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Mathew

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Hi,
Looking for a few stock images to use on a website can anyone recommend a good company that does not charge silly money?
Thanks
Mat
 
istock
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flickr but click the advanced tab then chooses Find "content to use commercially" then check the CC
Be very careful that random images are not owned by Getty, they search the web for posting and then send out a bill that is normally in the thousands "getty love letter"
 
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ben b said:
flickr but click the advanced tab then chooses Find "content to use commercially" then check the CC
Be very careful that random images are not owned by Getty, they search the web for posting and then send out a bill that is normally in the thousands "getty love letter"
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CC on Flickr is not safe. I have found several of my images listed as CC on Flickr. I have never posted anything on Flickr. One was used without asking me and they now face a £500 bill.
 
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I always contact the OP on Flickr and use tineye dot com to try to find the OP.
its a pain Getty doesn't submit to tin eye or cc,
 
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ben b said:
I always contact the OP on Flickr and use tineye dot com to try to find the OP.
its a pain Getty doesn't submit to tin eye or cc,
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Getty own Tineye's rivals, Picscout.

GIS have more matches than Tineye.
 
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I use Shutterstock. Their site is easy to use, the light tables are very handy and the quality is mostly very good. I sell on Shutterstock as well but you really need a lot of images to make it worth the effort.
 
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I have used www.canstockphoto.com a few times. I think they are cheaper than istock from memory, and you don't have to buy a set amount of credits, one image at a time if you want, or it used to be.

You have to watch how you buy them though, certain bank cards will charge you 1.50 for the transaction, so best to use paypal.
 
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bdw said:
It's called speculative invoicing. ;)
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Its called image theft.
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Safe_Collections said:
We respect copyright but a speculative invoice for £500 for a single wrongly attributed picture? Seems a little excessive? :eek:
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I thought I made it clear. I have NOT issued a speculative invoice. My settlement figure is likely to be very modest. What I settle for is still open to negotiation. I was adding in a couple of letters they will pay their lawyer about £180 plus VAT each for before they see sense. My image which was posted on Flickr as CC was also clearly captioned 'this is not my picture.'

Judge Birss QC. established the clear precedent in a recent case with this ruling.

"Copyright law provides for other secondary acts of infringement which generally amount to dealing in infringing copies and those acts only infringe if the person knew or had reason to believe that the copies were infringing copies. However for the primary acts of infringement set out [in this case], the policy of the law is that if there was in fact no permission, an infringement has occurred even if the person genuinely thought they had permission."

http://www.bllaw.co.uk/services_for...nd_updates/no_innocent_infringer_hoffman.aspx




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atmosbob said:
I was adding in a couple of letters they will pay their lawyer about £180 plus VAT each for before they see sense

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Have getty ever taken someone to court and won? I recall reading in one of the many threads that they haven't.

If they were to see sense, surely you would get no money at all? As they would just ignore your letters..
 
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bdw said:
No.

One case was settled out of court.
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So what makes atmosbob think he is so special?

If the people he is after were to totally ignore his ranting letters demanding money, he would most likely get bugger all :D
 
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So what makes atmosbob think he is so special?
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Different circumstances possibly including flagrant copyright infringement and being able to prove that the images were his. He has been informing everyone of his successful claim process for several years now and I don't think he "cease and desist". Like the larger imaging companies it is possibly a nice little earner for him?

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MASSEY said:
Have getty ever taken someone to court and won? I recall reading in one of the many threads that they haven't.

If they were to see sense, surely you would get no money at all? As they would just ignore your letters..
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I am not Getty. When the new small claims patent court opens for business anyone who has ignored my letters will get a summons. It is then up to them if they keep ignoring my legitimate requests for payment. It certainly wont look good to the judge.
 
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I think i am in the wrong job.

Maybe i will go out, buy a nice spec camera, take some elegant pictures and leave them all over the internet to be stole.

Then sit back and watch the money roll in :D
 
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atmosbob said:
I am not Getty. When the new small claims patent court opens for business anyone who has ignored my letters will get a summons. It is then up to them if they keep ignoring my legitimate requests for payment. It certainly wont look good to the judge.
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What if you see a picture on someones website that is yours, contact them and they say 'holy carp, sorry, we downloaded it from another website, what do we do now?'

Do they still get a £500 bill? or do you offer them the chance to purchase the license at a normal fee?
 
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Esk247 said:
What if you see a picture on someones website that is yours, contact them and they say 'holy carp, sorry, we downloaded it from another website, what do we do now?'

Do they still get a £500 bill? or do you offer them the chance to purchase the license at a normal fee?
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Innocence is no defence. They nearly all use that excuse.
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Of course they get a chance to purchase a licence.
 
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MASSEY said:
I think i am in the wrong job.

Maybe i will go out, buy a nice spec camera, take some elegant pictures and leave them all over the internet to be stole.

Then sit back and watch the money roll in :D
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I wish you luck.

The photographers I know, including myself, who are finding substantial amounts of infringements have been producing specialised images for 20 years and more. One shoots from helicopters costing £600 an hour and takes £36,000 worth of equipment with him on each shoot. Two others have substantial and unique collections dating back to the 1960s.
 
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atmosbob said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...went-missing-used-sell-Portugal-holidays.html

This shows how grabbing images off the web is NOT a good idea.
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Yes but that is an extreme case with other reasoning behind why it should not be made available for an advert.

What about pictures of products for instance? I've accepted that unless i put a massive great mark across my product photos they're going to end up on Google Images and then get downloaded and used in blogs and by other businesses.

We've seen it happen with Distribution. Our buyers will download all our images and use them on their website even though we've said those images cost us money. We've almost given up chasing them around now, it is a never ending task.

Product photos can cost £50 to £100 each by the way.
 
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Esk247 said:
Our buyers will download all our images and use them on their website even though we've said those images cost us money. We've almost given up chasing them around now, it is a never ending task.

Product photos can cost £50 to £100 each by the way.
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A photo's value is not what it cost but what it is worth which is sometimes many times greater than cost and sadly sometimes much less. My most valuable image to me cost next to nothing to take. In the same year I drove a 240 mile round trip five times just to get the light right on a house. It never sold.

If you don't chase infringers the whole problem will get worse. You could start by reading http://www.epuk.org/Opinion/994/stolen-photographs-what-to-do
 
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Mathew said:
Hi,
Looking for a few stock images to use on a website can anyone recommend a good company that does not charge silly money?
Thanks
Mat
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Bigstockphoto is good value... I put this on a different thread recently...

I've used istockphoto.com.... but bigstockphoto.com is way way way way cheaper - especially if you buy credit packages - e.g. pay up front for, say, 250 credits.

credit packages on istockphoto look to be a similar price... but very similar photos (similar subject/similar resolution) on istock can cost 40 credits... but only 5 on bigstock

For web based stuff, where you don't need many pixels, they're about a pound per image on bigstock.

Just picked out a random example - similar images of penguins.

istock image 845x542 px costs 5 credits = about 5 quid
bigstock image 874 x 900 px costs 1 credit. = about 1 quid

So Bigstock is 5x cheaper for a web-sized image, than istock.... and as far as I can see, they're way cheaper on all sizes. If you want to see the images I picked at random.. search bigstock's image number 15027953 and compare istock's image 9322955 you'll see they're similar..... or just pick your own random images!
 
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