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Blaby Loyal
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- #45
Have you seen the cauliflower 'rice' you can get? I don't know if you could do some kind of mash with that? also, you could consider painting a smiley face on your plate, if it's looking miserable.
I'm going to try and avoid the 'special' substitutes but the idea of half a cauliflower with a bit of grated cheese on it is sounding good. I had some buttered cabbage the other night which was good.
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A soft cheese - mascarpone or ricotta usually. With the usual butter and milk to start. Just make it like a white sauce but add soft cheese instead of flour.
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As a runner who is older now I have to watch what I eat to still be able to do it .
I don't eat sugar, chocolate, fatty foods ,processed foods or anything like that
I lost my dad as he had this type 2 problem along with other things and I am very aware of that
here is a typical day
Overnight oats with fat free yoghurt and strawberry's + coffee
punnet of cherries
cup of tea 3 rich tea biscuits
punnet of grapes
chicken with salad
coffee with 3 rich tea
fish with veg and potatoes or maybe a curry or meal with home made fat free sauce or flavouring
during the day I will also eat oranges /apples and have a Science in sport energy bar with an sis energy drink before training .
I do have a bit of wine at weekends I last had a MC Donalds in November 2016 when I was very angry about something
I don't eat sugar, chocolate, fatty foods ,processed foods or anything like that
I lost my dad as he had this type 2 problem along with other things and I am very aware of that
here is a typical day
Overnight oats with fat free yoghurt and strawberry's + coffee
punnet of cherries
cup of tea 3 rich tea biscuits
punnet of grapes
chicken with salad
coffee with 3 rich tea
fish with veg and potatoes or maybe a curry or meal with home made fat free sauce or flavouring
during the day I will also eat oranges /apples and have a Science in sport energy bar with an sis energy drink before training .
I do have a bit of wine at weekends I last had a MC Donalds in November 2016 when I was very angry about something
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You're lucky to still be getting overnight oats at your age.
Someone earlier in this mentioned that fat free yoghurt contains quite a bit of sugar. I've been eating fat free yoghurt on my morning toast for years and just assumed that it didn't contain sugar until I looked more closely at the label this week.
I used to make my own yoghurt years ago and it shouldn't contain any sugar at all
You're lucky living where you do if you want to eat fish as I live as far from the sea as it's possible to get and there is no such thing as "fresh" fish up here
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Blaby Loyal
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- #53
By way of contrast my diet yesterday was:
Breakfast - two slices of granary toast. One slice of cheese and two slices of ham
Snack - 1 x medium banana
Lunch - four quality sausages plus one fried egg plus one slice of granary toast
Tea - 2 x butcher's 1/4lb beefburgers and a 3 x egg omelette
plus about six cups of de-caff coffee throughout the day (green-top milk, no sugar)
Breakfast - two slices of granary toast. One slice of cheese and two slices of ham
Snack - 1 x medium banana
Lunch - four quality sausages plus one fried egg plus one slice of granary toast
Tea - 2 x butcher's 1/4lb beefburgers and a 3 x egg omelette
plus about six cups of de-caff coffee throughout the day (green-top milk, no sugar)
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Milk is a bit of con....skimmed and semi-skimmed milk they remove all the good healthy fats because the public think low fat means healthy. But to make it taste better, they add....SUGAR!
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I have had type 2 for about 15 years after many years being on the border line as well
Two months ago i made a effort to loose weight at 108 kilo today at 95.7 kilo, just eating small portions and using sense plus a fantastic app called Nutra Check that runs on smartphones
see https://www.nutracheck.co.uk/Support/Login;jsessionid=C15B77260430F320694245254A49851C
It costs about £4 per month and counts all food you eat and to save time scans in 99% of shop brought items
I try to keep under 1000 calories a day and have a fast 2 km walk every day and slowly weight is coming off without pain
Daily food
Breakfast Muesli about 50 gram or some other cereal with low calories or boiled egg
Lunch about 4 Ryvita with assorted meat slice or cheese (thin)
Supper whatever is going but small potatoes and meat but plenty of veg
Snacks fresh fruit
Just use common sense and avoid bread/ toast and fried food and 'try to follow some experts plan just do your own thing, if you want a Sunday roast have one but keep the bad things smaller than normal
As i am retired the low amount of exercise pensioners get there is not a need for massive amounts of calories compared to a very active person
Good luck with your plan
Two months ago i made a effort to loose weight at 108 kilo today at 95.7 kilo, just eating small portions and using sense plus a fantastic app called Nutra Check that runs on smartphones
see https://www.nutracheck.co.uk/Support/Login;jsessionid=C15B77260430F320694245254A49851C
It costs about £4 per month and counts all food you eat and to save time scans in 99% of shop brought items
I try to keep under 1000 calories a day and have a fast 2 km walk every day and slowly weight is coming off without pain
Daily food
Breakfast Muesli about 50 gram or some other cereal with low calories or boiled egg
Lunch about 4 Ryvita with assorted meat slice or cheese (thin)
Supper whatever is going but small potatoes and meat but plenty of veg
Snacks fresh fruit
Just use common sense and avoid bread/ toast and fried food and 'try to follow some experts plan just do your own thing, if you want a Sunday roast have one but keep the bad things smaller than normal
As i am retired the low amount of exercise pensioners get there is not a need for massive amounts of calories compared to a very active person
Good luck with your plan
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Hidden sugar in everything! Especially fat free stuff, because of the lies about saturated fat and obesity/heart disease that has become so deeply ingrained in the consumer's brains.
I read something somewhere recently that said some supermarket yoghurts contained more sugar than a can of coke.
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I don't think that's true - they don't add sugar but the natural sugars in milk are in a higher concentration in skimmed milk, because the loss of fat increases the proportion of everything else. Have a look here https://foodwatch.com.au/blog/carbs...-milk-have-more-sugar-than-full-fat-milk.html
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Grew up working on a dairy farm (and drinking the unpasteurised stuff btw) - I've got the inside line on the milk trade and its various levels of corruption!
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Im running between 25 and 40 miles a week last Mondays long run was a twelve miler so almost a Half marathon on one training session !
I can do upto an hour a week doing a few jabs and hooks on the punch bag along with some shadow boxing !
I do a bit of core training a few press ups ,sit ups and do a lot of walking with my wife .
My actual food intake is cleaner than most people ! So a few cups of yogurt wont be a problem
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I'm not saying its not cleaner than most people...but there is just a lot of sugar in that list when you say you don't take sugar. More than 10g of sugar in all those biscuits. Easily half a tonne of sugar in all the fruit.
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One thing being on a diet makes you look at all those symbols on the packets in the supermarket, look at a packet of chocolate biscuits is enough to give you a coronary
Still just looking at pre pack you know the ones "give yourself diabetes" in a box type of thing and the symbols gave a low calorie count that surprised me, until i looked closer and in small white print above the symbols is the words per half pack
What a mean and nasty trick by Tesco, normal behavior to many people would just see the symbols and buy if ok assuming its the whole pack
Still just looking at pre pack you know the ones "give yourself diabetes" in a box type of thing and the symbols gave a low calorie count that surprised me, until i looked closer and in small white print above the symbols is the words per half pack
What a mean and nasty trick by Tesco, normal behavior to many people would just see the symbols and buy if ok assuming its the whole pack
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That's something I would rarely need to do as most the food I eat is whole and everybody know what it is .
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I was watching a TV program about sugar in cereals a couple of months ago and the presenter asked half a dozen school kids to pour out their normal helping of cereal on to a plate.
The crafty cereal manufacturers quote their sugar content per 35g serving but none of the kids' mothers knew what 35g of cereal looked like and every one of them poured out considerably more than that.
They also mentioned that whilst Kellogg printed the wagon wheel of nastiness on their box they refused to do it in colours so that it doesn't stand out
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Cereal makers have a lot to answer for in that respect. They were instrumental in funding research that aimed to give saturated fat a bad name, thus changing entirely the way kids eat. Not only do children regularly get a large dose of sugar and grain-based carbs, but they also get it first thing in the morning, setting up their metabolism in such a way that they will crave the same all day long...
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The Byre
- Original Poster
- #68
This - except that it is far worse than that!
Background - I consume a ton of sugar. In coffee, in beer, there is sugar and I drink at least a litre of very sweet coffee and at least five pints of beer every day.
But then I look at the shopping trolleys of my fellow shoppers as I stand in line and it is nearly all a packet of this and a packet of that, a box of this and a tin of that - and I can't help thinking "Wow! You're eating your way to an early grave!"
We have just had the news that life expectancy is now beginning to fall in parts of the UK and when I look into those shopping trolleys, I understand why!
All processed foods contain a variety of chemicals and most of these over decades will play havoc with your metabolism. These chemicals are usually there to prolong shelf life, though the large amounts of sugar added are there to enhance the taste. As @Gordon - Commercial Finance states, it is placed in places you would hardly expect. Wine, bread, milk, anything and everything!
If you eat bread, you are eating bleach. The Chorley-Wood process requires a massive cocktail of chemicals and artificial hard-fat to get the bread from dough to a finished loaf in just 20 minutes or less.
There is no such thing as white flour. Flour is light grey - until it gets bleached!
Cheap beer is made with syrup, ethanol and water. Cheap wine is grape powder or concentrate, sugar, ethanol and water.
I shall be 68 soon and have zero health issues. I am not overweight and my blood pressure is 100% normal. Other than doing a fairly physical eight-hour day, I do not indulge in any fitness regime. No jogging, no gym work, no beasting up mountains and no risking my life by playing 'Lycra-Nazi' on a bicycle.
The secret to my continuing good health?
Simple - if it came out of a factory and comes in a packet, I am not going to eat or drink it. I make my own beer and bake my own bread from unbleached flour (Marriages Light Spelt). No cakes, cookies or other snacks. No chocolate bars. No yogurts, no soft drinks, no sweeties, no treats, no ice cream other than the ice cream I make myself from fresh cream and local eggs. No cornflakes, no crisps, no sausages. And only dark brown cane sugar.
If it is not a basic food stuff, I don't eat it and I don't cook it for others - and neither should you!
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Indeed!
Best advice for a long life: "eat real food, don't sit idle"!
I think I need to start making my own beer.....
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Portion sizes are a lot to blame for various illnesses. Many are surprised just how little you should have on your plate. I also don't like this whole 'sugar free' or 'sugar swap' stuff. If they've taken the sugar out...what have they put in? I'd rather have the actual sugar back and just eat smaller portions. The same with fruit, you're not supposed to devour 5 apples in one sitting and fructose sugar isn't great for you in large volumes but is perfectly fine in small quantities.
The only thing I have noticed, is it's very difficult to live the organic and healthy life when you're working full time. When I worked full time at a desk, I put on over 2 stone. I was only eating a sandwich, a chocolate bar and a bag of crisps every lunchtime but it turns out, the calories in just that meal would have been enough to last me all day but then I was having a rushed breakfast and a late meal at about 7pm....not terribly bad food but portion sizes were too big and I was sat at a desk all day.
Since being self employed, I'm up and about more and have the opportunity to grab eggs from the local farm and meat from the farm shop. I couldn't do that when I was working, they'd be closed before and after work and I couldn't sit with a box of chops on my desk all afternoon.
There are still many 'bosses' who react with horror if you stand up and go for a walk.....'where are you going then?' or 'oh, he's gone walk abouts again, never at his desk'.
The only thing I have noticed, is it's very difficult to live the organic and healthy life when you're working full time. When I worked full time at a desk, I put on over 2 stone. I was only eating a sandwich, a chocolate bar and a bag of crisps every lunchtime but it turns out, the calories in just that meal would have been enough to last me all day but then I was having a rushed breakfast and a late meal at about 7pm....not terribly bad food but portion sizes were too big and I was sat at a desk all day.
Since being self employed, I'm up and about more and have the opportunity to grab eggs from the local farm and meat from the farm shop. I couldn't do that when I was working, they'd be closed before and after work and I couldn't sit with a box of chops on my desk all afternoon.
There are still many 'bosses' who react with horror if you stand up and go for a walk.....'where are you going then?' or 'oh, he's gone walk abouts again, never at his desk'.
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It is difficult but this summer has been very busy and I myself have done a lot of driving but I still eat the same It is quite simply down to planning and when your used to that you think nothing of it A fridge in the van always helps
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The Byre
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- #72
It's relatively easy and costs less than 10p a pint - and you know what goes into the stuff, so no artificial heading fluid, no artificial sweeteners, real hops and not artificial 'bittering agents' and real malt.
Unfortunately, we do not have the German brewing laws that forbid such additives, so unless you go for an expensive craft beer like the Black Isle beers, you have to brew your own.
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Do you have any info or a guide you could send me? I'm more likely to actually do it if I'm spoonfed at least the basic process rather than having to figure it out for myself.
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I think you need to drink monster energy and listen to radio 1xtras hip hop station ( Im told this is a young persons radio station ) then you will be be buzzin ! I think the young people say "mad up for it "
Im not really helping helping am I ?
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Blaby Loyal
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- #76
The breathtaking incompetence of the good old NHS has struck again this morning.
I've received a letter inviting me to participate on a pre-diabetes prevention programme. I called the department that sent the letter and they confirmed I'd been referred to them following my GP visit last week. The blood test results they had been provided [from February!] indicated that I was in the pre-diabetes range.
I called my GP and can't get an appointment for three weeks and a telephone appointment will be two weeks. The receptionist called up my file and confirmed that the GP has diagnosed diabetes.
The GP uses one scale and the diabetes programme uses another! My February reading was 42 - I presume this is mmol?
The most recent blood tests at the GP were 6.6 and 6.7 - what units are they? I wasn't told these at the GP appointment, merely that I had type-2 diabetes.
One thing you can rely on is that your GP will always let you down.
I've received a letter inviting me to participate on a pre-diabetes prevention programme. I called the department that sent the letter and they confirmed I'd been referred to them following my GP visit last week. The blood test results they had been provided [from February!] indicated that I was in the pre-diabetes range.
I called my GP and can't get an appointment for three weeks and a telephone appointment will be two weeks. The receptionist called up my file and confirmed that the GP has diagnosed diabetes.
The GP uses one scale and the diabetes programme uses another! My February reading was 42 - I presume this is mmol?
The most recent blood tests at the GP were 6.6 and 6.7 - what units are they? I wasn't told these at the GP appointment, merely that I had type-2 diabetes.
One thing you can rely on is that your GP will always let you down.
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How do you know if you are cured?
When I visit the vampire's nest to give blood I am told that all of my readings are that of a non diabetic as the medicines are controlling the diabetes well
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God that must be so frustrating.
May I make a suggestion. Whether you are diabetic or pre-diabetic, a change of lifestyle may be a good thing anyway? Perhaps look at it like that until you can ask for a formal referral to a specialist, and perhaps participate in the programme anyway?
May I make a suggestion. Whether you are diabetic or pre-diabetic, a change of lifestyle may be a good thing anyway? Perhaps look at it like that until you can ask for a formal referral to a specialist, and perhaps participate in the programme anyway?
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