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Hi All,
Disclaimer first - if this project progresses we would take paid legal advice on this, but as we are at the "idea bouncing" stage I wondered if maybe some of the minds on here could give me a steer.
We are looking at launching a product into the UK which is very similar to one that exists in the USA. There it's traded under basically the overarching brand name (this brand has many sub product lines) and very simply the product description. I think the best example I could give might be to say it's like "Cadburys Fruit & Nut". On their packaging in the US they show it with a TM after the name.
Now my understanding is that since fruit & nuts are essentially the main features of the product, that in itself can't be protected/trademarked. However by adding either something unique or the brand name, the whole thing can be protected i.e. "Cadburys Fruit & Nut" or "Dairy Milk Fruit & Nut". However does that still only protect that full phrase, or does that then give them protection over the individual elements too? So for example, could I or could I not launch "Busters Fruit & Nut"? Could a registration for Busters Fruit & Nut be granted alongside Cadburys Fruit & Nut, Green & Black Fruit & Nut, Thorntons Fruit & Nut, etc etc?
My understanding from my very limited experience in the past is that only the whole element including the brand name is protected. In a previous role we had something called <Brand Name> Perfect Fit. Someone launched <Competitor Brand> Perfect Fit and our legal team advised that as that was basically a description of how the product worked, we could try and "frighten" them into stopping using it but if they refused and it went legal we probably wouldn't win.
I understand that we could call it something completely different "NuttyWuttyFruBar" or whatever and protect that but in this instance we want a very clear statement of what the product is as it's completely new and unique to market.
Any advise welcome.
Disclaimer first - if this project progresses we would take paid legal advice on this, but as we are at the "idea bouncing" stage I wondered if maybe some of the minds on here could give me a steer.
We are looking at launching a product into the UK which is very similar to one that exists in the USA. There it's traded under basically the overarching brand name (this brand has many sub product lines) and very simply the product description. I think the best example I could give might be to say it's like "Cadburys Fruit & Nut". On their packaging in the US they show it with a TM after the name.
Now my understanding is that since fruit & nuts are essentially the main features of the product, that in itself can't be protected/trademarked. However by adding either something unique or the brand name, the whole thing can be protected i.e. "Cadburys Fruit & Nut" or "Dairy Milk Fruit & Nut". However does that still only protect that full phrase, or does that then give them protection over the individual elements too? So for example, could I or could I not launch "Busters Fruit & Nut"? Could a registration for Busters Fruit & Nut be granted alongside Cadburys Fruit & Nut, Green & Black Fruit & Nut, Thorntons Fruit & Nut, etc etc?
My understanding from my very limited experience in the past is that only the whole element including the brand name is protected. In a previous role we had something called <Brand Name> Perfect Fit. Someone launched <Competitor Brand> Perfect Fit and our legal team advised that as that was basically a description of how the product worked, we could try and "frighten" them into stopping using it but if they refused and it went legal we probably wouldn't win.
I understand that we could call it something completely different "NuttyWuttyFruBar" or whatever and protect that but in this instance we want a very clear statement of what the product is as it's completely new and unique to market.
Any advise welcome.