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Nope, we are on page 1.
You do know that Google uses different servers in different areas and that these can deliver slightly different results?
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Is that how you benchmark all your customers who you seo, with quotations?
I think we all know that when you are checking your serp positioning it is without quotations.
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webstore
Nope, we are on page 1.
You do know that Google uses different servers in different areas and that these can deliver slightly different results?
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It is believed (albeit we stand to be corrected on this) that Google operate approximately 50 global data centres, with approximately 12~15 in the USA and 1~2 in the UK and each of these will return different SERPs (Search Engine Result Pages).
For example you are never likely to see the results of a .co.uk website in the USA unless it has unique and valued content.
So if you want to appear in the US you'll ideally need a .com ideally on a US IP address (and even then there's no guarantee of appearing everywhere in the US) and if you want to appear in Germany (say) you would need a .de domain ideally on a German IP with a site whose content is in German.
As such each Google Datacenter will serve different results and much determined TLDs (Top Level Domains)
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Nope, we are on page 1.
You do know that Google uses different servers in different areas and that these can deliver slightly different results?
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I get you 10th on page 1
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Disagree with this statement. Many .co.uk sites do well internationally. Looking at the stats for one site I see visitors from all over the world despite the site being a UK only service.
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I have heard a few stories on this subject but it seems for every bad review they have a good review.
Not sure if its a case of staying on top of the developers, we have used Indian programmers for projects before and know how difficult it is to keep on top of them, without been experienced in managaing a offshore developer its going to be very very hard, I would never dream of asking a client to deal with a offshore programmer I wouldnt sleep at night.
Not sure if its a case of staying on top of the developers, we have used Indian programmers for projects before and know how difficult it is to keep on top of them, without been experienced in managaing a offshore developer its going to be very very hard, I would never dream of asking a client to deal with a offshore programmer I wouldnt sleep at night.
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I know I was just saying where it was on mine, its likely no-body will use quotes in search terms, in the many many websites we manage I dont ever recall seeing a click through with quotes.
I get page 2 without the quotes by the way.
We rank Page 1 for Ecommerce Web Design with or without quotes but I know we never get any click through from people using these to search.
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webstore
At a glance they look good and £1195 is not bad for a custom designed site.
In our opinion (not withstanding good SEO) its the graphics designers who can be the making of a good site these days given nobody designs online shop software from scratch these days and everybody is using Magento, OpenCart, OScommerce, ZenCart or whatever.
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The problem is the support (if you read the whole thread). They will create a template and get you to accept this as the 'design'. They then throw a basic ecommenrce package together and deliver it as the completed site.
If it doesn't work they aren't interested. If you want any changes then you pay through the nose. The site will be registered in their name and you have to use their hosting.
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Dreadful company to deal with. Most of it is based in India and so bad is the service and attitude, i want to take the time to write about my own site which i had made for me 3 years ago. for the last three years nothing but problem after problem. The web site is always being hacked into, its almost a weekly thing now, they are a bunch of amateurs, with big ideas, but provide the worst and i mean worst standards.
Please go somewhere else, my mistake, but let it be yours.
Please go somewhere else, my mistake, but let it be yours.
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webstore
Above implies because work is being done India it is not a good place for such work.
We outsource lots of programming in particular Ruby on Rails and css to India are our guys there are brilliant. Just look at our sites below. There's good and bad service in everywhere.
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webstore
They are all completely FREE to list sites and lots of companies and individuals are finding them very useful. We currently have 20 different sites in total (with more in the pipeline) ranging from subjects such as dog-walkers.com , lost-property.com , housesitter.tv etc etc as well as those below
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I think the point that BDW was trying to make is that they are just stock websites using a generic template. They are typical of the Asian outsourcing sausage factories.
They are mostly pretty hopeless at anything innovative and really stuggle with any bespoke coding. Of course there are some great providers but 99% just churn out clone sites.
They are mostly pretty hopeless at anything innovative and really stuggle with any bespoke coding. Of course there are some great providers but 99% just churn out clone sites.
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webstore
If you and BDW are referring to my websites such as those below - correct - they are all templates (my templates - all custom designed in India to my spec) - and are all the same - but used in different applications!
But that's the beauty of my business model - being so expandable - current target being for 100 sites - with 20 so far to date !
Also FYI the site architecture was designed by myself in the UK using Balsamiq.com and the underlying software is Ruby on Rails as used by Twitter and numerous others!
I have even had an email from the Inventor of Ruby on Rails - David Heinemeier Hansson - wishing me well on my project !
All the coding has been done by a brilliant team of guys in India and given I am financing this all myself, it would have never got off the ground if I had to pay UK rates - simply because I could not afford those.
China & India are the dominant growing global economies China for the huge range of products they make and India in part for their software skills - so you should not be decrying India for its software skills !
As was quoted to me in a letter of many years ago from the John D. Rockefeller Foundation "If you want to succeed you should strike out on new paths, rather than travel the worn paths of accepted success".
I think that says it all !
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deangrey
Please tell me who it was im still waiting 2 years later and 12 grand down and no site.
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deangrey
My experience should be shared, its quite simple in figure terms they took 12 grand off me and 2 years later and still my wesite is utter rubbish and they cant get it to work properly after 50 false promises, untold amounts of fobbing off and the absolute refusal to give me my money back, simple!!
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Do you have anything for your £12k and something you can share in this thread so we and others can take a look to see if any of us can help.
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mushroom_jones
We found a lot of their negative reviews on one of the Free Index's review directories when we were doing some competitor research. We responded to one of their clients threads about how unhappy he is with their service and what was left to do on his website still after 12 months. We gave our opinion on how long it should take to complete the outstanding tasks and he actually obtained a quote from us and is now a loyal customer.
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guestreveiwer2012
Webcreation UK is a complete waste of time and money. They hook you in by claiming to be UK's best web design agency, charge half the money upfront, promptly outsource the work to oversees, and never deliver any useful product. They promise 'unlimited revisions', but the oversees designers never follow any of the requests/instructions. If you ask for five changes, you might get one, done badly, if you are lucky.
The business plan seems to be based on the first half of your payment - I wonder how many projects are actually completed. I know I am ready to give up!
The business plan seems to be based on the first half of your payment - I wonder how many projects are actually completed. I know I am ready to give up!
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mushroom_jones
I have noticed this past 2 weeks that they have changed their domain name to webcuk.co.uk. This has probably been done to get away from the negative feedback and press they get online. If you need any help or advice im sure I can assist you.
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bdw
It's actually not inevitable at all. According to their website they are charging £395 for a single webpage and £645 for five to eight pages. I can beat this and just about any of their prices for a website designed from the ground up here in the UK. My prices are quite low but certainly not the lowest in the UK and certainly not unusually low.
English is my native tongue, I understand the vernacular and I know the market. Why on earth would anyone trust a site to these people? It is a myth that small sites like this can only be designed abroad at these prices. How much communication does it take between all parties involved to get a small site designed like they claim, "Custom web design and development (no use of templates - all our work is created from a blank canvas)"
It does not take much figuring to see that what they are offering is just about impossible if all parties are to make money out of it. OTOH I can do the above comfortably myself, keep all of my clients happy and still make a living.
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I chose to have a client's website built by WebCreationUK after reading some positive reviews, which I've since realised were probably fraudulent.
They are an extremely bad company that are ripping lots of people off - so much so that there is now an online petition against them and people are gathering to pursue fraud claims.
They promised a fully functioning website within a time limit, however a year later there was still no website. Every step of the development process was painful and ridiculously badly implemented. They use outsourced coders working in India who are extremely poorly skilled. The standard of web development is honestly the worst I've ever seen in 15 years in the design industry. In summary: Avoid this company at all costs.
They are an extremely bad company that are ripping lots of people off - so much so that there is now an online petition against them and people are gathering to pursue fraud claims.
They promised a fully functioning website within a time limit, however a year later there was still no website. Every step of the development process was painful and ridiculously badly implemented. They use outsourced coders working in India who are extremely poorly skilled. The standard of web development is honestly the worst I've ever seen in 15 years in the design industry. In summary: Avoid this company at all costs.
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