Looking for private investor

Hi all,
I am looking for a private investor for property development and wondered if anyone can point me in the right direction.
I have a couple of projects I am working on at the moment and would like an investor to help get things moving quickly.
Both sites have good projected profits and are ready to go as far as planning permission is concerned.
If anyone could help it would be much appreciated.
 
Hi,
We have had experience within the building industry over the last ten years.
We do have a business plan and any investment would be used for the renovation of property to sell or rent.
To be honest we are open to various options - either a full invester in the sense that we would give a % of the overall business as a whole or take an investor for each individual project with a view to % profits on completion.
An example of one site we have is the following
Purchase price at 30% discount £185k to develop into 2 dwellings at a cost of £120k
The property has a combined conservative valuation of £520k on completion
Development schedule 9months
Loan period would be 12-16 months
Worst case scenario - rental income could be upwards of 2k per month.
Investment would be secured on properties.
 
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billmccallum1957

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To be honest Kcdev, your method of explaining worries me....

"Purchase price at 30% discount £185K", why not just say price is £185K? Why the discount? What's wrong with it? Are you directly connected to the seller?

"One site we Have"... is it a cleared site or is it a property? What are you doing for £120K? I could build a house for £120K, you can buy a new build for £120K here in Middlesbrough.

£120K over 9 months works out at around £3K a week, not a great deal is going to get done with £3K a week.

Most importantly, you didn't answer @ethical PR when asked "How much are you investing?".
 
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What are you doing for £120K? I could build a house for £120K, you can buy a new build for £120K here in Middlesbrough.

£120K over 9 months works out at around £3K a week, not a great deal is going to get done with £3K a week.

Most importantly, you didn't answer @ethical PR when asked "How much are you investing?".
This deal does not stack-up! All the property investors I know,work by sense of smell - well, almost. If you are working on individual fixer-uppers, it is a very personal affair. Each property and each deal is sized up, as are the vendors and anybody else involved. Credit and background checks and other measures of due diligence are always involved.

A person involved with flipping properties will be very credit-worthy and as @tony84 says, could get a bridging loan. So the question one has to ask is, why don't you? And why do you need to stretch the work over nine months?
 
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To be honest Kcdev, your method of explaining worries me....

"Purchase price at 30% discount £185K", why not just say price is £185K? Why the discount? What's wrong with it? Are you directly connected to the seller?

"One site we Have"... is it a cleared site or is it a property? What are you doing for £120K? I could build a house for £120K, you can buy a new build for £120K here in Middlesbrough.

£120K over 9 months works out at around £3K a week, not a great deal is going to get done with £3K a week.

Most importantly, you didn't answer @ethical PR when asked "How much are you investing?".

Thankyou for your feedback

Ok it was a generalisation and off the cuff example and whilst I posted on here wasn't expecting to have to put every detail of my business plan on here. Analising my every word really isn't what I posted here for.
I'm interested in your views of course.
Is 220k+ Profit not a viewed as a good return?
I put it at a 30% discount to demonstrate that there would be a good LTV on the property as it stands.
And yes we could all build properties for 120k in Middlesbrough but it is like comparing kebab and steak I think. We are purchasing in an area where property sells very quickly and land alone costs more than the purchase price of this property and planning for new builds is very difficult.
And I have put on the worst worst case scenarios on here and realise if I need to change my approach to a private investor and sell it as best case scenario then lesson learned.
Realistically we are looking at halfing that time but I suppose I always walk on side of caution.
And the 9 months is to allow a generous amount of time for planning amendments. The property will more than likely be completed much much quicker but from experience it is better to over estimate and repay before deadline than under estimate and be penalised for it.
Again this was a general post looking for ways to get in touch with a private investor and full details would be dissected and analysed and all due diligence performed with them.
 
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Thankyou for your feedback

Ok it was a generalisation and off the cuff example and whilst I posted on here wasn't expecting to have to put every detail of my business plan on here. Analising my every word really isn't what I posted here for.
I'm interested in your views of course.
Is 220k+ Profit not a viewed as a good return?
I put it at a 30% discount to demonstrate that there would be a good LTV on the property as it stands.
And yes we could all build properties for 120k in Middlesbrough but it is like comparing kebab and steak I think. We are purchasing in an area where property sells very quickly and land alone costs more than the purchase price of this property and planning for new builds is very difficult.
And I have put on the worst worst case scenarios on here and realise if I need to change my approach to a private investor and sell it as best case scenario then lesson learned.
Realistically we are looking at halfing that time but I suppose I always walk on side of caution.
And the 9 months is to allow a generous amount of time for planning amendments. The property will more than likely be completed much much quicker but from experience it is better to over estimate and repay before deadline than under estimate and be penalised for it.
Again this was a general post looking for ways to get in touch with a private investor and full details would be dissected and analysed and all due diligence performed with them.

If I was to point a contact towards an investment prospect, I would ask questions first, it could only harm one's reputation to offer your "deal" to a friend and for him/her to come back to me and say "what a load of b*ll*cks - what were you thinking?".

For all your protestations, you still failed to answer the most important question, how much are YOU putting into the venture?
 
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    Ok it was a generalisation and off the cuff example and whilst I posted on here wasn't expecting to have to put every detail of my business plan on here.
    I think the problem is that your posts have displayed a very poor grasp of the commercial aspects of investment opportunities such as these, and an almost zero understanding of how investors look at these opportunities.

    That's why people are focusing on the deal rather than on giving you a link where you can get hundreds of investors eagerly wanting dead cert opportunities (like you seem to think yours is). Your expectation of such a link is further evidence of your lack of understanding about how these things work.

    I think the posters above have done you a favour.
     
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    If an investor is looking for a fixer-upper, he or she will scour the pages of on-line estate agents and find exactly the right object and hire builders. I can find plenty of very attractive and lucrative properties that are going to earn £50-£100k simply by keeping an eye on the market.

    The last thing a property investor is going to do, is rely on someone else's judgement!
     
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    I think the problem is that your posts have displayed a very poor grasp of the commercial aspects of investment opportunities such as these, and an almost zero understanding of how investors look at these opportunities.

    That's why people are focusing on the deal rather than on giving you a link where you can get hundreds of investors eagerly wanting dead cert opportunities (like you seem to think yours is). Your expectation of such a link is further evidence of your lack of understanding about how these things work.

    I think the posters above have done you a favour.


    I thought his site was a forum for help and advice? Have I come to the wrong place? I was not expecting a list of investors ready to throw money at me nor was I under the impression I was submitting a pitch for investment on here - it was as I said an off the cuff example and wanting help with going down the private investor route.
    Please explain what your view is and how investors look at opportunities.
    How do I put any project I have across to a private investor to make it look investable if a 200k return does not cut it?
    What key points do I need to get across?
    I have never pitched to a private investor and you all on here seem to think people are experts from day dot.
     
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    What key points do I need to get across?
    Tell them how much YOU are investing. The more money you contribute the lower the risk and the greater the chance of finding an investor.

    In addition, they won't invest until you have planning permission, surveys completed and the project fully costed. And it's likely they will expect you to have put down the deposit on the property.
     
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    It's like this - the very first thing an investor of ANY sort and fort any type of business is going to do, is not look at the house to be flipped, or look at the books of the business he is buying, or read some business plan. No, the very first thing he or she will do is look at you.

    The investor will ask the question, "Can I invest in this person?"

    He or she will do a background check, credit, company history, that sort of thing and they will talk to you about your experience with this kind of deal. That's called 'due diligence' and is what we all should do, to avoid getting burnt, either by a wide-boy, or by a rank amateur who does not know what he is doing. As the Yorkshire lass who works here would say, "I'll suss 'em out and see what they're all about and if there's ought wrong with 'em!"

    Business is always about people. The books, the plan, the numbers, the forward projections - that's all just paper and as the Germans say "Paper is patient!"

    As we all know (or should know!) Eccles in the Goons, had a piece of paper "Wot had eight o'clock writted on it!" In other words, you can write anything on a piece of paper!

    For all your protestations, you still failed to answer the most important question, how much are YOU putting into the venture?
    Or to use another German saying - are you making nails with heads on them? In other words, are you the real thing and are you doing things properly? Is this deal real? When push comes to shove, will you be able to put £100k (or whatever sum is agreed upon) into a holding account for renovation work?

    Or will you be like the guy who was hoping that everybody else would front the money - he thought that all he had to do was put the deal together? That was for a movie and a producer friend of mine said at the time "You know, I lose all sympathy for a man, when I discover that he has no money!"
     
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    I thought his site was a forum for help and advice? Have I come to the wrong place? I was not expecting a list of investors ready to throw money at me nor was I under the impression I was submitting a pitch for investment on here - it was as I said an off the cuff example and wanting help with going down the private investor route.
    Please explain what your view is and how investors look at opportunities.
    How do I put any project I have across to a private investor to make it look investable if a 200k return does not cut it?
    What key points do I need to get across?
    I have never pitched to a private investor and you all on here seem to think people are experts from day dot.

    You seem to be missing the point of all the posts that are offering advice.....what you are reading is what investors are looking for. You may well think that 200K is a great return, but that's the POTENTIAL return and does not equate to what your investor can expect, as you have not told anyone what % they would get for their contribution, what you expect the investor to put in, or what YOU have put in.

    These are all very basic questions, the real due diligence comes afterwards, many (including me) would not even start due diligence until I understood what was on offer.
     
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    Yes I think a good starting place is to define what you are doing more concisely. For example building a house to sell is quite different from building a house to rent. Also with renovations its the same in that there is a market for rental and also one where you transform the property placing it into a new market sector.

    I don't see lack of money invested as a problem as such as I presume your investment would be the work. From watching Homes Under The Hammer such partnerships can work very well but the successful ones all seem to have come from people that had long standing friendships as there is so much trust involved. Perhaps this would be the best starting point?
     
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    Bridging or development finance might be a better option to protect your interests, as you won't need to give away as big a chunk of the business, and they don't really need to have the same kind of "trust" in you as a person - to an extent they just look at the asset (property or potential property). This thread is a little old now but if you're still in progress with this project then give me a shout by PM and we can talk through what options are out there.
     
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