Halal Certification for a Restaurant in UK

[keshk]

Hi,

I am in the process of opening a restaurant in Wales UK. Having trouble finding clear information with regards to obtaining a Halal Certification.

1. What is the cost for obtaining the Halal Certification in UK?

2. What is the process and how do I go about applying for it?

Thanks for advice.

 

[Merchant UK]

look here on what you need to do

http://www.tmfb.net/industry-information/certification-process

and then you can apply online

http://www.tmfb.net/industry-information/apply-online

 

[paulears]

I used to spend thousands every year with whitbread/premiere inn, until I discovered they served halal meat, and didn't make this clear to non-muslims. I've never eaten there again, and only stay in the hotels if I have to. I'm not a veggie, but as I cannot subscribe to the halal process of butchery, if your restaurant was halal friendly, then I wouldn't eat there. I realise that in some areas, this is perhaps a commercial necessity - but not for me.

 

[Merchant UK]

I used to spend thousands every year with whitbread/premiere inn, until I discovered they served halal meat, and didn't make this clear to non-muslims. I've never eaten there again, and only stay in the hotels if I have to. I'm not a veggie, but as I cannot subscribe to the halal process of butchery, if your restaurant was halal friendly, then I wouldn't eat there. I realise that in some areas, this is perhaps a commercial necessity - but not for me.

Same with Mc Donalds, its so they get islamic customers, the only bad thing is they don't tell the rest of us.

Pretty sad really

 

[paulears]

The waitress told me that that it's sometimes awkward for Muslim's to ask and be told no - so they cannot eat there, so by having all meat products ok for them, the assumption is that we won't mind. I do understand that, but I've watched animals be stunned and then butchered, and I can (just) run with this. I've seen the Halal process and I can't do that version.

 

[faradaykeynes]

If animals are stunned and then butchered, that is not Halal process. There are certain protocols to be looked after for meat to be Halal e.g Animal should not be under age, not sick, not injured not strangulated, wind pipe should not be fully cut at once, proper time should be given for blood drain. That is basic protocol for butchering the animal. Halal concept applies not only to meat BUT to other food and earnings as well. If ones earnings are not legitimate then its no point looking for Halal food takeaway, so any factor in equation is zero then end result is zero as well.

 

[squeekwheel]

Is it worth getting a certification for Chinese takeaway? Would there be a market for it?

 

[Squidd]

The waitress told me that that it's sometimes awkward for Muslim's to ask and be told no - so they cannot eat there, so by having all meat products ok for them, the assumption is that we won't mind. I do understand that, but I've watched animals be stunned and then butchered, and I can (just) run with this. I've seen the Halal process and I can't do that version.

Sorry, but that's absolute nonsense. All meat products served by Whitbread are Halal? Does that include the pork sausages and bacon served as part of a Premier Inn breakfast? How about the Gammon Steaks at my local Beefeater? Awful lot of bacon and ham products at Costa too!

It should also be noted that meat stored and prepared in kitchen that prepares non-Halal meat cannot be certified as Halal. Even if an outlet serves meat slaughtered using the Halal method, it is wrong to state it is Halal if it has been prepared and supplied alongside non-Halal product.

While there might be a fair few on the internet who are very vocal in their dislike of Halal meat, the reality is that most consumers really aren't that fussed. I've certainly never seen anyone refuse to pay for a Friday night kebab due to it's Halal origins.

 

[JonathanSEO]

Yeah completely inhumane way to kill an animal that's 2000 years out of date.

The fact restaurants are having to consider serving it is a joke.

It actually puts UK butchers out of business.

 

[Vectis]

I used to spend thousands every year with whitbread/premiere inn, until I discovered they served halal meat, and didn't make this clear to non-muslims. I've never eaten there again, and only stay in the hotels if I have to. I'm not a veggie, but as I cannot subscribe to the halal process of butchery, if your restaurant was halal friendly, then I wouldn't eat there. I realise that in some areas, this is perhaps a commercial necessity - but not for me.

Based on that you can't shop at just about any supermarket for your food either, as most sell halal meat without telling the customer. These include Waitrose, Marks & Spencer, Sainsbury’s, Tesco, Somerfield, the Co-op and probably Asda.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-M-S-dont-tell-meat-ritually-slaughtered.html

 

[TotallySport]

Asda a have Halal meat Section, or the one by the Trafford Center does.

 

[Merchant UK]

The problem is how do you prove it?

What if a company says they just sell Halal meat and nothing else and then we find out afterwards its not. its like those people that say organic veg - double the price nice little earner, only its not organic

I would imagine these large restaurant chains say Halal meat is served but they probably buy it cheap from a wholesaler who hasn't got a clue what sort of meat it is. After all it still tastes the same if its Halal or not.

The only difference is that people might think its pretty cruel to slaughter an animal like that, its not really humane is it?

 

[Christine Hough]

Is horse meat Halal?

 

Is it worth getting a certification for Chinese takeaway? Would there be a market for it?

Only for puppy dog chow mein.

 

Sorry, but that's absolute nonsense. All meat products served by Whitbread are Halal? Does that include the pork sausages and bacon served as part of a Premier Inn breakfast? How about the Gammon Steaks at my local Beefeater? Awful lot of bacon and ham products at Costa too!

It should also be noted that meat stored and prepared in kitchen that prepares non-Halal meat cannot be certified as Halal. Even if an outlet serves meat slaughtered using the Halal method, it is wrong to state it is Halal if it has been prepared and supplied alongside non-Halal product.

While there might be a fair few on the internet who are very vocal in their dislike of Halal meat, the reality is that most consumers really aren't that fussed. I've certainly never seen anyone refuse to pay for a Friday night kebab due to it's Halal origins.

I suspect there would not be much demand for Halal pork sausages and bacon.

Your second point .

I had no idea like most of the population I suspect that they were being served Halal products.:|

I think it should be clearly stated that products were Halal,as I suspect there would be less people using those products,rather like the conversion of most UK residents converted to free range eggs based on the cruelty to chickens in battery kept hens.

 

[Christine Hough]

While there might be a fair few on the internet who are very vocal in their dislike of Halal meat, the reality is that most consumers really aren't that fussed. I've certainly never seen anyone refuse to pay for a Friday night kebab due to it's Halal origins.

I have never refused meat in a restaurant because it was Halal, and that's because I never knew it was Halal.

I have noted what has been said and at a bit of a loss because I agree that they would not then be serving pork products.

However if it was Halal I would want to know.

 

[AlexandraS]

We no longer occasionally indulge in KFC because they have a company policy only to use halal meat. We would never knowingly eat it.

 

[paulears]

I stopped staying at Whitbread owned Hotels for this reason, when I discovered their attached restaurants were selling Halal without making non-Muslims aware. I fully understand that in the Halal community it may well be difficult/awkward to ask, but the concept of animal welfare is important to me. I've actually watched animals being slaughtered humanely to my satisfaction, and although unpleasant, I was able to reconcile what I saw with my liking for meat products. Despite plenty of explanations of the Halal process, I cannot accept it for my meat consumption, as I believe it to be barbaric, and completely unacceptable to me. I have no issue with the religious requirement, and feel no ill will to those who do see it as acceptable, but it is NOT acceptable to me.

I used to stay in Premiere Inns each week - maybe three or four nights in a typical week, and now I don't. They've lost a fair bit of business from me - which is a shame because I actually quite liked the hotels.

 

[Christine Hough]

I cannot help thinking that if a chain only used bread which had been consecrated as communion bread, without telling people of other faiths, that would not be acceptable. Or anything from any religion which was dedicated to their God.

This is in addition to the slaughtering practice which many would also not want to be a part of.

It does though seem a bit of a token effort when the same kitchen is preparing pork products.

I am really surprised and did not know until this thread.
I have a couple of receipts to feedback about service on for Brewers Fayre and will comment there.

 

'It is not mentioned on any of our menus because we don't think there is customer demand for that information. But if people started asking, then we would definitely provide it.'

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[Merchant UK]

‘It is not mentioned on any of our menus because we don’t think there is customer demand for that information. But if people started asking, then we would definitely provide it.’

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Great Find Sirearl,

Imagine the Uproar if we started adding pork into menus and not telling people,I don't think our Muslim members would be too happy. i think companies need to be transparent with the kind of food they are offering.

Giving people an informed choice as to buy or not to buy.

Animal Right activists deplore this kind of treatment of animals I wonder if they have the bottle to take it forward??

 

[Davek0974]

While there might be a fair few on the internet who are very vocal in their dislike of Halal meat, the reality is that most consumers really aren't that fussed. I've certainly never seen anyone refuse to pay for a Friday night kebab due to it's Halal origins.

I think you are seriously wrong there, there is a rapidly growing voice of disagreement over halal and food. Consumers ARE beginning to learn that it is just not acceptable in this day and age to be treating animals in this barbaric way.

If i go into a kebab shop I KNOW it will be Halal, if I travel to certain countries, I KNOW the food will be Halal, if I shop in Sainsburys or Tesco et al, I want to know EXACTLY what food is and is not Halal so i can choose wisely where to spend my hard earnt.

The UK Muslim population is all of 5% and to simply force the other 95% to eat halal certified food is disgusting IMHO.

 

[Davek0974]

I am really surprised and did not know until this thread.

When you get a minute, try reading some of this...
https://www.facebook.com/BOYCOTTxHALAL

There are many links to some very surprising information on there.

 

[Christine Hough]

Thanks, I don't eat out that much, but its very widespread and I guess not always that rigorous! (I wonder if all Halal is as Halal as it appears to be)

I don't mind Subway having Halal branches if they are clearly shown to be so, its not showing it that is at fault. Unless we as a nation object to the animal suffering.

Looks like farmers markets have a new USP!!!

 

[paulears]

What exactly is the point is having slaughterhouses tightly controlled with a vet present to prevent/monitor any animal being slaughtered without being stunned properly, if down the road they can be killed in what can only be described as inhumane circumstances? Do vets have the same kind of oath requirement as doctors? It seems very hypocritical to prosecute people for causing suffering to a horse because they haven't had it re-shod, but to allow something else to die in agony?

What do the halal signs in a subway look like - because I do eat there quite often and this is worrying me. How do subway do salami if they don't do pork?

 

[Davek0974]

What exactly is the point is having slaughterhouses tightly controlled with a vet present to prevent/monitor any animal being slaughtered without being stunned properly, if down the road they can be killed in what can only be described as inhumane circumstances? Do vets have the same kind of oath requirement as doctors? It seems very hypocritical to prosecute people for causing suffering to a horse because they haven't had it re-shod, but to allow something else to die in agony?

What do the halal signs in a subway look like - because I do eat there quite often and this is worrying me. How do subway do salami if they don't do pork?

The RSPCA AND the controlling bodies for animal slaughtering etc do not bother with religious slaughter, its just another facet of the appeasement that is occurring right under our noses.

 

[Root 66 Woodshop]

Teehee!!

Psst... Psst...

I know of at least three... YES THREE!! Butchers/meat suppliers to schools in the Northwest who claim to provide Halal meat.

Yet all they do is bag it in the blue bags.

Ohhh Controversy!

Big deal! Meat's Meat... I couldn't give a monkey's left testicle to be quite honest whether it was Halal or just plain old zapped with a cattle prod... As long as it's in date, fresh and tastes good... I'm going to eat the bugger.



Hmm

Lovely!