SEOs may be able to give you reasonable ballpark figures, although most avoid doing so as it's no more than an educated guess).

Hope this helps,
Scott
 
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vvaannmmaann said:
At the Spring Fair I got cornered by a chap building sites.
So I asked how long will it take to get onto the first page of Google/Yahoo etc?
His response -about six months.Is this correct?
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The big issues with link building are:

1. Is the site more than 12-18 months old?
2. How competitive are the keywords?

Older sites can get faster results and really target competitive keywords - sites less than 12-18 months old can be profitable when link building for the Longtail, but are unlikely to hit the high traffic competitive keywords.

6 months is a *very* reasonable minimum time to run a link building campaign - I ensure this on all of my contracts, for the simple fact that when developing good links, the results improve continually through the 6 months period.

Sure, a good campaign can push you from Top 100 to Top 10 within a couple of weeks, but over the following months, all things being good, it slowly rises further.

However, with fresh link scoring and link aging factors taken into account, this can still leave targeted keyword rankings unstable, especially in the first few months.

At the end of 6 months, if no new work is done, you've probably reached a plateau where you can then re-evaluate the campaign, the keywords, and see what changes you'd like to make.

Ultimately *good* link building takes time for the real impact to filter through and the rankings be properly managed.
 
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In the last few weeks I've noticed my site appearing higher in results and that's after about 6 months. I've got a page that has only been up since Christmas time and is now number 1 on Google for 'EuroMillions spreadsheet' (quite a few hits today, must be the £95 million prize) so some pages must get picked up quickly.
 
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I was wondering this too I just baught .co.uk domain of my site I want to shut or at least direct my .com home page to the uk site soon as possible. I'll keep the .com site running till I rank well on the uk site. I was wondering if the 6 month rumour was true for google indexing.
 
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it has taken us about £6k in seo, many 100s of man hours and over a year to finally break the top ten for the word 'stamps' with white hat techniques. you won't be short of forum posters who will say that they could do it for less and quicker. you have to ask why these people aren't already incredibly rich. seo is a grey area - a bit like the collectables market. this enables a lot of chancers to try their luck. they all want your money.
 
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CG Effect said:
I was wondering this too I just baught .co.uk domain of my site I want to shut or at least direct my .com home page to the uk site soon as possible. I'll keep the .com site running till I rank well on the uk site. I was wondering if the 6 month rumour was true for google indexing.
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Why do you want to do this? What's wrong with your .com site? Why not just redirect the .co.uk to the .com?
 
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