Our business trading name

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We started our business in 1992 and have traded under our chosen name with a strong client base since. In the past month I found another company trading with the same name but as a limited company they were formed in 2004. My question is can they force us to change our name and who would hold ownership of the name? Thanks in advance to anyone who can offer any advice on this matter.
Derek
 
As long as the new company doesn't have a trademark, you are able to continue using the trading name. Ensure that your stationary and website shows clearly that this is your trading name.

You might want to consider a trademark, if it is a relevant name.
 
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As long as the new company doesn't have a trademark, you are able to continue using the trading name. Ensure that your stationary and website shows clearly that this is your trading name.

You might want to consider a trademark, if it is a relevant name.

Thanks for the reply nick, what do you mean trade mark? we have logo's we have used on leaflets and advertising as well as vehicle signage would this count?

Also where would we register them?

Thanks again for the help
Derek
 
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Is this other company in the same or similar business as you so that there might be a risk of confusion? - if there is no risk of confusion whatsoever then you can both establish separate independant ownership.

If you have prior use and there is a risk of confusion, then you may be in a position to bring an action for 'passing off' under the common law.

However, the situation would be clearer, and your position stronger, if you had trade mark registration for your name (assuming the name is registrable as such).

Registration of a name at Companies House or as a domain name gives no protection, it simply stops anybody registering the identical name in the same way.

Trade mark registration, however, protects all forms of commercial usage of a name, whether as a company name, business name, product name, shop name, domain name, website name, in fact any form of commercial activity under the same or similar name which may lead to confusion.

Usage alone of a business name or identity affords a certain amount of protection under the common law against ‘passing off ‘. However, this is not only more limited in scope but legal actions for passing off tend to be both more expensive and more uncertain in outcome as well as requiring evidence of likely confusion.

On the other hand – unlike protection for passing off - trade mark registration not only gives immediate national coverage but it is not necessary to show that confusion is likely for trade mark infringement to be established in the case of identicality.

Accordingly, if for example you only trade in Cornwall but have your name as a registered trade mark, and someone else then starts up in Scotland using the same name for the same kind of goods/services as you have registered for, then they can be guilty of infringement even though the geographical separation means that there is no confusion.

Trade mark registration can thus be both a potent weapon and a strong shield to protect your business name and identity. It can also increase a business’s value by strengthening its appeal to investors or licensees.

Our website at www.verymark.info has a lot of free information on trade marks, copyright, designs and patents, or you can email us directly (see link below) for further help.
 
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Good answers above. you can register a trade mark yourself at www.ipo.gov.uk under trade marks. Costs about £200 for one class. Check no one else has registered first. Also if they trade in a different product area there may be no problem either. Plenty of similar marks co-exist but do look into it.
 
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Both companies are based in Scotland we have traded as Bin Cleaning Services since 1992. The other company started mid 2000's as Bin Cleaning Services Limited (according to their old website).

I will look into the points raised here and act on them. Thanks again to nick, lawyer and verymark your help has been most helpfull.
Derek
 
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Talk to Verymark mate. He's about to trademark our company details and logos. He's very knowledgable and very clued up about what he does.

I have no hesitation recommending him.

Jon
 
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If your name is "Bin Cleaning Services" and you clean bins, that that is a generic description of what you do and it is very difficult if not impossible to protect - certainly, it cannot be registered as a trade mark.

That means that you and the other company will inevitably have to put up with a certain amount of confusion.

You might therefore wish to consider adding something to your name to distinguish it from any other "Bin Cleaning Services".
 
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