Following this argument Global Warming could be reduced if we killed everybody while we "reduced the forests, animals etc".
Not an ideal solution perhaps. But effective.
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How we can stop global warming
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Following this argument Global Warming could be reduced if we killed everybody while we "reduced the forests, animals etc".
Not an ideal solution perhaps. But effective.
It all depends on what China and India do really. With the way things are going the world will warm up further. Spring, Summer and Autumn will become even warmer. Winters I'm not so sure, open for debate.
All depends whether we can adapt in time. If it changes slowly we'll adapt, if it's an erratic change then I guess we'll get what we deserve.
All depends whether we can adapt in time. If it changes slowly we'll adapt, if it's an erratic change then I guess we'll get what we deserve.
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Merchant UK
Heres a Great Idea 
I'd like to know what idiot came up with this....
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/business/sheffield-ice-cream-van-ban-madness-1-5600044
So with China Opening up a new Coal Fired Power station every day last year, we've managed to come up with Banning Ice cream Vans from the Roads in Sheffield :|
Crazy
Global Warming is all about £££££'s not saving the planet, People in the energies are Raking in Billions in so called green charges, we're giving away millions of £££'s in grants to foriegn wind turbine companies to make electric for us and then Charge us a fortune for it.
If we stopped all this crap with global warming, then we could save £250 -£300 a year on our energy costs.
Its nice to know that the people of the UK are paying to save the world on our own
I'd like to know what idiot came up with this.....
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/business/sheffield-ice-cream-van-ban-madness-1-5600044
So with China Opening up a new Coal Fired Power station every day last year, we've managed to come up with Banning Ice cream Vans from the Roads in Sheffield :|
Crazy
Global Warming is all about £££££'s not saving the planet, People in the energies are Raking in Billions in so called green charges, we're giving away millions of £££'s in grants to foriegn wind turbine companies to make electric for us and then Charge us a fortune for it.
If we stopped all this crap with global warming, then we could save £250 -£300 a year on our energy costs.
Its nice to know that the people of the UK are paying to save the world on our own
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You have to understand the scale, we are talking about the whole atmosphere of the planet. There is going to be no significant changes within 100 years so there is nothing to worry about. Global warming is a scare tactic for governments and global fuel and material suppliers to bump up prices and make a killing in their lifetime. I could almost guarantee there is trillions of litres of oil left untapped, just the oil companies and a-like realise instead of racking up the costs of searching for all of it, its easier to put the price up for the meantime so that when it comes to investing 100 billion into finding new source 'when' IT IS NEEDED its not a problem because they have made trillions of pounds in the run-up. THINK If there actually was a shortage for resources on the planet then the most powerful people in the world would be doing something about it, instead of telling people to stop using 10/20 more litres in the week when driving or turning off your power sockets to save a couple watts of power p/hour.
Things that make you go hmmmm... i;m open to debate i have an answer for every question
Things that make you go hmmmm... i;m open to debate i have an answer for every question
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Merchant UK
I think it would be cheaper to prevent babies being born, think of all the greenhouse gases from those smelly nappies.
The only way to reduce global warming is not by paying excessive green taxes but to control the world population which is getting out of control
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Yes you are very right but we should concentrate on both the ideas as both will return us some reduction or may be more than just some.
~Controlled population
~One tree on controlled births
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the only way ? to reduce global warming ? to control population ?
i can only guess the above is a joke.
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Couldn't agree more. My wife refused to reduce, so I refused to reuse her and off she went for recycling. Old cow. Farted a lot too, which adds to carbon dioxide terribly.
Now looking for a pre-used , economy size replacement as you suggest, but not too economy size or she won't be able to carry all the recycling to the depot, (I won't insure anyone else on the Cayenne, so it's shanks pony for her).
Now, must get on with recycling some sad old platitudes about wind driven salvation. Excuse me.
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hmmm
why not just say reduce and not pollute, recycle and reduce waste.
why does anyone feel the need to bring up carbon dioxide when talking about reducing waste or stopping pollution?
i have no issue with stopping pollution and reducing waste. but to use carbon dioxide as a bribe , or little back hander when in reallity you dont honestly know what it has to do with anything is pointless. its as bad a persil showing me clean clothes from there powder 30 years ago then today showing me dirty ones from there last powder..... lies to take and play with my mind
well it doesnt work so stop it
why does anyone feel the need to bring up carbon dioxide when talking about reducing waste or stopping pollution?
i have no issue with stopping pollution and reducing waste. but to use carbon dioxide as a bribe , or little back hander when in reallity you dont honestly know what it has to do with anything is pointless. its as bad a persil showing me clean clothes from there powder 30 years ago then today showing me dirty ones from there last powder..... lies to take and play with my mind
well it doesnt work so stop it
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I'm genuinely not trying to attack anyone but it seems like this conversation is a microcosm that represents the macrocosm of politics around this subject. People get offended too easily but simultaneously people also nag people for small issues and demand the adhere to certain "truths"
In my mind and personal opinion there is one truth: What we're doing is going to run out.
My grandchildren (I'm 25) are most likely not going to have fossil fuels so I want to help find other avenues to give them the comfortable life I've been so fortunate to receive.
The points about the windfarms was interesting. If you don't like windfarms then I'd suggest supporting tidal farms? Maybe solar panel research? Seems dangerous to do nothing, even if all you do do is lend support to some businesses trying to make improvements in renewable technology.
Gotta agree with the overpopulation, needs to stop being a tabboo subject for politicians but good luck making it acceptable to talk about in our current culture, we're in another baby boom!
In my mind and personal opinion there is one truth: What we're doing is going to run out.
My grandchildren (I'm 25) are most likely not going to have fossil fuels so I want to help find other avenues to give them the comfortable life I've been so fortunate to receive.
The points about the windfarms was interesting. If you don't like windfarms then I'd suggest supporting tidal farms? Maybe solar panel research? Seems dangerous to do nothing, even if all you do do is lend support to some businesses trying to make improvements in renewable technology.
Gotta agree with the overpopulation, needs to stop being a tabboo subject for politicians but good luck making it acceptable to talk about in our current culture, we're in another baby boom!
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hmmm
did you know
proxima centauri is ONLY 4.2 light years away
great news dont you think ?
what has this to do with anything i hear you ask
well
look at the words. there seems some issue to me. its that word "only".
it makes my mind believe its close . its not.
planes, tv, internet, phones and words describing space make us believe things are smaller than they are. cities full of people herding the trains roads and underground. our eyes believe there is no room.
but is there no room ?
proxima centauri is ONLY 4.2 light years away
great news dont you think ?
what has this to do with anything i hear you ask
well
look at the words. there seems some issue to me. its that word "only".
it makes my mind believe its close . its not.
planes, tv, internet, phones and words describing space make us believe things are smaller than they are. cities full of people herding the trains roads and underground. our eyes believe there is no room.
but is there no room ?
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Yes the room we do have is too full, if not then we would not have to use such intense methods of food production.
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hmmm
i read this today
Last week the ultimate warmist zealot among the political class, Tim Yeo MP, 
executed a spectacular volte-face. In 2009 Yeo said: "The dying gasps of the deniers [sic] will be put to bed. In five years' 
time no-one will argue about a man-made contribution to climate change." Now, four years later, he is saying: "Although I think the evidence that the climate is changing is now overwhelming, the causes are 
not absolutely clear. There could be natural causes, natural phases that are taking place." Within the Anthropogenic Global Warming hierarchy, that retraction is broadly akin to Richard Dawkins joining the Cistercian Order.
Last week the ultimate warmist zealot among the political class, Tim Yeo MP, 
executed a spectacular volte-face. In 2009 Yeo said: "The dying gasps of the deniers [sic] will be put to bed. In five years' 
time no-one will argue about a man-made contribution to climate change." Now, four years later, he is saying: "Although I think the evidence that the climate is changing is now overwhelming, the causes are 
not absolutely clear. There could be natural causes, natural phases that are taking place." Within the Anthropogenic Global Warming hierarchy, that retraction is broadly akin to Richard Dawkins joining the Cistercian Order.
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This is a valid point, wastage of food is terrible but people are not trained how to re-use foods, plus the fact that you cant really re-use half of a ready meal
Food habits are getting worse IMHO, partly the reason for the increase in obesity. People were fittest just after WW2, and maybe we should all go back to repair and re-use methodology.
On the other hand, supermarkets are finally getting to grips with giving away their overstocked and previously wasted foods now which is a good start.
Maybe we should bring back food rationing??
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How is that going to stop global warming?
Anyway what's that going to do? How are the logistics of moving huge amounts in small bits from millions of locations to other locations going to work?
Bear in mind the vast number of Health and Safety and other regulations that have to be obeyed. Also consider the carbon footprint of this exercise which would be significant.
An alternative, composting, gives off Carbon Dioxide which, ahem, leads to Global Warmering. (Gasp).
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You should read more.
Based on what I have learned, we need to invent filters for cattle and bacteria farts because no amount of human input can top these for heating the place up.
Oh and stop wasting time / resources / money / effort with glorified windmills with the sole purpose of shutting up the green 'voice'.
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They are efficient.
Unless there is no wind. Or too much wind. Or it's windy when there is no demand.
And, being the UK, unless there is the wrong sort of wind. Of course.
Silly me, I too that seriously. But it's just a puff (ho ho) website for a book with links to a well-known-bookseller-that-pays-no-tax
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hmmm
maybe thats what killed the dinosaurs. they farted to much. i mean they were so large bigger than cows.the world today would be screwed if they were still around trumping us all to death. good job they are not around isn't it.
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MASSEY
There are numerous things that added to the demise of the Dinosaurs, there size being the biggest one. Once the Asteroid had devastated the planet and blocked out the sun the food chain collapsed which meant that large creatures couldn't sustain the calorie intake.
Dinosaurs farting is not the reason we should be glad they are not around today
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hmmm
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Dinosaurs farting is not the reason we should be glad they are not around today
they built the pyramids
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I believe in order to help this planet people need to be more logical. The problem with using your head and thinking long-term is that you can come across as cold, harsh and distant. Compassion tells you that everybody should be free and be allowed to do what we want so long as its not hurting anybody else. However, not having a cap on the amount of petrol you purchase or being restricted to eating less everyday would be a breach of our human rights.
If a politician came in and enforced some strict laws which would actually benefit us and the planet in the long run, then they would have to face the backlash at the next election and more importantly they will be portrayed as a dictator who wants to control everybody's lives. If there were no disastrous consequences for them to doing what's best for the future generations then I don't think we would face the same problems we will be facing in the future regarding the lack of opportunities for people, particularly teenagers, and the destruction of this planets eco-systems. Democratic states, although great for us, have incredibly large Eco-footprints and will cause a lot of debt to the economy for future generations. Going to the extreme with humans rights seems to have a devestating cost on a country's economy. Good examples include not being able to send home immigrants who don't contribute and just take take and take and, of course, prison. I think we are being too compassionate for our own good just trying to please everybody.
If a politician came in and enforced some strict laws which would actually benefit us and the planet in the long run, then they would have to face the backlash at the next election and more importantly they will be portrayed as a dictator who wants to control everybody's lives. If there were no disastrous consequences for them to doing what's best for the future generations then I don't think we would face the same problems we will be facing in the future regarding the lack of opportunities for people, particularly teenagers, and the destruction of this planets eco-systems. Democratic states, although great for us, have incredibly large Eco-footprints and will cause a lot of debt to the economy for future generations. Going to the extreme with humans rights seems to have a devestating cost on a country's economy. Good examples include not being able to send home immigrants who don't contribute and just take take and take and, of course, prison. I think we are being too compassionate for our own good just trying to please everybody.
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hmmm
how do you know?
how do you know global warming is happening?
what if i told you global cooling is more likely to happen very soon
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hmmm
http://www.sott.net/article/266440-Wrong-Al-Gore-predicted-Arctic-summer-ice-could-disappear-in-2013
possible no ice in 2013 from 2007
possible no ice in 2013 from 2007
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hmmm
then there is this
http://www.sott.net/article/266454-Earth-gains-a-record-amount-of-sea-ice-in-2013
record ice 2013 from 2013
http://www.sott.net/article/266454-Earth-gains-a-record-amount-of-sea-ice-in-2013
record ice 2013 from 2013
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Global warming isn't new. Ever since the end of the ice age the earth has been warming even without humans help. Its a natural event as the sun is getting hotter and eventually the Earth will end as we know it regardless of what we do or don't do. Humans must move that little bit further away from the sun then the earth is now. Anyone for that one way trip to mars ?
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1.) Global warming is showing its results - glaciers are melting, season circle is changing, Sun burn , skin cancers are all arising because of global warming.
2.) We need to check on pollution, plant more trees and should concentrate on recycling.
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