Seeking Partnership or Salesperson to Win Home-to-School Transport Contracts for Minibus Company

Jacobomar

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Hello everyone,

I am the owner of a new minibus transport company that specializes in providing safe and reliable transportation for school children who use school transportation. As a startup, I am seeking a partner or salesperson who can help me win home-to-school transport contracts on a commission basis.

If you have experience in the transportation industry and are interested in partnering with me, please get in touch. I am open to discussing the details of how we can work together to grow our business and provide the best possible service to our clients.
Alternatively, if you are a salesperson with experience in winning home-to-school transport contracts, I would be interested in hearing from you. I am looking for someone who can work on a commission basis and help me expand my client base.

Thank you for taking the time to read this advertisement. If you are interested in discussing this opportunity further, please reach out to me via email at [email protected]

Kind regards

Jacob Omar
 

Jacobomar

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This sounds like you want the business built to capacity without taking any financial risk, the ultimate outcome being that once you've reached capacity the salesman is out on his/her ear?

Thank you for your response. I understand your concern, but I want to clarify that my intention is not to build my business to capacity without taking any financial risk.

As a startup, I am aware that it takes time and effort to build a successful business. I am committed to investing my time and resources into growing my business and expanding my client base. However, I am also aware that I may need the assistance of a salesperson to help me reach my business goals.

By offering a commission-based arrangement, I am seeking a mutually beneficial partnership where both parties can benefit from the growth of the business. I am willing to take all the financial risks and invest in the necessary resources to ensure that we can provide the best possible service to our clients.

I hope this clarifies my intentions, and I appreciate your feedback
 
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Sorry, you need to completely rethink your approach.

This really isn't a commission opportunity, its something you need to be paying a professional for up front. The professional in question needs to be familiar with tenders.

Before you do that however, you need to get some insight to the nature of these contracts - in particular payment terns and terminations

The biggest risk factors for you are cashflow and ghe - very really- risk of being landed with a nice fleet of vehicles without a contract

TBH, as an intro you might be best subcontracting
 
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Jacobomar

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Thank you for your response and your candid feedback. I appreciate your advice, and I will take it into consideration as I continue to develop my business strategy.

I understand your point about the financial risks involved and I agree that it is important to have a thorough understanding of the payment terms and termination policies before entering into any contracts.

Regarding your suggestion of subcontracting, I believe it could be a viable option to consider. I will explore this possibility further and see if it aligns with my long-term business goals.

Thank you again for your input, and I appreciate your willingness to share your expertise with me.
 
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    As a generalisation I find that experienced sales consultants that are any good won’t work on a commission only basis. They want the highest possible basic and commission structure.

    Historically you had trades like say, motor car sales where reps would work on lower basics with massive commissions on cars sold but even those days are gone now.

    Finding experience sales staff is really challenging, everyone thinks they can pick the phone up and it will be easy money but it’s a skill like any other professional job.

    Anyone pre covid that was doing telesales from home on button money can find better WFH positions on more money following the change in working. Pay peanuts get monkey’s

    I actually think this issue will rank high on your list after cash flow and GHE

    Good luck
     
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    JEREMY HAWKE

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    I am a transport person but we don't get involved with carting people as they smell and are abusive

    I don't really think you need a high life in the fast lane sales consultant you just need to approach your potential account customers yourself with honesty. Tell them about your business and what you can offer them
    Also a good SEOed website is a good idea for this sector
     
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    As a generalisation I find that experienced sales consultants that are any good won’t work on a commission only basis. They want the highest possible basic and commission structure.

    Historically you had trades like say, motor car sales where reps would work on lower basics with massive commissions on cars sold but even those days are gone now.

    Finding experience sales staff is really challenging, everyone thinks they can pick the phone up and it will be easy money but it’s a skill like any other professional job.

    Anyone pre covid that was doing telesales from home on button money can find better WFH positions on more money following the change in working. Pay peanuts get monkey’s

    I actually think this issue will rank high on your list after cash flow and GHE

    Good luck
    It's actually an industry/ sector specific thing

    My industry is heavily reliant on commission- only. I also happen to know that selling into retail is split between commission agents and employed salespeople. In retail the commission agents will have a portfolio of products to sell.

    Back when I was an employer, one eternal challenge was newbies who wanted a salary to start, then asked to go commission- only as soon as they got established

    Significant factors which make commission- only attractive

    - relatively short sales cycle.
    - defined point of commission falling due
    - ability for the sales person to develop and cross-utilise their own base of repeat business

    In the OPs case, I'd say these things are lacking.

    As an aside, estate agents are currently experimenting with self- employed models- I'm struggling to see how it will work. The cynic in me says it's just agents dumping overheads in anticipation of a market crash.
     
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    MBE2017

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    As an aside, estate agents are currently experimenting with self- employed models- I'm struggling to see how it will work. The cynic in me says it's just agents dumping overheads in anticipation of a market crash.

    A lot of companies are experimenting with new work models, with many people believing the hype of working from home being so good for them.

    Sorry to break the news, but there is not going to be a crash in the housing market, in fact despite everything prices have started to rise again. Even if this small increase was a blip, you only have a 5-8% reduction at best over the last six months, many mortgage products are reducing in cost, although I still think the BoE will increase rates 1-2 more times before they then fall back.

    This time next year housing will be shooting up again, helped with 90-100% mortgages availability.

    OP, the best salesperson for your company should be yourself. Get a telesales person to get the contact info and then take over from there. On your commission only model, the salesperson is taking a financial risk. How long before they get paid before a new contract starts? How do they live in the meantime?

    I used to have between 100-300 guys working commission only many years ago, despite not getting paid for six weeks myself, I paid them all weekly. If the offer is not working for both people, it won’t work.
     
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    If you want someone to help you bid for local authority contracts I'd suggest you a) identify contract opportunities
    b) make sure you have all your information in place ie policies, company information etc
    c) employ an experienced bid writer

    This is not a sales person commission type role
     
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    Local transport contracts are in place in most councils. For you to replace the existing provider you would have to wait until the existing contact is up for bids again. Talk to your local council.
     
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    Sorry to break the news, but there is not going to be a crash in the housing market, in fact despite everything prices have started to rise again. Even if this small increase was a blip, you only have a 5-8% reduction at best over the last six months, many mortgage products are reducing in cost, although I still think the BoE will increase rates 1-2 more times before they then fall back.

    This time next year housing will be shooting up again, helped with 90-100% mortgages availability.

    This!
     
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    Sorry to break the news, but there is not going to be a crash in the housing market, in fact despite everything prices have started to rise again. Even if this small increase was a blip, you only have a 5-8% reduction at best over the last six months, many mortgage products are reducing in cost, although I still think the BoE will increase rates 1-2 more times before they then fall back.

    This time next year housing will be shooting up again, helped with 90-100% mortgages availability.
    "Can we have the budgies, Charlie?"
     
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    bodgitt&scarperLTD

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    Sorry to break the news, but there is not going to be a crash in the housing market, in fact despite everything prices have started to rise again. Even if this small increase was a blip, you only have a 5-8% reduction at best over the last six months, many mortgage products are reducing in cost, although I still think the BoE will increase rates 1-2 more times before they then fall back.

    This time next year housing will be shooting up again, helped with 90-100% mortgages availability.
    Just how much longer do you estimate the can that is the UK housing market can be kicked down the road with Government props such as 90-100% mortgages?

    The reason that prices have only fallen by 5-8% at best is because sellers are sitting tight. They will continue to do so until they have to sell, either because the simply have to move, or they cannot afford the repayments- be that due to remortgaging at a far higher rate, being forced onto SVR, or loosing one or both of their jobs.

    You know that point in the cartoons where While E Coyote has sped off the cliff, and is suspended in mid air prior to plummeting? That's UK house prices right now IMO.
     
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    Personally I sincerely hope that prices fall off a cliff - partly to shut up the muppets who took on multiple 90% mortgages to chase the curve (most have gone quite now).

    More seriously, to help genuine, sincere buyers who just want to create a family home.

    The only people who benefit from rising prices are speculators and those looking to leave the market altogether

    Fortunately I have no plans to sell, so it's all just passing interest.
     
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    MBE2017

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    I would love a price correction, I only posted what I am experiencing in my area. Plenty of people are still selling, good quality houses sell in a day or two in my area. I am a developer, I take houses you probably wouldn’t consider buying, and making them into houses you would be happy to live in.

    I have a daughter and her boyfriend looking to buy their first home atm, even with both on good salaries, even with £20k deposit in the bank, going up at £1.5k per month, I think I will be lending them some on top to allow them to buy. I had wanted them to manage on their own, but prices are staying ahead of salaries atm.

    People can blame speculators etc as much as they want, but it still comes down to a huge lack of supply of housing in this country. Many of those speculators are ordinary people trying to provide for their retirement, good for them. If prices do crash I won’t be shedding any tears, that is the risk people take.

    It is strange how people on a business forum others try to paint certain trades in a bad light, such as builders and landlords etc. yet I doubt anyone moaning states they have ensured their pension funds are not the main speculators in the market. Personally I see no difference in making money in property, as a landlord, a farmer, industrialist etc. Each industry has its clients, each industry attracts those that wish to make money.
     
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    MBE2017

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    The reason that prices have only fallen by 5-8% at best is because sellers are sitting tight. They will continue to do so until they have to sell, either because the simply have to move, or they cannot afford the repayments- be that due to remortgaging at a far higher rate, being forced onto SVR, or loosing one or both of their jobs.

    You know that point in the cartoons where While E Coyote has sped off the cliff, and is suspended in mid air prior to plummeting? That's UK house prices right now IMO.

    I guess we will have to disagree.

    There will be plenty of houses sold, some repossessed, plenty of job losses etc, but the pent up demand will help keep most house prices high IMO. I actually hope I am wrong, if I am I will make a lot more money, but I don’t think I am. Time will tell.

    The BoE base rate will be falling by the end of the year, so a year or two of pain, a blip, nowt much else. Even today mortgage rates are historically low.
     
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    In reality there are few things duller than house price discussion- other thN in the context of the overall economy.

    What i do know with ? % certainty is that we are all just guessing - including leading economists and experts.

    A few years ago I went to a presentation by the chief economist of a major bank - highly respected to this day. He predicted gradually rising prices for 5 years until it peaked off with a soft landing. Lack of supply, etc

    My then business partner pulled him up afterwards and - very politely suggested he was talking bollicks that the market was over-heated and due for a crash, which would be triggered by the lending market drying up.

    The year was 2007.

    Incidentally, in 1988, the narrative was precisely what we are hearing today.

    I'll leave you to guess my guess.
     
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    I would love a price correction, I only posted what I am experiencing in my area. Plenty of people are still selling, good quality houses sell in a day or two in my area. I am a developer, I take houses you probably wouldn’t consider buying, and making them into houses you would be happy to live in.

    I have a daughter and her boyfriend looking to buy their first home atm, even with both on good salaries, even with £20k deposit in the bank, going up at £1.5k per month, I think I will be lending them some on top to allow them to buy. I had wanted them to manage on their own, but prices are staying ahead of salaries atm.

    People can blame speculators etc as much as they want, but it still comes down to a huge lack of supply of housing in this country. Many of those speculators are ordinary people trying to provide for their retirement, good for them. If prices do crash I won’t be shedding any tears, that is the risk people take.

    It is strange how people on a business forum others try to paint certain trades in a bad light, such as builders and landlords etc. yet I doubt anyone moaning states they have ensured their pension funds are not the main speculators in the market. Personally I see no difference in making money in property, as a landlord, a farmer, industrialist etc. Each industry has its clients, each industry attracts those that wish to make money.
    Garden Gate stats here

    5 houses currently for sale in our village - all reduced in the last month

    One previously sold, now un-sold (probably won't go back on the market)

    Only one other sold in the last 6 months

    I've nothing against professional landlords, just idiots who think they have been clever by matching the trend and insist on telling us about it
     
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    If you want someone to help you bid for local authority contracts I'd suggest you a) identify contract opportunities
    b) make sure you have all your information in place ie policies, company information etc
    c) employ an experienced bid writer

    This is not a sales person commission type role
    This
     
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    Most school transport tenders will be coming up very shortly - Get your credentials sorted and get your company onto the Council's Education Transport tender list as soon as possible. Also get your approaches to the private sector colleges and schools before they start working on their plans for next school year.
    As other's suggest - an employed professional who knows and understands the process would be best placed to get this done best, and with the best chance of success for you rather than a commission based agent. It's not a salesman's opportunity - you need a skilled administrator for this.
     
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