Club premises licence

[sam12345]

Hi,

For a members only club what is the arrangement for a premises licence?

We have a member of our team who holds a liquor licence, but have been told we also need a premises licence but I was under the impression that a private members club does not need one.

appreciate any help as always.

sam

 

[i234i]

You will never get one in a week or two weeks.

My personal licence exam was complete and my licence wasnt recieved for 3 months roughly after it.

With premises licences it needs to be submitted to the board who at the next meeting make a decision.

 

[sam12345]

the club had previously been trading 2-3 years ago.

what board would this be?

Can we not transfer the premises licence from the previous holder(s)?

thank you

 

[winelabels]

You'll need a club premises certificate. The rules are in Part 4 Licensing Act 2003
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/17/part/4
This relates to the premises and is different from a personal license. Contact the Licensing department of your local council for more information.

 

[oldeagleeye]

The board is your board if you are a limited company.

Are you crazy or something. Taking on a club with no licence. The police close them down all the time and it's can be hard to get again in the same premises.

Go see your local licencing officer at the local nick. If all OK he may be able to fast forward any application by doing the prelim checks and if all Ok even help you in court. Work with them guys not against them

Rob

 

[oldeagleeye]

Sam.

I just came across another post of yours. I thought you said that you something about the club world. Have you been to any in the last few years. Most have plush surrondings while on another thread your looking for cheap 2nd plastic sofas.

This other thread was about employing topless waitresses and lapdancers and where to find them. My oh my are you going to get ripped off and just as important. If your going to laptop and pole dancing you are going to need an entertainment licence too.

You not off to a good start then are you and it seems that you haven't even set the company up. Bad enough but what happens when the ' boys' pay you a visit - and make no mistake they will.

You really do need to get some advice from a club owner mate and in my opinion your going the complete wrong route. There are pubs & clubs galore more wealthier more experiendthn you plying for that trade.

What most towns need is a private members social club where couples & families can go for a safe night out without the yobos kicking off when they invade the place.

I would seriously think again then if I were you

Rob

 

[winelabels]

Don't try to sell alcohol without all the right licenses on place, The penalties are harsh,
Fine of £22000 or, 6 months in jail, or both. Plus all the booze will be confiscated and destroyed.

 

[patientlady]

Hi sam12345
With night clubs you almost need a license for just breathing, whether they be 'members only' or open to the public. 'Members only' has its own restricitions as does 'open to the public'. Each is treated slightly differently. All organisations will need to be contacted as part of the premises license, such as Police, Fire, Trading standards, Health & safety, Environmental Health to name but a few. You will need a DPS license. Entertainment license. PRS certificate, Fire certificate, Security incl CCTV - just for starters. p/l

 

[Wholesale-Suppliers]

License is very essential you have to get it ASAP

 

[sam12345]

Thanks guys.

I'm in the process of transfering the existing premises licence from previous tenant(club was trading 3 years ago), my partner has a PL licence, I just need to contact the fire, police and environmental health. Why would I need to contact trading standards?


I agree about the second hand furniture but when the clubs doing ok this can easily be replaced, I just dont want to put all my eggs in one basket.

It will be a private members club with indoor indian style food and we are entering a niche market in the sense of what we will bring to the city.

We are NOT going to be doing anything dodgy where we get fined or prison etc, this will be ran as a business alongside our other ventures so being compliant in every sense goes without saying.

It is a challenge but we wont know until we explore.

The business plan suggests we can make some good money so why not give it a go?

regards,
sam

 

[patientlady]

Hi sam 12345
I don't think we are saying not to give it a go! I think the general census is just be sure you have crossed all the T's and dotted the I's. All your threads have asked questions regarding this venture as a little surprising, particularly due to the time scale mentioned. The reply's have been offered in genuine concern. I have seen far too many people in the last few years lose a great deal of money in this industry, for lots of reasons.
Be sure, and be lucky

 

[sam12345]

PL thanks, I appreciate all the help.

The timescale was a guide so few weeks here or there will be given.

But yes the due dilligence has been done and like you say its just a case of crossing the t's and dotting the i's.

I've spoken to trading standards and because the club was trading few years ago we just need the existing owners to sign the premises licence over to us, the biggest worry was the costs involved if we started from scratch (which is a lot opposed to transfering)

I know there far too many places going bust and we have negotiated a good lease with clauses if the place doesn't work.

No tie in with breweries and good contacts means will get good trading figures along with hiring the kitchen out or serving food ourselves.

thanks again

 

[oldeagleeye]

Due diligence ???????? and you havent go a clue on licencing laws. You obviously haven't got a business plan either othwise you would have know where to get pole dancers and how much they would cost.

And it's all a question of dotting the i's and crossing the t's. Well that is a new one on me.

I am not knocking your enthusiasm Sam but no bp. Cheap 2nd hand furniture and beingable to buy your booze at a cash & carry don't sound like a Gentlen' Club to be. It sounds like a back street dive.

BTW. Trading standards are wrong. If those premises have been closed for some time you will not just be able to trade on the previous owners licence and in any event most local authorities and the police will want an annual inspection for health & safety and all the other items PL mentioned like CCTV.

I would prepare yourself for a big - big knock back when it comes to a reality check if I were you Sam.

rob

 

[patientlady]

Oldeagleeye
Why am I such a wimp - you say what I think!

 

[sam12345]

Thanks Rob, that's an honest response.

My partner and I have only done an business plan based on costings, interesting to know if the club hasn't been trading for a while we may have to pay for a new premises licence which will be considerably more opposed to a transfer. Is that true?

 

[oldeagleeye]

I don't think there is any significant difference in price. What you should be more concerned about is timelines. If you miss the xmas trade matrey your dead in the water.

btw. If you want me to take a look at you BP and point our the flaws privetly pm me and i'll give you my e-addy

rob

 

[Innpacked]

License & training is necessary, you have to get it as possible. Innpacked Ltd are BII providers of training & courses for the NCPLH personal licence course, the Level 2 National Certificate for Personal Licence Holders. Personal licence training courses are available at Personal Licence London, and Personal licence Bournemouth.

 

[aapkae]

You will never get one in a week or two weeks.

My personal licence exam was complete and my licence wasnt recieved for 3 months roughly after it.

With premises licences it needs to be submitted to the board who at the next meeting make a decision.

 

[martin001]

Just curious if this club every came into existence? Would be interested in an update.

M