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Ian J

Ian J

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No backups?

There might be some issues if its encrypted (not familiar enough with Windows to know for sure or how likely it is), otherwise there is no reason you cannot take the hard drive out, copy what you want, and then put it back in to get the problem fixed.

Most laptops are designed to allow hard drive upgrades, so it should not be a problem taking it out and putting it back in.
 
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Take the drive out Mount it on another PC go to user folder find her account name and copy data off. Your error is very generic but I doubt a windows 7 boot DVD will fix that. The error is located in the loader could be mbr damage or window's update screw up. On boot you should be able to press f8 get into command line and check from three. New laptop it is. The LG gram is still waiting....
 
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@Ian J, a BSOD is not necessarily a write off. Do you have a system reserved partition?

You could also boot from a LCD/USB for purposes of just getting the photos out. You could use something like Hiren's or if you fancy getting a bit techie :) Knoppix (I'm biased towards Knoppix because I owned the Knoppix site till I sold it a few years ago).
 
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If the problem is the MBR as @Nico Albrecht suggests you can probably fix it from a live CD, in which case use one of the rescue ones. Probably Hiren's as its specifically meant for rescuing Windows systems.

There are lots of alternatives. Knoppix is not all that geeky, but its old and more geared to extensive use rather than just copying some files. There are lighter alternatives, but you will have to create a bootable USB (the same applies to Hiren's).

On the other hand, a rescue CD might be the only way to fix the problem rather than just saving the data.
 
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Hiren is great but be very careful what you do in there. There is no protection like on your OS. You can easily open one of the tools and delete the old drive by accident.

Also once you take the drive out, if it is easy accessible go for it but some drives are deep embedded into the laptop and no fun to get there.

Before you even copy the drive have on the host computer crustal disk installed and check disk health before you copy any data. There a good tool in Hiren as well for that.

If you need a W7 home or Pro DVD let me know we got tons here DVD + USB

In my experience the W7 repair function is poor , same goes with W10 repair function.

If you hook up the drive to a host you might have to assign a drive letter in disk management. Most of the time it doesn't automount.

You can Rebuild BCR registry hive via recovery but in 75% of our cases it never work and I have to fix it by hand and this can take some doing. You are so much better of

1. copy data via enclosure or sata
2. fit a new SSD drive ( ideally Samsung )
3. reinstall W10, yes you can simple use a W10 installer and install without a key, MS transferred all W7 id's over and it will activate
4. copy user data back
5. install apps
 
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gpietersz said:
It was quite popular, although the official site is this, I think: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html
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It used to get well in excess of 10K visitors a day, yes. Nothing compared to some PR8 sites I owned like CSSTopSites and GetFreeWebDesigns though....and some other sites that I can't mention but which had to have the load distributed over multiple servers.

The Knoppix software owes its existence to Knopper. Our site worked closely with him and he was a member at our forums. We generated the interest and the demand.

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@Clinton how did you end up owning Knoppix.net?
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LOL. I've owned lots of great stuff, crazy stuff and whacky businesses in my time. I once owned a network of over 200 sites that was the UK's main lead generation engine for mortgage brokers (though I lost a ton of money on that one!) I've owned pregnancyetc.com (maternity fashion, anyone?), dogtrainingHQ.com ... all kinds of stuff!
 
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99.5% won't be the battery. laptops have the additional battery back and their boot sequence is hardwired from the manufacturer. Even if the bias is back to default settings it would follow hard boot sequence. Desktop are different as they allow for mix and match components and a default bios might have set the default sata to ide or raid.
 
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Nico Albrecht said:
Take the drive out Mount it on another PC go to user folder find her account name and copy data off.....
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I bought a SATA to USB cable for a fiver and connected the drive to my PC and lo and behold all of the files were visible and are now copied on to my PC and therefore on to my RAID backup

Many thanks all
 
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Most common reason why raid is not a proper backup solution also the latest ransome tech goes straight for the network shares not your computer anymore:

RAID Redundancy Has Its Limitations
RAID Can’t (usually) Prevent File Corruption
RAID Can’t Eliminate Human Error
RAID Can’t Stop Malware


Running for years drives. If they are consumer drives and all bought together you can expect failures and they might even fail during the rebuild of the raid.


Just for curiosity what hard drives are you using in your NAS and what raid config. I hope at least raid 5/6 ideally raid 6.

Ian looks like a man that likes to live on the edge and dangerous and fitted Seagate drives in the nas.
 
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Nico Albrecht said:
Just for curiosity what hard drives are you using in your NAS and what raid config. I hope at least raid 5/6 ideally raid 6.

Ian looks like a man that likes to live on the edge and dangerous and fitted Seagate drives in the nas.
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I've had a look at my Amazon orders and see that I bought a Synology DiskStation DS213j 2-Bay Desktop NAS Server and a pair of WD 2 TB NAS Hard Drive - Red drives just over five years ago
 
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Ian J said:
I've had a look at my Amazon orders and see that I bought a Synology DiskStation DS213j 2-Bay Desktop NAS Server and a pair of WD 2 TB NAS Hard Drive - Red drives just over five years ago
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Here are the good and bad points. Synology is quite good and you have 3 options on that nas drive

raid 0 , 1 , jbod fingers crossed it is at least raid 1 but even with raid 1 once a drive causes problems it will image that to the other right away.

WD RED's are rated for 3 years 24/7 and beyond that point they are on borrowed time and will fail one or the other. Red's are just consumer drives with a better firmware. 5 years running is WD black or Gold territory.

Let's say even one fails and you rebuild during that time 5- 10 hours the raid is vulnerable for another failure and if both drives came from the same source they were most likely produced in the same week and fail close to each other.
 
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Nico Albrecht said:
Side nore: raid is not a backup solution by the way.
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Using RAID as your sole data store is not a substitute for backups.

However, if you back up to a RAID NAS it is a backup - so if @Ian J has automatic backup from his PC to his NAS its fine. Although if its only mirroring current data and not keeping earlier backups its got the problems @Nico Albrecht pointed out.

Nico Albrecht said:
he latest ransome tech goes straight for the network shares
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Yikes! Makes sense though.
 
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