Importing from China for the first time ? This might help.

Import Expert

Free Member
  • Feb 1, 2012
    422
    160
    Chelmsford, U.K.
    Dear All,

    As I deal with a lot of clients importing for the first time, I often see the same questions asked. These are things that perhaps we within the industry take for granted so I thought I would summarise the process from A to B to make it as clear as possible.

    Lets assume that your order is ready at the factory and for arguments sake it is of a size suitable for shipping by seafreight - say a part load shipment (LCL) which is perhaps the most common.

    1) Ask your supplier for an FOB price - This means they will arrange to get goods to the port of export and will almost certainly be the cheapest option in the long run.

    2) Get a quote from a UK based freight forwarder such as ourselves at Woodland Global from FOB Port to delivered door UK. This will ensure no unexpected costs.

    3) Should price be acceptable, confirm the booking with the freight forwader. You need to advise them that you accept the quote, provide confirmation of weight, cube and number of packages, type of goods. Give them contact details for your supplier including name and address, contact number/email and contact name along with any references required.

    4) Ask the forwarder for details of their agent/office at the relevant place of origin.

    5) You also need to decide at this point whether you want the goods insured - Ask for a price for this and again confirm in writing that you require this if acceptable.

    6) Provide the supplier with the forwarders agents details and tell them that they will be in touch.

    7) At this point behind the scenes the UK forwarder will get in touch with their overseas office, who in turn will make contact with the supplier. Once you have paid your supplier they will deliver goods in to the forwarders warehouse at the port of origin.

    8) Goods will be loaded into a container, put on a Vessel and will be on their way.

    9) A bill of lading is issued by the overseas agent, which shows the confirmed shipping details. This is a very important document as the 'holder' of the original bill of lading has legal title to the goods. There are two choices here that you and the supplier have that you need to agree between yourselves.

    a) Have the original bill of lading sent to you in the UK. The overseas agent will issue the originals - (usually three of them) to the supplier. The supplier (once all costs have been paid to them) will post these to you. You will need to present one of the originals to the UK forwarder for them to release/deliver goods to you.

    b) Ask your supplier for a telex release/express release. This simply means that the supplier will inform the agent that they do not require the originals as they have been paid. In this case you will not need to present the originals to the UK forwarder but you should still ask for a copy as it shows the shipment information.

    10) So now the goods are on the water you need to consider getting them to you. Whether you are VAT registered or not, you will need to apply for an EORI number form HMRC, which effectively allows you to import. You need to complete a fairly simple application form that can be downloaded from HMRC website. It will ask for you and your trading details and details of the shipment n question. The form can be emailed to the EORI team at HMRC and they will process and issue this within 48-72 hours. I would recommend doing this a week or two before goods due into the UK. Please note you can only reclaim import VAT as input tax if you are VAT registered - An EORI alone will not allow you to do this.

    11) You may receive a notice of arrival from the freight forwarder a week or so before the goods due into the UK, confirming the arrival details and often asking for your information for customs clearance. Please note that it is not a legal obligation to send out notice of arrivals so you should not rely on this alone - if you know goods are due in imminently call your forwarder and ask for an update.

    12) Provide them with your EORI number, the commercial invoice, the original bill of lading (if required) and the customs tariff code for the goods. The tariff code is a ten digit number that refers to the exact product you are importing and will show what Duty rate you are to pay on the goods. The forwarder will often be able to suggest the right one for you but it is your legal responsibility to ensure this is correct - I would always recommend ringing the HMRC classification department who will provide this over the phone - 01702 366077.

    13) Back to 'behind the scenes' now. The Vessel has arrived, the container has been unloaded and more than often the forwarder will move this to their customs warehouse to unload and carry out customs clearance.

    14) The forwarder should then issue you with a sales invoice covering the shipping costs as quoted (Check it matches the quote - if it doesn't, ask why). You will also get a Duty/VAT invoice for those costs which the forwarder will have paid to HMRC. Here you might see a cost you were not expecting called a 'Deferment Fee'. This will usually be something like £15 minimum or 1.5% of total Duty/VAT. The reason you might not have been quoted this is that you do have the option of paying HMRC direct, although its usually easier to let the forwarder handle it and given the time constraints often a CHAPS is required which can cost more than the deferment fee.

    15) Pay the forwarder. Credit arrangements are rare nowadays unless you are a very established importer so you will need to pay the invoices before they will book delivery. Payment methods vary but usually BACS/CHAPS or internet bank transfer are the most common methods.

    16) Rent charges - This is something you need not worry about as long as you do everything in time. You will usually be given seven days free of charge from the date the container was unloaded (called the devan date) to get goods delivered to you. After this date you will incur daily rent costs, hence the need to be slightly on the ball and not delaying payment, etc.

    17) Confirm delivery. Check payment has been received (don't wait for them to contact you if you know payment has been sent and received as they may handle thousands of transactions a day and they can get lost in the system) and ask when you can have delivery. Depending on location this might be next day or 2/3 days afterwards. The forwarder will usually only be able to give you a rough indication of when it might arrive (i.e. late AM) but you can usually request an AM/PM or timed delivery for a small additional cost.

    18) Unloading. You will need to unload goods from the vehicle as the drivers are not insured to do this for you. Bear in mind factors such as restricted access and restricted parking and be sure to warn the forwarder of these in advance. If it is a large/heavy load, you may need to consider the need for a forklift.

    I hope this guide covers most points you might encounter.

    Please PM me directly or post a reply if you would like free advice related to this

    Kind regards,

    Darren.
     
    Last edited by a moderator:
    Thanks for the advice really needed somebody to explain the process from a to b, been trying to work it out all day. Do shipping forwarding companies quote you an amount based on the following information free of charge?

    So type of good, size of package, weight of package, final destination within the UK. Is there anything else?

    Also is there an import duty as well as a VAT charge to pay?

    I am trying to work out if some goods are going to be viable to import into the UK and so need an accurate idea of costs. Im sure many other people are trying to do the same.

    Thanks, Tom
     
    Upvote 0
    Hi Tom,

    Thanks for the message - Glad its of some use.

    If you are shipping a quantity suited for sea freight (as apposed to small consingments that would be more suited for a courier) You should ask your supplier for an FOB price. This means that they pay to get goods to local Port, e.g. FOB Shanghai.

    You should then get a quote from a UK forwarder from FOB Port to final UK delivery point.

    This is based on the weight or cube, depending which works out higher. Normally 1 CBM = 1000 Kg, so you will need to know what this is or at least have an idea.

    So now you have all your costs from A to B except Duty/VAT and Insurance.

    Some forwarders can offer insurance, others will not be registered to do but might be able to point you in the direction of a broker who can.

    Duty/VAT is the final cost. Duty is a percentage based on the product, e.g. 'widgets' might have a duty rate of 3.7%. Duty is worked out on the CIF price, so Cost of goods + Insurance + Freight to UK. VAT (at 20% at time of writing) is then charged on the same CIF price + Duty + any additional UK costs.

    A useful website to get Duty rates is www.dutycalculator.com. (Note I am not affiliated with this website in any way but it can be very useful).

    So if you plan carefully you then have all the costs involved from A to B, and from that can work out your base cost per unit to see what potential profit per item might be based on the sales price you decide on.

    Kind regards,
    Darren.
     
    Last edited:
    • Like
    Reactions: bookworm64
    Upvote 0
    Thanks for the added information. Just one more question about the quality level and credibility of suppliers out in China. I have found a supplier and he has 2 years experience level on Alibaba and has also had an on site check from Alibaba. So I guess this is enough to suggest that its a legitimate operating business right?

    He has sent me a quote with a MOQ of 10 which is fine, but I would like him to send me a sample first. I was thinking that he could send me one item via airmail and I then once I receive it and ok it on the quality front go ahead with an order of 10. The item weighs 60kg. Clearly I will pay him 100% upfront for the sample to be made and expect it to be a higher price than he has quoted as its a one off.

    Do you think this is viable giving its quite heavy and Airmail is expensive? Also if he says that the MOQ is 10 with no samples what should I do? Do I just have to risk it? Also he is asking for 100% upfront, I know that the normal deposit amount is 30%?
     
    Last edited:
    Upvote 0
    Hi Tom,

    With regards to the suppliers credibility, two years on Alibaba sounds like a good start. Do your normal due diligence, perhaps google the supplier see if you can find any complaints that have popped up on forums such as this. One question i always suggest asking is if they have shipped to a client in the Uk before. If they have, ask them if they would be willing to give you their contact details so you can ask them for a reference of sorts.

    With 60 Kg per item getting a sample shipped over is going to seem quote expensive as its above the norm for a courier but below what is ideal for standard seafreight/airfreight as there are ' minimum' costs involved with these.

    Couriers will usually charge per kilo - This might be way out but you might be looking at $800+ by courier. Seafreight, if you can get them to ship FOB might be £300 ish to door UK, but again the 'minimum' FOB costs might be expensive for teh size of the order and therefore prohibitive. Shipping price for 600 Kg by sea might not be far off shipping 60 Kg.

    I guess much depends on value as to how much risk you take.
     
    Last edited:
    Upvote 0
    ok thanks for that,

    It sounds like im going to have to carry out as much research as possible on the product quality without getting a sample made. If it all stands up go for the MOQ of 10. Going back to estimating the freight forwarding costs with insurance, duty etc rather than just use the website that you posted I have just asked for some quotes from freight forwarding companies (incl woodland). Should this give me an accurate figure as duty calculator.com requires a monthly subscription.

    Thanks, Tom
     
    Upvote 0
    Hi Darren

    Thanks for the great post, it's really usefully.

    I been doing some research on importing on the Gov.uk website. On there it mentions about something called the CHIEF system as well as the NES, SAD and few other abbreviations. All of them seem to have really complicated explanations of what they do and when they are relevant.

    Should I be trying to get my head round these or is this something a freight forwarder would take care of?

    Also my shipments are coming from China and are quite small, I've spoke to a few freight services and they said my shipments are too small to use there service and suggested using a parcel courier service.

    In this case should I be registering my imports on CHIEF or any of the other customs systems?

    Many Thanks

    -Joe
     
    Upvote 0
    Hi Joe,

    Personally I would not worry about these names/codes - They are something that your freight forwarder or courier will deal with.

    The only thing you as an importer would need to register for in your postion, if you do not have one already, ins an EORI number which gives you authority to import.

    Kind regards,
    Darren.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: kcf
    Upvote 0
    Hi Joe,

    Most of the buyers of my book are small importers and they generally use the courier service to do everything for them. Yes, you definitely need an EORI number.

    One thing to be sure of is that if your supplier arranges the courier, which is usual, they MUST quote you all charges including clearance your end. You don't want any nasty surprises.

    In my Importing/marketing business that I ran for 22 years, my franchisees did all their own importing and always used the suppliers' preferred courier. The main reason being cost, because the suppliers shipped such large volumes that they were able to get very favorable rates. The other big reason was that they were dispatching shipments daily with those couriers, so they were sent of quickly.
     
    Upvote 0
    I'm involved in contract outsourcing and supplier approvals of engineering products from China.

    Some great information here. The key thing is limiting 'risk' in
    all the facets; commercial and technical as well as logists and
    have the right GuanXi locally.

    David quitintheoldnow
     
    • Like
    Reactions: Import Expert
    Upvote 0
    Great sticky, been reading with interest as i'm currently considering importing some goods from china, i work in construction and would like to purchase some small plant for use onsite, MOQ means i'll have a surplus for resale, which i feel confident i can manage to do.

    I've read the thread with great interest, my supplier has given me a CIF price to liverpool port and optional insurance price too, all of which seems cheaper than i've managed to obtain from UK companies.

    I have the tarriff code from the supplier and as far as i can see is 0%.

    My question is, am i now ready to place an order?

    I know i'll need to register for an EORI number.

    Am i missing something or about to walk into something?

    Any help and assistance would be greatly appreciated
     
    • Like
    Reactions: Import Expert
    Upvote 0
    Great sticky, been reading with interest as i'm currently considering importing some goods from china, i work in construction and would like to purchase some small plant for use onsite, MOQ means i'll have a surplus for resale, which i feel confident i can manage to do.

    I've read the thread with great interest, my supplier has given me a CIF price to liverpool port and optional insurance price too, all of which seems cheaper than i've managed to obtain from UK companies.

    I have the tarriff code from the supplier and as far as i can see is 0%.

    My question is, am i now ready to place an order?

    I know i'll need to register for an EORI number.

    Am i missing something or about to walk into something?

    Any help and assistance would be greatly appreciated

    You have done well to get this far, but there is still more to do. I teach the whole procedure from sourcing to landing the goods, but here are some important things to note.

    You need to negotiate payment terms. I would advise against any payment via Western Union.

    You will have to pay VAT even if the items are duty free. If you are not registered you will not be able to claim the VAT back.

    Also ensure that everything is in writing.

    Finally, at least for your first shipment I would use a Customs Broker.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: Linesandlevel
    Upvote 0
    Payment are to be discussed when invoice raised, have been given idea of % deposit and balance etc already, yes i'll be avoiding Western union etc, i've read others have had problems etc.

    Customs Broker? i'm beginning to think FOB is the way forward and use a UK freight service as i'm concerened about charges unallowed for here in the UK
     
    Upvote 0
    Payment are to be discussed when invoice raised, have been given idea of % deposit and balance etc already, yes i'll be avoiding Western union etc, i've read others have had problems etc.

    Customs Broker? i'm beginning to think FOB is the way forward and use a UK freight service as i'm concerened about charges unallowed for here in the UK

    It is good to see that you have done your homework.

    If the shipment is coming by sea, or by air freight, there could be some surprises this end, and in that case finding a UK freight forwarder might be a good idea.

    If on the other hand it is being sent via air courier you need not worry about costs this end provided the freight quoted is door to door. Remember all quotes must be in writing even when working with UK companies.
     
    Upvote 0
    i have a question, which forum do you usually use?

    Dear All,

    As I deal with a lot of clients importing for the first time, I often see the same questions asked. These are things that perhaps we within the industry take for granted so I thought I would summarise the process from A to B to make it as clear as possible.

    Lets assume that your order is ready at the factory and for arguments sake it is of a size suitable for shipping by seafreight - say a part load shipment (LCL) which is perhaps the most common.

    1) Ask your supplier for an FOB price - This means they will arrange to get goods to the port of export and will almost certainly be the cheapest option in the long run.

    2) Get a quote from a UK based freight forwarder such as ourselves at Woodland Global from FOB Port to delivered door UK. This will ensure no unexpected costs.

    3) Should price be acceptable, confirm the booking with the freight forwader. You need to advise them that you accept the quote, provide confirmation of weight, cube and number of packages, type of goods. Give them contact details for your supplier including name and address, contact number/email and contact name along with any references required.

    4) Ask the forwarder for details of their agent/office at the relevant place of origin.

    5) You also need to decide at this point whether you want the goods insured - Ask for a price for this and again confirm in writing that you require this if acceptable.

    6) Provide the supplier with the forwarders agents details and tell them that they will be in touch.

    7) At this point behind the scenes the UK forwarder will get in touch with their overseas office, who in turn will make contact with the supplier. Once you have paid your supplier they will deliver goods in to the forwarders warehouse at the port of origin.

    8) Goods will be loaded into a container, put on a Vessel and will be on their way.

    9) A bill of lading is issued by the overseas agent, which shows the confirmed shipping details. This is a very important document as the 'holder' of the original bill of lading has legal title to the goods. There are two choices here that you and the supplier have that you need to agree between yourselves.

    a) Have the original bill of lading sent to you in the UK. The overseas agent will issue the originals - (usually three of them) to the supplier. The supplier (once all costs have been paid to them) will post these to you. You will need to present one of the originals to the UK forwarder for them to release/deliver goods to you.

    b) Ask your supplier for a telex release/express release. This simply means that the supplier will inform the agent that they do not require the originals as they have been paid. In this case you will not need to present the originals to the UK forwarder but you should still ask for a copy as it shows the shipment information.

    10) So now the goods are on the water you need to consider getting them to you. Whether you are VAT registered or not, you will need to apply for an EORI number form HMRC, which effectively allows you to import. You need to complete a fairly simple application form that can be downloaded from HMRC website. It will ask for you and your trading details and details of the shipment n question. The form can be emailed to the EORI team at HMRC and they will process and issue this within 48-72 hours. I would recommend doing this a week or two before goods due into the UK. Please note you can only reclaim import VAT as input tax if you are VAT registered - An EORI alone will not allow you to do this.

    11) You may receive a notice of arrival from the freight forwarder a week or so before the goods due into the UK, confirming the arrival details and often asking for your information for customs clearance. Please note that it is not a legal obligation to send out notice of arrivals so you should not rely on this alone - if you know goods are due in imminently call your forwarder and ask for an update.

    12) Provide them with your EORI number, the commercial invoice, the original bill of lading (if required) and the customs tariff code for the goods. The tariff code is a ten digit number that refers to the exact product you are importing and will show what Duty rate you are to pay on the goods. The forwarder will often be able to suggest the right one for you but it is your legal responsibility to ensure this is correct - I would always recommend ringing the HMRC classification department who will provide this over the phone - 01702 366077.

    13) Back to 'behind the scenes' now. The Vessel has arrived, the container has been unloaded and more than often the forwarder will move this to their customs warehouse to unload and carry out customs clearance.

    14) The forwarder should then issue you with a sales invoice covering the shipping costs as quoted (Check it matches the quote - if it doesn't, ask why). You will also get a Duty/VAT invoice for those costs which the forwarder will have paid to HMRC. Here you might see a cost you were not expecting called a 'Deferment Fee'. This will usually be something like £15 minimum or 1.5% of total Duty/VAT. The reason you might not have been quoted this is that you do have the option of paying HMRC direct, although its usually easier to let the forwarder handle it and given the time constraints often a CHAPS is required which can cost more than the deferment fee.

    15) Pay the forwarder. Credit arrangements are rare nowadays unless you are a very established importer so you will need to pay the invoices before they will book delivery. Payment methods vary but usually BACS/CHAPS or internet bank transfer are the most common methods.

    16) Rent charges - This is something you need not worry about as long as you do everything in time. You will usually be given seven days free of charge from the date the container was unloaded (called the devan date) to get goods delivered to you. After this date you will incur daily rent costs, hence the need to be slightly on the ball and not delaying payment, etc.

    17) Confirm delivery. Check payment has been received (don't wait for them to contact you if you know payment has been sent and received as they may handle thousands of transactions a day and they can get lost in the system) and ask when you can have delivery. Depending on location this might be next day or 2/3 days afterwards. The forwarder will usually only be able to give you a rough indication of when it might arrive (i.e. late AM) but you can usually request an AM/PM or timed delivery for a small additional cost.

    18) Unloading. You will need to unload goods from the vehicle as the drivers are not insured to do this for you. Bear in mind factors such as restricted access and restricted parking and be sure to warn the forwarder of these in advance. If it is a large/heavy load, you may need to consider the need for a forklift.

    I hope this guide covers most points you might encounter.

    Please PM me directly or post a reply if you would like free advice related to this

    Kind regards,

    Darren.
     
    Upvote 0
    Payment are to be discussed when invoice raised, have been given idea of % deposit and balance etc already, yes i'll be avoiding Western union etc, i've read others have had problems etc.

    Customs Broker? i'm beginning to think FOB is the way forward and use a UK freight service as i'm concerened about charges unallowed for here in the UK

    Hi there,

    I'm glad my guide was of use. It's targeted at companies such as your selves who are looking to import for the first time and need a bit of a helping hand (We all do - or at least wish we did, with something new don't we!).

    My first comment which you have touched on since your first post is don't ship CIF/C&F. It will seem very cheap until goods get to the Uk and then you will get stung with unexpected and relatively high UK costs. These act as part of a kickback to the supplier.

    As your supplier for an FOB quote - so they pay for everything up to China Port. Then get a quote from a UK freight forwarder from China Port right through to UK door. That way you get no unexpected costs and only have Duty/VAT and Insurance to add on.

    Deposit/payment wise the 'norm' is 30% Deposit and then 70% before they will release the goods to you. There are variations of this.

    Payment modes - Paypal gives you a huge amount of protection but many suppliers won't accept it (for the very reason that they leave themselves open to getting scammed), in addition they get charged a fee for accepting this method of payment. There are alternatives such as Escrow or even credit card, but a bank transfer is probably the most common. Not a great deal of security but such is life, do your due diligence checks on the supplier, maybe even ask them if they have any other customers in the UK you could contact for a reference.

    If I can help in any way please don't hesitate to PM or message me via the forum.

    kind regards,
    Darren.
     
    Upvote 0
    Thanks for sharing. I have just received my first order via sea freight and with all the extra costs on top to import I have now worked out that on most items the cost was exactly the same as when I shipped via air although 1 product came in 3p cheaper which isn't really something to write home about! I now have to find room for 16 boxes when before I would order on a smaller scale of 3 boxes.

    To sum this up for me I can not really see that this has worked out any cheaper for me and I now have more stock!!

    Just thought I would share with you .

    Kind Regards
    Donna
     
    Upvote 0
    Thanks for sharing. I have just received my first order via sea freight and with all the extra costs on top to import I have now worked out that on most items the cost was exactly the same as when I shipped via air although 1 product came in 3p cheaper which isn't really something to write home about! I now have to find room for 16 boxes when before I would order on a smaller scale of 3 boxes.

    To sum this up for me I can not really see that this has worked out any cheaper for me and I now have more stock!!

    Just thought I would share with you .

    Kind Regards
    Donna

    When you're ready to place your next order :) if you'd like to get in touch, I will be able to give you an inclusive shipping quote so you can judge how much your costs will be before making a decision on the shipping method.

    Glen
     
    Upvote 0
    I also import from China. Another good resource I've found useful is CreditEyes. They are a credit report company - like Experian, DnB, Duedil etc in China. You can order reports on Chinese suppliers - useful for importing obviously.
     
    Upvote 0
    Thanks for sharing. I have just received my first order via sea freight and with all the extra costs on top to import I have now worked out that on most items the cost was exactly the same as when I shipped via air although 1 product came in 3p cheaper which isn't really something to write home about! I now have to find room for 16 boxes when before I would order on a smaller scale of 3 boxes.

    To sum this up for me I can not really see that this has worked out any cheaper for me and I now have more stock!!

    Just thought I would share with you .

    Kind Regards
    Donna
    Hi Donna,
    You have learned your first lesson about importing, but at least it did not cost you.

    As I wrote in an earlier post: "If the shipment is coming by sea, or by air freight, there could be some surprises this end, and in that case finding a UK freight forwarder might be a good idea." Via air courier is another issue.

    I teach my book readers that they should not place an order until they know the total freight costs involved, including inland charges on the supply end as well as broker's fees this end. All quotes must be in writing or you could still get an even nastier shock.

    Having run an exporting business from 1978 to 1987, then an importing business from 1987 to my retirement, I often found air freight to be a better option, even air courier if the consignments are not too big and your supplier has obtained a good deal from the courier service.

    Freight rates are very negotiable, and because of the sheer volume of shipments sent out by some suppliers, the rates they can get can be surprising low. I cannot emphasize enough the importance of knowing all costs before ordering and it is imperative to get everything in writing.

    Also, ensure that everything to do with freight is included in your order. Dot every i and cross every t.

    When comparing costs of sea or air freight options, always take into account the opportunity cost. That is, what return you could obtain from the use of the money during the much longer shipping time if using sea freight. In your case it also demonstrates the need to consider the opportunity cost of the financing of the larger stock purchase.
     
    Upvote 0
    Thanks Darren, you have highlighted some very useful points which everyone should take into consideration before importing goods from China amongst other countries.**The most important thing is to find genuine, reliable and good suppliers; one cannot visit each and every country from where one is importing goods Though one can get help from many trusted B2B portals like gloubalsources.com*and*mangob2b.com.**Since suppliers and manufacturers are rated according to client feedback which helps buyers to choose the best form them thus reducing the risk.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: Import Expert
    Upvote 0
    Thanks Darren, you have highlighted some very useful points which everyone should take into consideration before importing goods from China amongst other countries.**The most important thing is to find genuine, reliable and good suppliers; one cannot visit each and every country from where one is importing goods Though one can get help from many trusted B2B portals like gloubalsources.com*and*mangob2b.com.**Since suppliers and manufacturers are rated according to client feedback which helps buyers to choose the best form them thus reducing the risk.
    Many people are not aware that there is a big online industry involving low cost purchases being paid for by the vendors in order to guarantee glowing feedback.

    The same applies to reviews. Some people make good money posting excellent reviews.

    There is no substitute for doing your own careful research and due diligence.
     
    Upvote 0
    Thanks Darren, you have highlighted some very useful points which everyone should take into consideration before importing goods from China amongst other countries.**The most important thing is to find genuine, reliable and good suppliers; one cannot visit each and every country from where one is importing goods Though one can get help from many trusted B2B portals like gloubalsources.com*and*mangob2b.com.**Since suppliers and manufacturers are rated according to client feedback which helps buyers to choose the best form them thus reducing the risk.
    Many people are not aware that there is a big online industry involving low cost purchases being paid for by the vendors in order to guarantee glowing feedback.

    The same applies to reviews. Some people make good money posting excellent reviews.

    On my website I publish some testimonials and I do something that is rare, in fact I have never seen it done anywhere else. I offer to promptly provide proof of authenticity to any appropriate legal authority in any jurisdiction including the UK. I do this because I know that many online testimonials are fake, but mine are genuine.

    There is no substitute for doing your own careful research and due diligence.
     
    Upvote 0
    Thank for this thread, actually it is very much in the detailed that understands total process of importing. is there nay one who can suggest good freight service.
     
    Upvote 0
    Thank for this thread, actually it is very much in the detailed that understands total process of importing. is there nay one who can suggest good freight service.

    We have been shipping freight from China since 1994. If anyone needs any advice, please feel free to contact us.

    Glen
     
    Upvote 0
    I also import from China. Another good resource I've found useful is CreditEyes. They are a credit report company - like Experian, DnB, Duedil etc in China. You can order reports on Chinese suppliers - useful for importing obviously.
    Credit Eyes is a Chinese company whose website is in Chinese. Translations from Chinese can be very confusing. I have tried unsuccessfully to establish the credentials of Credit Eyes and therefore would not place reliance on their reports. They may be well established and reliable, but I would need convincing.

    I would suggest careful due diligence on any prospective supplier.
     
    Upvote 0
    Had some great help and info from Darren at Woodland Global ( user Import Expert) on importing something from China for the first time, thanks!
     
    • Like
    Reactions: Import Expert
    Upvote 0
    Darren, thank you for your post! It is very useful indeed!

    I wonder if you or anyone here could help me with the simplest way to deal with VAT and to structure a company that is based outside of the UK/EU that will import electronic products from China into the UK to be sold to retailers.

    - Our company is HK registered, 2 directors, both currently live in Hong Kong. 1 is a HK citizen, and the other a British Citizen (me).
    - We will ship the goods by air using courier door to door service.

    Do I still need to apply for an EORI number?

    My understanding is that my co. cannot register a VAT account and I have to pay duty and import VAT (20%) as soon as the goods arrived in UK, is that correct?

    If yes, how do I claim back my VAT when I am selling to the retailers? It doesn't make sense to me that both me and my consumers need to pay VAT...

    It would be greatly appreciated if someone could explain to me how the VAT 'cycle' works for imported goods. Ideally help me to understand which point VAT is paid/processed. i.e:

    - how does the whole process of reclaiming import VAT as input tax work?
    - If I sold my goods to retailer, I will be able to claim back the Import VAT if I have a register VAT account, is that correct?
    - When would I able to claim back the money?
    - When selling to retailers in the UK, do I need to issue them a VAT receipt so they can claim back tax? So that I can also claim back the tax as well?

    Regarding the company structure,
    Is it possible for foreign companies to be a supplier in the UK without going through a 3rd party agent or distributor? In order to gain full control of this and not pay a commission, does setting up a limited company in the UK make sense?

    Many thanks for any help you're able to give me, or any links you may link me to. It is greatly appreciated! As you can tell I am somewhat new to importing into the UK as a foreign company.

    Kind regards,
    JE
     
    • Like
    Reactions: greiga
    Upvote 0
    Many thanks for any help you're able to give me, or any links you may link me to. It is greatly appreciated! As you can tell I am somewhat new to importing into the UK as a foreign company.

    Kind regards,
    JE

    Hello JE,

    you should create a new thread on the International Forum with the same copy as you have here. Few people will look at a sticky if they have already looked at it once, so you are reducing your chances of getting the answers

    G
     
    • Like
    Reactions: karimbenkarim
    Upvote 0
    Thanks G!

    I just posted a new thread in the International Business Forum, so hopefully someone could help me..

    Thanks again!
     
    Upvote 0
    just came on this site for some info.i plan on going to china in a few months and want to buy a headstone.ive had a quote from a factory in fujian around £1.500 its says term cif. it will be shipped to belfast.extra local costs will be THC £55 w/m DOC £95/bill isps £65/bill loading fee £40 w/m HC £55/bill ERS £15.TAX NOT INCLUDED.the weight is 1.6 ton .do i have to pay any other costs when it arrives here or do i just add 20% on to the above costs?do i need an EORI number and freight forwarder not even sure where to get one of those or how much they cost.sorry for all the questions but i just dont know where to start any advice would be very welcome many thanks for your time.
     
    Upvote 0
    Rainbow,

    You should create a new thread like I did, more people will respond.

    If you goggle UK freight forwarder, there should be quite a few, I am also very new to importing into the UK, but I think if you found a freight forwarder and give them the details about your shipment, they will then give you a quote on the freight cost and other handling cost...etc.

    I am sorry but I don't really know what cif is, but you should ask your supplier does the cost include local (China) courier cost, otherwise ask them FOB cost, which means the supplier will also be responsible for delivering your goods to the port.

    Yes, you will need EORI number and you need to pay import VAT (20%) and also import duty tax, this depends on the characteristic of your goods.

    This is all I know, hope it helps you. JE
     
    • Like
    Reactions: GraemeL
    Upvote 0
    Hi folks,

    Great to see this thread has been helpful to a lot of people :) We'll be leaving it up as a sticky but closing it to further comments. If you have a question or comment leading on from the advice given, feel free to start a new thread. If you like what people are saying in here, you can show your appreciation through the Thanks button.

    Thanks for reading!
     
    Upvote 0

    Latest Articles