Who Wants Boris Back?

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I know so many who thinks that
Ok. So in the circle of people you know some have racist opinions. That doesn’t extrapolate to ‘many’ people.
 
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brexit already showed that and I guess election results will show that too.. Let’s wait for the election and see the results..
That makes no sense at all. What has brexit got to to with the nationality of the former chancellor?
 
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    According to us yes, for many people here he is British Indian, in other words, Indian
    The British people I know, and I know a few having lived here a few decades, simply want someone decent who can do the job. If they don't elect Rishi, it'll be for other reasons, not the colour of his skin. You're coming across as an ace racist.

    I know, it's wonderful. The Tories once again making sure that big business' profits are maintained.
    They should be maintained. What all you socialists forget is that corporation tax (£60 billion last year, an increase of £14.6 billion over the previous year) pay for all the handouts you lot like to give to the work shy (and others), not to mention dividends paid to pension funds etc.

    And if they make profit, they invest, they hire more people, they generate the activity that funnels income tax to the coffers. Most of the money our government has to pay for social programs comes from businesses making a profit.

    So you can't explain how or why you think Johnson can fix this mess.
    Maybe he can, maybe he can't but if so many on the left are panicking at his possible return, especially in the mainstream media, that's a great argument, in my books, for him to return.
     
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    You seem to have forgotten that they are not paying for it - that money is coming from your grandchildren. Suck it up, folks! It's what you voted for!

    TBF, it is the same in your wonderful Germany and literally every other European country that has taken action on fuel costs, which is probably all of them in some form or other.

    Germany is currently proposing another €200 billion relief, agreed gas levy unlikely to be introduced, largest gas company nationalised to prevent market implosion. The German tax payer will be paying for those measures.

    This is a worldwide problem, Germany particularly suffering from lack of Gas.

    Not sure what anyone expects, a tough winter would have seen thousands dying, with it being too late by then to try and keep the prices down. The real culprits in this is whoever sabotaged Nordstream, a major European infrastructure.

    The Swedes refuse to share their investigation, the Germans claim to know who did it, but won’t say due to national security. So it wasn’t the Russians for sure. Anyone else suprised how hardly anyone is talking about this anymore?
     
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    @MBE2017 - yes, re Germany - totally agree! One cock-up after another!
    You can say the same about the NHS, Military, Roads, Railways, the infernal Foreign Aid and Benefits package. What is your point.
    My point is that the real cure for high prices is high prices. Subsidising prices or (worse still) introducing price controls distorts the market and leads to gross inefficiencies.

    I could go through your list of government schemes and each one is unbelievably wasteful. Governments are inherently wasteful. It's what they do! They are largely parasitic. Every quango, every ministry - and in every country - is wasteful. It matters not whether we are trying to be socialist or capitalist, it is the very nature of modern government to be wasteful.

    Why?

    Because it is no longer government by edict and decree, judged by results. It has become government by micromanagement performed by a thousand bureaucrats, each performing their tasks in perfect accordance with Parkinson's Law - work expands to fill the time allotted!
     
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    They should be maintained. What all you socialists forget is that corporation tax (£60 billion last year, an increase of £14.6 billion over the previous year) pay for all the handouts you lot like to give to the work shy (and others), not to mention dividends paid to pension funds etc.

    And if they make profit, they invest, they hire more people, they generate the activity that funnels income tax to the coffers. Most of the money our government has to pay for social programs comes from businesses making a profit.


    Maybe he can, maybe he can't but if so many on the left are panicking at his possible return, especially in the mainstream media, that's a great argument, in my books, for him to return.
    You can almost see the spittle on the screen.
     
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    Because it is no longer government by edict and decree, judged by results. It has become government by micromanagement performed by a thousand bureaucrats, each performing their tasks in perfect accordance with Parkinson's Law - work expands to fill the time allotted!

    I agree totally, the sooner Governmental interference is dispensed with the better but unfortunately in the Communistic attitude of the UK population that will not happen.

    Why is the price of electricity linked to the cost of gas when it produces about 54% of the electricity. I buy from a "green" provider so should not be using Gas at all but still have to pay the Gas-linked price.
     
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    Why does anybody think that a government (esp the illustrious UK one) can actually do anything about what are global factors?

    If prices are high, then surely they’ll have to be paid, not artificially squashed so that the next generation suffers.
    If prices are high enough there won't BE a next generation for a large part of society.
     
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    If prices are high enough there won't BE a next generation for a large part of society.
    Yes there will. They will lead much simpler lives less dependant on the technology they rely on for everything.
     
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    Yes there will. They will lead much simpler lives less dependant on the technology they rely on for everything.
    People without homes and without enough money to eat will not produce another generation (ignoring climate change and the dangers of that).
     
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    People will not be homeless. They may not have the same house as they do now but accommodation will always be provided for those in need.

    And basic nutritious food can be procured and cooked for very little.

    Doesn’t mean life isn’t going to be hard for many of us but we don’t need a society that relies on an app to deliver milk for breakfast instead of a bit of planning and budgeting.
     
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    Racism was the main reason for Brexit hence the reason Brexit hasnt done anything good but attack immigrants
    No it wasn’t. Where do you get your strange ideas from?
     
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    People will not be homeless. They may not have the same house as they do now but accommodation will always be provided for those in need.
    It isn't provided now, how will it be in the future when there will be greater demand?
    And basic nutritious food can be procured and cooked for very little.
    Not if you are living on the street or in a bed and brteakfast with no cooking facilities.
    we don’t need a society that relies on an app to deliver milk for breakfast instead of a bit of planning and budgeting.
    You really are joking, aren't you.
     
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    I agree totally, the sooner Governmental interference is dispensed with the better but unfortunately in the Communistic attitude of the UK population that will not happen.

    Why is the price of electricity linked to the cost of gas when it produces about 54% of the electricity. I buy from a "green" provider so should not be using Gas at all but still have to pay the Gas-linked price.
    ...but it would take 'government interference ' to unlink the gas linked prices?

    The government should work for the people to increase opportunity, nationally and internationally. You can't expand your business if your government taxes you to oblivion but equally you can't do a jot if your government doesn't open up markets. Individuals can't force a foreign government to lower import duty etc.
     
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    ...but it would take 'government interference ' to unlink the gas linked prices?

    The government should work for the people to increase opportunity, nationally and internationally. You can't expand your business if your government taxes you to oblivion but equally you can't do a jot if your government doesn't open up markets. Individuals can't force a foreign government to lower import duty etc.
    No it was government interference that linked the price of electricity.
     
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    It isn't provided now, how will it be in the future when there will be greater demand?
    Nobody currently in accomodation will be evicted in a recession. There are numerous safeguards in place to prevent this happening.
     
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    Come April, energy cost help will become more targeted. It needs to be, otherwise thw bill will spiral out of control. And why not? Why does a millionaire with far more disposable income need more help than someone on minimum wage?

    The question is how will this all be paid for. Hunt has not ruled out a windfall tax. We'll fnd out on October 31st.
     
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    Judging by all the people I see spaffing their money on M&S coffee in the mornings, coupled with the abundance of fastfood delivery outlets & couriers I see everywhere, there are still a lot of people who have plenty of disposable income!

    Also in 4 of the 5 proper local pubs who do Sunday roasts, you still need to book a week in advance (£17 pp).
     
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    Definitely not Boris. That would be keeping doing the same thing and expecting to get a different result.

    I think that the only person with a remote possibility of getting the MPs and the country onside is Penny Maudaunt

    I think that she was dumped from the last leadership election is that had she been on the ballot she would have won convincingly
     
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    Nobody currently in accomodation will be evicted in a recession. There are numerous safeguards in place to prevent this happening.
    I am sorry, you are living in cloud cuckoo land. For a start every tenant can currntly be evicted by their landlord simply giving 2 months' notice. Every mortgage payer can be evicted if they fail to pay thier mortgage. Both these things need court orders but the orders will be given at the drop of a hat.
     
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    Come April, energy cost help will become more targeted. It needs to be, otherwise thw bill will spiral out of control. And why not? Why does a millionaire with far more disposable income need more help than someone on minimum wage?

    The question is how will this all be paid for. Hunt has not ruled out a windfall tax. We'll fnd out on October 31st.
    We may find out on October 31st.
     
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    Judging by all the people I see spaffing their money on M&S coffee in the mornings, coupled with the abundance of fastfood delivery outlets & couriers I see everywhere, there are still a lot of people who have plenty of disposable income!

    Also in 4 of the 5 proper local pubs who do Sunday roasts, you still need to book a week in advance (£17 pp).
    But what about the people you don't see? They do exist.
     
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    BORIS JOHNSON PULLS OUT OF THE TORY LEADERSHIP CONTEST- THE TIMES POLITICAL EDITOR TWEET

    Pound is trading up on the open tonight
    He CAN'T pull out, he was never in! I see that he is still lying, saying he has 102 nominations. Yeah, right.
     
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