Google Page Rank updated 20 Jan 2011

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Not sure if this makes much difference for SEO but page rank (as shown in Google toolbar). Does anyone know if this makes a difference to search positioning on other search engiens such as Yahoo and Bing?
 

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Not sure if this makes much difference for SEO but page rank (as shown in Google toolbar). Does anyone know if this makes a difference to search positioning on other search engiens such as Yahoo and Bing?

Just noticed Mines updated the inner pages too, the PR on your toolbar will make no difference to your ranking or position in serps

TBH

If you did not post that i would not have noticed, its not important nowadays
 
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can anybody tell the latest google algorithms to improve page rank. i am doing forum posting and get the website position very well. but still i can not get any page rank or back link

I am not an SEO expert by any means. So with that disclaimer out of the way, no-one will tell you the Google search algorithm in full. It's as closely guarded a secret as the recipe for Coca Cola. But I heard the other day that there are 200+ separate factors that comprise your site's search engine ranking algorithm. And an internet marketing guru told me last month that there are just three big ones:

1. Traffic
2. Content
3. Activity

So the more traffic, the higher your ranking; the more content the higher the ranking and the more frequent the updates and activity on your site, the higher your organic search rankings.

My own humble site popped up to a PR of 2 from 1 last week, maybe because I did a Yahoo Directory listing in December, who knows.

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And an internet marketing guru told me last month that there are just three big ones:

1. Traffic
2. Content
3. Activity

So the more traffic, the higher your ranking; the more content the higher the ranking and the more frequent the updates and activity on your site, the higher your organic search rankings.

My own humble site popped up to a PR of 2 from 1 last week, maybe because I did a Yahoo Directory listing in December, who knows.

Best Regards

Sorry but you are talking to the wrong Gurus.

Traffic and Activity are noting that can be measureed well enough to allow them to be 2 of the top 3 elements.

There are TWO main elements in the Google algorithm (with 250+ variations therein)

1. Importance, this is a mathematical value and is the ACTUAL Live PageRank of your site, not Toolbar PR, but live pr, something that is updated constantly.

2. Relevance, this is a semantic value, and is dependednt on the mathematical value above.

Ok so that is the official version, but what it means in practice is that the main elements are on page and off page. i.e whay YOU say your site is about, and what OTHERS say your site is about. of course the other element is WHO the others are that say what your site is about.

Inbound links (including variations of PR, semantic relevance, geo location, etc) are by FAR AND AWAY the biggest influence on rankings.

On page, the page title is the main influencer.
 
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It's so childish but it actually made me smile when I just checked mine and it has gone from pr1 to pr3 on the homepage and to pr2 sitewide.. And interestingly, a page I put a 'nofollow' on all the links too some time ago (and just havn't got around to removing) has also increased its PR.. Didn't think that would happen.. Is the toolbar that unreliable?
 
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It's so childish but it actually made me smile when I just checked mine and it has gone from pr1 to pr3 on the homepage and to pr2 sitewide.. And interestingly, a page I put a 'nofollow' on all the links too some time ago (and just havn't got around to removing) has also increased its PR.. Didn't think that would happen.. Is the toolbar that unreliable?

You could have put the nofollow on after the last cutoff date for pagerank. No idea when exactly that was, but I am linking sitewide to our Dutch voucher site from the main one, and have been doing so for a couple of months and its pagerank 0 so I guess its more than 2 months ago.

Or there may be other external sites linking directly to that page, which would account for it having pagerank.
 
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It's so childish but it actually made me smile when I just checked mine and it has gone from pr1 to pr3 on the homepage and to pr2 sitewide.. And interestingly, a page I put a 'nofollow' on all the links too some time ago (and just havn't got around to removing) has also increased its PR.. Didn't think that would happen.. Is the toolbar that unreliable?

Remember PageRank is passed from your own pages to other pages in your site.

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Curious

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Just had a proper look instead of jumping to conclusions.

The link from the sitemap wasn't nofollow, nor was the link to it from another single page. I can't believe that it has any external links as it only has a few links to industry bodies.

Thanks for the replies guys, and at least its reminded me to remove the nofollow!
 
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I thought Johnny was referring to a time when they took the last PR values for the new toolbar. Am I wrong?!

MASSEY - As in you used to be able to 'sculpt' pagerank with nofollow? (Which was my intention those many moons ago when I put it in, what a fine job I did there..).

Now, the link is still seen as a link on page and therefore a division of a pages PR that it is able to pass on? But nothing actually gets passed, it just 'evaporates' for want of a better word.
 
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I thought Johnny was referring to a time when they took the last PR values for the new toolbar. Am I wrong?!

Thats right. The toolbar pagerank is a "snapshot" of the real pagerank at a specific date. So any links you built (or any nofollows you added) after that date, are not going to count.

If you go through lots of dated blog posts, and see which have toolbar pagerank, you could potentially narrow down when that cutoff date was. Personally I can think of a million better things you could do, but the option is there if anyone wanted to do it. Not exactly a lot to gain from it though!
 
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