Patents

Discussion in 'General Business Forum' started by -Chris-, Oct 25, 2017.

  1. -Chris-

    -Chris- UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Have you had any experience of patents and/or copyright please? If your just starting out and you have thought of a company name, a product name and a website address, which one/s do you register for a patent / copyright?
     
    Posted: Oct 25, 2017 By: -Chris- Member since: Oct 1, 2009
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  2. StevensOnln1

    StevensOnln1 UKBF Big Shot Free Member

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    You don't register any of those things for patents or copywrite. A patent protects something you have invented. Copywrite protects work you have created (e.g. a book, a music recording, a video, a website) and applies as soon as the work is published. You could potentially register a trademark to protect the name of a business or product against it being used by anyone else.
     
    Posted: Oct 25, 2017 By: StevensOnln1 Member since: Dec 10, 2011
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  3. -Chris-

    -Chris- UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Thank you for that quick reply. So, if I want to stop anyone else using my company name, my product name and / or my website address, I would register one or all of them as a trademark?
     
    Posted: Oct 25, 2017 By: -Chris- Member since: Oct 1, 2009
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  4. Mr D

    Mr D UKBF Legend Free Member

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    Why would someone else use your website address?
     
    Posted: Oct 25, 2017 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  5. -Chris-

    -Chris- UKBF Regular Free Member

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    I suppose for example, if that website address was the same words as their company name.
     
    Posted: Oct 25, 2017 By: -Chris- Member since: Oct 1, 2009
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  6. Mr D

    Mr D UKBF Legend Free Member

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    You mean a different website address?
     
    Posted: Oct 25, 2017 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  7. -Chris-

    -Chris- UKBF Regular Free Member

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    I mean if I wanted to have a website address as www.ThisIsTheBestCompany.com and there was already a company called This Is The Best Company.
     
    Posted: Oct 26, 2017 By: -Chris- Member since: Oct 1, 2009
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  8. fisicx

    fisicx It's Major Clanger! Staff Member

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    If that were the case you would get into all sort of hot water.

    It would be like you trying to buy www.microsoft.london for your software business - you would get a cease and desist within days.

    But you could get similar names if you aren't trading in the same space. For example the there is a company near me called Amazon Windows and there a whole load of amazon holiday websites.
     
    Posted: Oct 26, 2017 By: fisicx Member since: Sep 12, 2006
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  9. -Chris-

    -Chris- UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Thanks fisicx, it's good to get this straight. Is there a quick way (apart from the obvious Googling) to see if there's already a company name with that anywhere, in the world, or just the country operating in (UK)?
     
    Posted: Oct 26, 2017 By: -Chris- Member since: Oct 1, 2009
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  10. ethical PR

    ethical PR UKBF Legend Free Member

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    Companies House
     
    Posted: Oct 26, 2017 By: ethical PR Member since: Apr 19, 2009
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  11. -Chris-

    -Chris- UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Thanks. Worldwide?
     
    Posted: Oct 26, 2017 By: -Chris- Member since: Oct 1, 2009
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  12. ethical PR

    ethical PR UKBF Legend Free Member

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    Google.
     
    Posted: Oct 26, 2017 By: ethical PR Member since: Apr 19, 2009
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  13. -Chris-

    -Chris- UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Yep, as mentioned, I had thought of that, but it is possible for there to be some companies not found in Google, highly unlikely, but still possible, so was looking for a more foolproof way.
     
    Posted: Oct 26, 2017 By: -Chris- Member since: Oct 1, 2009
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  14. STDFR33

    STDFR33 UKBF Big Shot Free Member

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    If Google throws up no search results, then the only option left is it to walk on every street in the world.
     
    Posted: Oct 26, 2017 By: STDFR33 Member since: Aug 7, 2016
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  15. -Chris-

    -Chris- UKBF Regular Free Member

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    So, anyway - you can check in companies house for UK companies, but how would you check in other countries - or do any of you ever bother with that?
     
    Posted: Oct 26, 2017 By: -Chris- Member since: Oct 1, 2009
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  16. fisicx

    fisicx It's Major Clanger! Staff Member

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    I wouldn't bother. There is no way you could check to see if 'This is the best company' is registered or trademarked in all other countries.

    Just use CH and see if anyone has registered the name. Then do the same for trademarks (which don't have to have an associated limited company)
     
    Posted: Oct 26, 2017 By: fisicx Member since: Sep 12, 2006
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  17. STDFR33

    STDFR33 UKBF Big Shot Free Member

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    Companies House only helps to an extent.

    'Dave's Divine Dildos' may not be on Companies House but it could already be used by an unincorporated business.
     
    Posted: Oct 26, 2017 By: STDFR33 Member since: Aug 7, 2016
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  18. -Chris-

    -Chris- UKBF Regular Free Member

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    I had to put this on hold a few months ago, but am now back to it. If I started a company in the UK today and registered it at companies house UK today, for a particular name, say for example, 'Bright lights shining bright' that is to trade worldwide, what's to stop a totally different unrelated company in the USA from also starting a company called 'Bright lights shining bright' a couple of days later ?
     
    Posted: Feb 5, 2018 By: -Chris- Member since: Oct 1, 2009
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  19. Mr D

    Mr D UKBF Legend Free Member

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    Nothing.
    One is UK company and one a US company.
     
    Posted: Feb 5, 2018 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  20. -Chris-

    -Chris- UKBF Regular Free Member

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    So that could be confusing, if there were 2 companies trading worldwide under the same name?
     
    Posted: Feb 5, 2018 By: -Chris- Member since: Oct 1, 2009
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