How to find a particular website template, not wordpress !

[Zono]

Hi
Looking to find out what templet this website this based on. I found it by accident, although I also work within property rentals.
http://www.tenimic.com

Reason for this is that I have paid a web designer a lot of money and he designed the website using this template. I'm very mad and before I confront him, I need to have all the info. I realised I made mistake when I made the first £1k payment. It took way too long for him to finish the site it and still has issues. Very slow to respond and not satisfied with overall service. The website looks good but needs further work.
I don't really have any more money to spend on a developer for now so have to stay with him.

 

[Paul Murray]

It is, or is based on, Homely.

 

[Sam@UTS]

I've just pulled this from the CSS theme file on that site:

/*
Theme Name: Homely
Theme URI: rypecreativeDOTcom/
Author: Rype Creative
Author URI: rypecreativeDOTcom/
Description: Real estate theme
Version: 1.0
License: GNU General Public License v2 or later
*/


Sorry you've had a bad experience with this web developer, I hope things work out in the end

 

[Zono]

Thanks for that! Hoping to switch over as soon as I can so will get in touch with you for sure. Since he has access to my hosting account, is there a way to back up all the files in case he goes nuts and deletes it off?

 

[Paul Murray]

If you can log in to your site, you can export the content from there using the All in One Migration Plugin.

One of the issues with Wordpress is it makes it hard to spot the real developers from the cowboys. I speak to a lot of people who are happy with what they've got, but probably overpaid for the amount of work that was actually involved.

 

[Zono]

It's not a wordpress site, its an HTML, does have admin panel but no way to copy or export content. I was told it has to be done from the hosting site where the files are kept.

 

[Paul Murray]

Then you'll need access either to the hosting account, or the ability to access workspace where the site is hosted, such as through FTP or SSH. I would imagine it's running on some form of CMS, could be using Laravel or something, I can't tell. It almost certainly won't be hand-coded HTML.

What does the contract say about cancellation or disputes? What did you actually agree to pay for?

£1k seems high for adapting a template, but I don't know the ins-and-outs of what he's actually done based on what you both agreed. If he said he'd give you a bespoke design but instead adapted a template, well that's not a bespoke design.

 

[Zono]

I have actually paid more than a £1K. I went with an overseas company as it was more than 50% much cheaper than any quotes I got from UK based designers. The agreement was based on the providing a bespoke website with custom features. I would say 60% has been delivered but extremely slow with a number promised features not delivered. Have heard a lot of amateur excuses from him but its too late to do anything now.
I was literally searching the internet on a particular property and came across the site mentioned above and realsied that its the same template.

 

[mattk]

What makes you say it isn't Wordpress?

If you go to your URL with /wp-admin on the end, do you see anything?

 

[Zono]

access to my admin is www.myurl.com/admin

 

[Paul Murray]

This is really an issue you need to take up with the designer. What I class a bespoke design may not be what you've both agreed on, but this doesn't sound bespoke, more an adapted template. There's normally a reason why work is cheap, and country of origin isn't always the sole reason.

There's also the issue of intellectual property, you may not actually have the right to take a copy of the site as a back-up until you've fully paid for the project. Again, this may depend on the agreement. I retain all rights to my work until a project is fully paid for, they may do the same (or their country laws may cover them).

 

[fisicx]

It's not a wordpress site, its an HTML, does have admin panel but no way to copy or export content. I was told it has to be done from the hosting site where the files are kept.

It's not HTML. It's a dasebase driven site overlaid with a not very good theme. Which means you can't expert anything. Which means you are stuffed either way.

The site isn't very good at all. Going over seas to save you money probably means you have ended up with something that will cost twice as much to fix. sorry to be bearer of bad news but you ain't got nuffin' useful.

 

[Zono]

It's not HTML. It's a dasebase driven site overlaid with a not very good theme. Which means you can't expert anything. Which means you are stuffed either way.

The site isn't very good at all. Going over seas to save you money probably means you have ended up with something that will cost twice as much to fix. sorry to be bearer of bad news but you ain't got nuffin' useful.

Yes, I have now realised that I have been semi stuffed! hoping the business does well so I can invest in a new website. To be fair, everyone has complemented me on the visual side of the site as he followed my instructions on the layout. there are some issues on usability which has been asked to fix for last 3 months !!!!!

When sending my website brief to UK companies, I was getting quotes of £6K to £25K!!!!! just made more sense to go overseas at the time as I was trying to avoid WordPress due to issues with bugs, viruses and security.

 

[fisicx]

They may have complimented you but there are a whole bunch of issues with the structure, layout (and colours) that will prevent the site delivering the expected results.

Website reviews are only for full member so I can’t provide some suggestions on this thread.

 

[Zono]

For copying the website files, I m using Filezilla, Do I just download the main directory with a folder icon and / ?

It seems there are a lot of files.

 

[fisicx]

That's probably not going to work. If the site uses a database to manage the content then downloading all the files won't achieve much. If the site doesn't use a database then it's pretty useless.

 

[Paul Murray]

For copying the website files, I m using Filezilla, Do I just download the main directory with a folder icon and / ?

It seems there are a lot of files.

You might be looking at the root folder of the server, not the folder your site is situated in, it depends where and how it's hosted. Site files are usually stored in a folder called 'www', 'htdocs' or 'public_html', it depends on the hosting environment and I can't really advise without knowing for sure or seeing it myself. But be very careful, if you are viewing the Linux install then making a change or deleting something can have dire consequences.

As fisicx says, if the content is stored in a database then you'll need that too. Have you spoken to the developer about the issue? I wouldn't appreciate a client doing something like this without consulting me. You might be burning any bridges with this developer by doing this.

 

[Zono]

Just want to have a back of the files in case he removes decides to get nasty and remove or change something! he hasn't responded to any of my last 10 emails and text messages now. few urgent issues on the site needs attention

 

[fisicx]

OK But all you will probably be getting is the theme files. All $19 worth: https://themeforest.net/item/homely-real-estate-html-template/19542302

As Paul suggests, make sure you are in the right folder otherwise you could end up with all the files on the server.

 

[Zono]

he created a folder and uploaded via remote server! There is one main folder where the website is pointed at on my hosting panel with 10/12 subfolders such as:
Applications
Assets
Theme

 

[fisicx]

Well the theme is probably in the 'theme' folder. You just need to look in the others to see what's there. I suspect the images are all in the 'assets' folder.

Do you want help with this?

 

[UKSBD temp]

Well the theme is probably in the 'theme' folder. You just need to look in the others to see what's there. I suspect the images are all in the 'assets' folder.

Do you want help with this?

Are you looking at the Op's site or the one he compared it to?

Op, is the site you mentioned yours?

 

[Zono]

Are you looking at the Op's site or the one he compared it to?

Op, is the site you mentioned yours?

No thats not my site.

 

[UKSBD]

Sorry, previous reply was from my hospital account (must be signed in with that when on mobile, will sign out and not use it again)

Thanks for clarifying OP, I didn't think it was but it was quite confusing.

I have a number of static sites which I have borrowed Wordpress stylesheets, javascripts, etc for.
People initially looking at them or even looking at the code could easily assume they are running on Wordpress.

Likewise I have Wordpress sites with everything stripped out of the head so people might not even know they are on Wordpress

Your site may not be on Wordpress at all, and may not even be database driven, you need to clarify what exactly it is before people can really give advice

 

[Zono]

The front end seems to be the theme mentioned earlier on this thread, back-end or admin seems to be from the developer. Most probably one he uses for his sites.
I would be happy if he finished what he promised as per to my instructions and what we agreed. all I need is a few revisions and I'm done with him.

 

[Alan]

The backend is aspx ( microsoft ) I can tell that from this sort of crash below.

It is not helpful I know, but the other bad decision ( the first going for cheap offshore ) is not chosing WordPress. If you chose WordPress you could find hundreds if not thousands of competent developers that would be prepared to take on your project and finish it off.

And you would have had a stable and extendible platform. Your concerns about bugs, viruses and security are misplaced.

As it is, you would be hard pressed to find a developer to support you.


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~/Views/admin/Index.aspx
System.Web.Mvc.<>c__DisplayClass1a.<InvokeActionResultWithFilters>b__17() +23

 

[UKSBD]

Are you sure you are not looking at the wrong site?
The one in the OP isn't the original posters, it's the site he is comparing his to

 

[Alan]

I was looking at http://www.tenimic.com from the OP - didn't notice mentioning it wasn't his site or see an alternative URL, edit but re reading his post I think he is saying he stumbled on it looking exactly like his site? Do you know what the
right site is?

 

[UKSBD]

I was looking at http://www.tenimic.com from the OP - didn't notice mentioning it wasn't his site or see an alternative URL, edit but re reading his post I think he is saying he stumbled on it looking exactly like his site? Do you know what the
right site is?

it was quite confusing seeing the replies, i think others assumed it was his site too.
No, I don't think the OP has said what his site is

 

[Zono]

http://www.tenimic.com is not my site. I'm not going put my site here. its still an ongoing issue with the developer and I don't want any negative comments on the site to be public!!

 

[Zono]

The backend is aspx ( microsoft ) I can tell that from this sort of crash below.

It is not helpful I know, but the other bad decision ( the first going for cheap offshore ) is not chosing WordPress. If you chose WordPress you could find hundreds if not thousands of competent developers that would be prepared to take on your project and finish it off.

And you would have had a stable and extendible platform. Your concerns about bugs, viruses and security are misplaced.

As it is, you would be hard pressed to find a developer to support you.


[InvalidOperationException: The view 'Index' or its master was not found or no view engine supports the searched locations. The following locations were searched:
~/Views/admin/Index.aspx
System.Web.Mvc.<>c__DisplayClass1a.<InvokeActionResultWithFilters>b__17() +23

I believe it is aspx, i think it was mentioned in the correspondence

 

[Inva]

If your site looks like that, as was told above, that's not at all bespoke. Furthermore if the relationship goes sour i doubt getting the files will do you any good, as if the developer is using some funky hybrid back end then another dev who drops in to replace will need to spend time understanding what's going on, and in most cases it may be best to start over than to continue like that as it can cost even more than starting from scratch.

The good news is, if you are happy with this design then you can install WP with that theme. Of course that has nothing to do with "bespoke" and it's not at all original, but at least you won't be changing the look, if that is something that interests you.

I would advise before working with developers who aren't in your immediate vicinity (whom you can physically visit), first give them a small job as a test and see how it goes, then move to bigger projects.

 

[Paul Murray]

The good news is, if you are happy with this design then you can install WP with that theme. Of course that has nothing to do with "bespoke" and it's not at all original, but at least you won't be changing the look, if that is something that interests you.

The site in question is modified. I've seen it and it doesn't look much like the original theme, aside from layout and functionality.

 

[Inva]

The site in question is modified. I've seen it and it doesn't look much like the original theme, aside from layout and functionality.

Then i'd suggest to try and soldier it out, see if things improve. But don't pay more than you're getting. It's hard to understand this situation though, makes no sense for the developer to just take your money and not do the job. That would mean you won't return to pay more to them... so then why do it?

 

[Zono]

Then i'd suggest to try and soldier it out, see if things improve. But don't pay more than you're getting. It's hard to understand this situation though, makes no sense for the developer to just take your money and not do the job. That would mean you won't return to pay more to them... so then why do it?

He was promised to do furher work but again hes gone missing. I am going to ask for some refund but i doubt he will pay and as he is so far away in a dodgy country, my hands are tied. Even if i ask a local developer to jump in, will take a long time to figure out what he has done and what needs to be done.