Can Mancini manage?

[hmmm]

if it was my 120 million and he got 50mill for torres then madrid are now affering 40 mill for suarez so it wouldnt surprise me if he goes.then all the money from cup runs and the early euro league .in terms of money generated he hasnt done to bad at that either.but if i was chairman i would certainly know 120 does not buy you a top 4 place in the first season.carrol will come good and his price then will not go down much if at all.henderson will definatley get better when playing in his rightful position.his price wont change and may even go up. downing we could sell now and still make only a small lose.the same with adam

 

[hmmm]

i see you cant give me names of players. ba at newcastle was a surprise to everyone. you cant tell me you would have brought him before he went to newcastle.kenny had not a lot of players to choose from.so he brought some young kids including carroll and henderson for the future.if i remeber right liverpool werent the only club after adam. man u mentioned it and some other team.sometimes they work sometimes not.but im sticking with carrol and henderson .they will do well

 

[Esk247]

i see you cant give me names of players. ba at newcastle was a surprise to everyone. you cant tell me you would have brought him before he went to newcastle.kenny had not a lot of players to choose from.so he brought some young kids including carroll and henderson for the future.if i remeber right liverpool werent the only club after adam. man u mentioned it and some other team.sometimes they work sometimes not.but im sticking with carrol and henderson .they will do well

yeah but Alex Ferguson buys for the future too using less money.

Cristiano Ronaldo £12 million became £80 million
Nani £8 million was it? he'll sell for £15 or £20 million
Beckham, youth player, went to Real for £25 million
Hernandez £8 million? easily worth £15 million now

Look at Newcastle with Demba Ba, Cisse and Ben Arfa.

The best thing Dalglish did was sell Torres, that was a good bit of business, after that its a bit poor really.

 

[TotalWebSolutions]

yeah but Alex Ferguson buys for the future too using less money.

Cristiano Ronaldo £12 million became £80 million
Nani £8 million was it? he'll sell for £15 or £20 million
Beckham, youth player, went to Real for £25 million
Hernandez £8 million? easily worth £15 million now

Look at Newcastle with Demba Ba, Cisse and Ben Arfa.

The best thing Dalglish did was sell Torres, that was a good bit of business, after that its a bit poor really.

Rio Ferdinand = £33 million

Veron = £28 million

Rooney = £30 million

Hmmmm...

 

[Esk247]

Rio Ferdinand = £33 million

Veron = £28 million

Rooney = £30 million

Hmmmm...

Out of that list only Veron sticks out as a complete waste of space.

Ferdinand was an england first teamer, Rooney is still regarded as the best striker in the England team (How much was Carrol again?).

Real Madrid were rumoured to have been interested in Rooney for £50 million a few seasons ago.

 

[hmmm]

Rio Ferdinand = £33 million

Veron = £28 million

Rooney = £30 million

Hmmmm...

good point. he must have missed them off.
we can only say henderson was a waste of money when they sell him.they may make good money on him yet.hes 21 how many times do i have to say how young these players are.same with carrol.2 young players as well as jon jo 19/20.theres 3 players for the future.kelly young, agger and skrtel are still young mid 20s plenty of life there.they have not peaked yet,.

 

[Esk247]

good point. he must have missed them off.
we can only say henderson was a waste of money when they sell him.they may make good money on him yet.hes 21 how many times do i have to say how young these players are.same with carrol.2 young players as well as jon jo 19/20.theres 3 players for the future.kelly young, agger and skrtel are still young mid 20s plenty of life there.they have not peaked yet,.

You should have bought Lukaku. 41 goals in less than 100 games and he's not even 20 yet.

 

[hmmm]

henderson was england u21 captain he is now on standby.carrol has been called up .so they are england players just as ferdi was.so whats your point.
the price tag on carrol is only an issue if they lose money on him and if he does not do the biz next season

 

[TotalWebSolutions]

Has Kean not been sacked yet? Such a travesty. Get it sorted Venky's!

 

[hmmm]

You should have bought Lukaku. 41 goals in less than 100 games and he's not even 20 yet.

good point.players like him will struggle to go to city or man u because of the league hes playing in. its a risk .more than what carrol is.but carrol scored goals at newcastle when newcastle were struggling in the prem. 11 goals in 19 games.he can do it and i believe he will.

 

[hmmm]

come the end of june carrol will be worth 50mill

 

[Cornish Steve]

he will get sacked. having a team like wigan and keeping them up when the other teams around you are basically no better than the top championship teams is a lot easier than managing a team that does not have the funds to compete with chelsea city man u spurs and arsenal for a top 4 place.its easier for wigan to finish higher than blackburn than it is for liverpool to finish higher than city.fact

As a reminder, Wigan beat Manchester United and cost them the premiership. They thrashed Newcastle and cost them a place in Europe. They deservedly beat Liverpool and Arsenal and were fiddled out of a win against Chelsea. How many other teams managed that this season - and with few players of international note? Wigan had a better record at the end of the season than any other team, with most of those games played against the best clubs with everything to play for. Playing the way they did against Newcastle, they could have held their own against any club in Europe - and they were great fun to watch.

With so many under-performing players at Anfield, Martinez would turn things around quickly. Further, he's a great tactician, has a positive attitude, is admired by the press (he's sometimes a commentator on soccer channels in the US), and has a real eye for spotting undervalued talent. He also has a track record of bringing in youth players. He could end up being another Alex Ferguson, creating a legacy over decades. Sure, there's an element of risk. If I look at this from a business perspective, however, his appointment would be bold, forward-thinking, and a bit of a no-brainer. I predict that FSG will go for it.

 

[hmmm]

west ham did that a couple of years ago then went down the next season.it happens from time to time .he may well do a good job he may not.i would be happy with him.but what im saying is he has to know that its 4th or sacked.which is harder than staying up

 

[matt seymour]

if it was my 120 million and he got 50mill for torres then madrid are now affering 40 mill for suarez so it wouldnt surprise me if he goes.then all the money from cup runs and the early euro league .in terms of money generated he hasnt done to bad at that either.but if i was chairman i would certainly know 120 does not buy you a top 4 place in the first season.carrol will come good and his price then will not go down much if at all.henderson will definatley get better when playing in his rightful position.his price wont change and may even go up. downing we could sell now and still make only a small lose.the same with adam

Like a lot of Liverpool fans, you are deluded.

Carroll will NEVER become a player worthy of the pricetag Liverpool paid for him. He's average at best. Let's face it, if he was any good at all, someone like Wenger or Ferguson who are masters at spotting potential early would have snapped him up and Liverpool wouldn't have got a look in. The same can be said of Henderson.

Downing has been around for years and if he was any good one of the big boys would have signed him long before now. The signing of Adam was completely and utterly mental!!!

Liverpool had the makings of a decent side before Dalglish came in. With £120 million spent on the squad he should have had them competing for a top four spot. The fact is they probably would have been if he hadn't spent the transfer budget on absolute crap.

How any Liverpool fan can see Dalglish's signings in a positive light is a mystery to me.

 

[matt seymour]

i see you cant give me names of players. ba at newcastle was a surprise to everyone. you cant tell me you would have brought him before he went to newcastle.kenny had not a lot of players to choose from.so he brought some young kids including carroll and henderson for the future.if i remeber right liverpool werent the only club after adam. man u mentioned it and some other team.sometimes they work sometimes not.but im sticking with carrol and henderson .they will do well

I'm not going to sit here listing players Liverpool could have signed. There are dozens playing all over europe that you could have had, but Dalglish decided to sign pure crap instead.

If Carroll and Henderson ever develop into world class players I will eat my hat!

People might have looked at Adam. They probably looked at him and realised he was pants and therefore didn't sign him and left Liverpool to waste their money on him. He's a premiership player, but he sure as hell isn't a top four player.

 

[matt seymour]

good point. he must have missed them off.
we can only say henderson was a waste of money when they sell him.they may make good money on him yet.hes 21 how many times do i have to say how young these players are.same with carrol.2 young players as well as jon jo 19/20.theres 3 players for the future.kelly young, agger and skrtel are still young mid 20s plenty of life there.they have not peaked yet,.

I can't believe you think the likes of Kelly and Skrtel are going to be something special. You've got be kidding me!

Dear oh dear.

 

[matt seymour]

As a reminder, Wigan beat Manchester United and cost them the premiership. They thrashed Newcastle and cost them a place in Europe. They deservedly beat Liverpool and Arsenal and were fiddled out of a win against Chelsea. How many other teams managed that this season - and with few players of international note? Wigan had a better record at the end of the season than any other team, with most of those games played against the best clubs with everything to play for. Playing the way they did against Newcastle, they could have held their own against any club in Europe - and they were great fun to watch.

With so many under-performing players at Anfield, Martinez would turn things around quickly. Further, he's a great tactician, has a positive attitude, is admired by the press (he's sometimes a commentator on soccer channels in the US), and has a real eye for spotting undervalued talent. He also has a track record of bringing in youth players. He could end up being another Alex Ferguson, creating a legacy over decades. Sure, there's an element of risk. If I look at this from a business perspective, however, his appointment would be bold, forward-thinking, and a bit of a no-brainer. I predict that FSG will go for it.

According to my nipper, Liverpool have approached Wigan about Martinez. It's a brave move and a bit of a gamble, but they could do worse.

It would be fascinating to see how he got on at Liverpool.

 

[Esk247]

Charlie Adam is really slow, i thought he was 35 when they signed him too..almost spat my oriental noodles out when i saw his real age

 

[dagr]

First, Dalglish didn't take a top-4 team and make it a 8th place team. He took a lost, bottom-half team and got them to 8th place and bagged a minor cup. That said, I'm not a big fan.

I reckon he would still be manager, at least until Xmas, if he hadn't spent so much and if he'd handled the Suarez episode better. I can fully understand the US owners as they weigh up those last two points.

As for the new manager, I think whoever it is needs a full two seasons before being judged.

 

[hmmm]

I can't believe you think the likes of Kelly and Skrtel are going to be something special. You've got be kidding me!

Dear oh dear.

skrtel is quality.and has been for some time and has got better each season our defence is as good as anyones . kelly is learning.


as above says .who ever comes in needs to be judged over 2 years.kenny should of had another season.it started going down hill when just before rafa got the push.then they give it hodgson and give him 5 minutes.they want the glory in 5minutes with less money than the teams above us.

 

[matt seymour]

First, Dalglish didn't take a top-4 team and make it a 8th place team. He took a lost, bottom-half team and got them to 8th place and bagged a minor cup. That said, I'm not a big fan.

I reckon he would still be manager, at least until Xmas, if he hadn't spent so much and if he'd handled the Suarez episode better. I can fully understand the US owners as they weigh up those last two points.

As for the new manager, I think whoever it is needs a full two seasons before being judged.

You still had the spine of a decent side when Dalgish took over. With a few good signings you could have been in contention for a top four spot, but Dalglish wasted money on rubbish like Carroll, Adam, Henderson, Downing... the list goes on.

I think his signings had a massive impact on the decision to sack him. The owners backed him to the tune of £120 million but he blew it on players who just aren't good enough. The league campaign and dire performances from the big money signings sealed his fate. The cup runs merely papered over the cracks.

Whoever comes in does need to be given a couple of seasons at least because the Liverpool squad right now is a million miles from where it needs to be to seriously compete. The likes of Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs will strengthen their squads in the summer and pull even further away from Liverpool unless the new manager makes some pretty impressive signings who have an instant impact.

I don't know if Martinez will command the respect of the players and be able to draw big names to Liverpool. If I was a Liverpool fan, I'd probably want someone like Gus Hiddink. That guy's record is seriously impressive and he had an instant impact at Chelsea.

 

[hmmm]

martinez has been offered the job.

come on england. a nice win will go down well tonight against norway.carroll to do the biz fingers crossed

 

[matt seymour]

martinez has been offered the job.

come on england. a nice win will go down well tonight against norway.carroll to do the biz fingers crossed

If Martinez takes it, I'll be interested to see how he gets on.

It's definitely a risk and a lot of the Liverpool fans don't want him. Let's just hope they give him a chance and don't turn on him like they did Hodgson.

 

[hmmm]

its a risk for him and for liverpool.but he wants to play football which all liverpool fans want.
he has inherited an up and coming team that has had the foundations put in.all he needs to do is build the wall and make it look pretty

 

[hmmm]

we i said to your all using YOUR logic on football that redknapp had to go . hes been booted.it just shows what a joke football is, the over expectation and the deluded reality of clubs.
football is being ruined by the idiots with money.
a bit like most things in this world

im losing interest in the prem as a team supporter its a joke league.

come on england

 

[loubycee]

Sorry but every time I read it I see "Mankini"

Have you heard about Hairy Reed-nap?

Harry Redknapp of course, can't believe it,. But that's football for you..

 

[Esk247]

Can't believe dirty 'arry has gone. He shouldn't have flirted with the England job for so long, now he looks like a bit of a spatula. He was doing really well at Spurs, bet he'll miss that job.

 

[captaincloser]

Poor old Harry ? No, I dont think so. Multi-millionaire who can't read,write or add up ? Thats all ok.Fine and dandy no less....

...but wnen you open an overseas bank account to receive an alleged bung in the name of your dog don' tbe too surprised if it all backfires even if no jury in the whole of Inger-land would find it in their lil ol' hearts to find to you guilty of an alleged fraud.

You can fool some of the people all the time...all the people some of the time..but Harry dear, you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.

 

[matt seymour]

I think Portsmouth and Southampton fans would call this karma. Let's face it, he wanted the England job and would have dropped Spus like a hot potato had the FA come calling. The man doesn't know the meaning of loyalty and he's his own biggest fan.

Redknapp is a self absorbed, crooked ****! His tax evasion case is but one of his dubious business dealings.

 

[internetspaceships]

Noes! I have to agree.... with.... Matt.....

 

[captaincloser]

Harry and Rosie-the account opener.

 

[matt seymour]

Noes! I have to agree.... with.... Matt.....

You know it makes sense.

 

[harry munker]

I,m missing the premiership matches already... still the fixtures are out now for the new season