Can I sue my former employer?

Naive citizen

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Reading this thread reminds me of what Ken Clarke - QC and former Justice Secretary once said....

That the hardest part of his job was explaining to clients what the law actually was as opposed to what they thought it was, or wished it was, or thought it should be.

You just can't tell some people.
Go on... have a go.
 
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When a judge has to weigh up and decide one way or the other it is often on the strength either way of the 'reasonableness' of the two conflicting positions.
You aren't getting to a judge, it will be thrown out before it gets anywhere near court and wastes anyone's time.

I fully get you are aggrieved (I think everyone here does). But you worked there for <2 years, you literally have zero claim. You leaving a steady job beforehand and being without income now means absolutely nothing unless you can prove they fired you for reasons mentioned in this thread multiple times (race, religion, pregnancy etc).

Chalk this up to an event in your life and focus your energy on a new job / something else. There are enough opinions in this thread to go on and multiple have legal backgrounds.
 
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When a judge has to weigh up and decide one way or the other it is often on the strength either way of the 'reasonableness' of the two conflicting positions.
It's irrelevant. The LAW allows dismissal for no reason within the first two years.

The only grounds for argument, as has already been clearly outlined, are for discrimination on a limited number of "protected characteristics".
 
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If you feel you have a strong case and confident you can represent yourself then submit your case.

The alternative is to engage a solicitor to act on your behalf.

Either way, we all wish you luck and hope you let us know the outcome.
 
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Naive citizen

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You aren't getting to a judge, it will be thrown out before it gets anywhere near court and wastes anyone's time.

I fully get you are aggrieved (I think everyone here does). But you worked there for <2 years, you literally have zero claim. You leaving a steady job beforehand and being without income now means absolutely nothing unless you can prove they fired you for reasons mentioned in this thread multiple times (race, religion, pregnancy etc).

Chalk this up to an event in your life and focus your energy on a new job / something else. There are enough opinions in this thread to go on and multiple have legal backgrounds.
I think you're confusing this with criminal law. A trap already sprung earlier in this thread. Nobody throws anything out of civil courts. The threat to me would be losing and as mentioned earlier the risk of counter claims.
 
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Its a risk whenever you move jobs, if you're not a fit for them you have almost no protection for the first 2 years. For almost any reason, they can give you the boot. They have and you're understandably upset. Doesnt mean they have done anything wrong.
Suggesting taking them to court seems a tad ridiculous and you have had good answers from people who are experts in the field. If you still decide to pursue this, go for it but do let us know how you get on. But if i were you I would put all that time, energy and money into something more constructive.
 
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Occasionally (or actually quite often), a thread appears on the forum where the OP posts a question, gets some very good answers and then proceeds to argue that because the answers do not align with their view they must all be wrong. Time and time again. This is one. By all means continue with your campaign of retribution against the employer but I fear it wont end well. Its absolutely your right to try, but I dont think you'll get any response here that suggests you have any chance of winning this, unless you can come up with a very compelling reason. Hurt feelings dont count.
But one question, why ask the question in your title? You have been told no, there is no case to answer and your arguing there is. So why ask in the first place?
 
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Naive citizen

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Occasionally (or actually quite often), a thread appears on the forum where the OP posts a question, gets some very good answers and then proceeds to argue that because the answers do not align with their view they must all be wrong. Time and time again. This is one. By all means continue with your campaign of retribution against the employer but I fear it wont end well. Its absolutely your right to try, but I dont think you'll get any response here that suggests you have any chance of winning this, unless you can come up with a very compelling reason. Hurt feelings dont count.
But one question, why ask the question in your title? You have been told no, there is no case to answer and your arguing there is. So why ask in the first place?
In my direct experience this forum has been wrong before after previous pile-ons where I am a naughty boy who just has to suck it up and accept... in the end I won. When I'm unsure in any case I'll ask and thrash it out just to see if there's any inspiration. I have picked up a couple of useful bits in the last two pages. I wouldn't get on your high horse too early.
 
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I sat in a case where a consultant of ours went to work for a client

The company had rung up with a job description for a salesperson, they agreed terms of business and invited the consultant to come and discuss the requirement (quite normal in recruitment), when there the director went through the motions asked various questions and at the end offered the recruitment consultant the job.

She took it and we sent a bill which was ignored.

We took legal action and the magistrate turned around at the hearing and said "they appear to have done this before (they showed evidence of this) , they had no intention to create a contract regarding engaging you to actually find them someone for a fee, they are morally reprehensible and I agree as a company you have missed out on both a fee and the future billings of that consultant - but legally there is nothing I can do to compensate you"

That is what led us to amend our terms of business to define candidates as including any consultant doing business with that client in the last 6 months so it did not happen the same way again (remember they had signed our terms before the meeting).

As others have said - what is right or proper or fair is not the same as what is legal
 
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I did and they said yes.

...but they have already filled the role. With it being 2 months they have managed to recruit someone new. They will consider me for other roles and had even suggested one I could do.
What are you asking questions here for? You appear to know more about the law than anyone else here. Either that, or you are asking for advice from experienced lawyers and refusing to accept the advice you have requested.

Either way, if you think you have a legal case against your previous employer (despite everything said here, your opinion appears to remain unchanged), why don’t you press on with it and see what happens?

Since you still appear to be asking for advice, this comment of yours:

The fees are proportionate to the size of the claim if going via the small claims route. For instance, if your claim was for £10,000 the fee would be £455 - I'm no mathematician but it seems pretty obvious to me the fee is less than the compensation in that example. If you look at the chart all fees are all less than the compensation. That shouldn't be a surprise though.“

…demonstrates that your knowledge of the law is not quite what you think it may be. Court fees are fixed. The fees referred to above which (the poster indicated) may dwarf your claim are your opponent’s legal fees.

And yes, if your case is tracked to the Small Claims Track (good luck with that if your case includes “future lost earnings“- how you can justify that element from the above description I cannot imagine) the general rule is that no legal costs are recoverable. But there is an exception built into the no-costs rule which covers unreasonable behaviour, and that deals primarily with conduct during proceedings, and/or vexatious or legally unjustified litigation. The rule is CPR27.14(2)g. If you bring a case which is tracked to the SCT, which a court decides had no merit, even on the SCT, under the above rule, you can still be ordered to pay your opponent’s legal fees.

On the other hand, if you issue the claim you have described, including a claim for future lost earnings, if it survives an application for summary dismissal, it is much more likely to be allocated to the Multi Track. I’ve dealt with cases in all tracks throughout my career, and Multi Track legal fees for a case defended to trial don’t generally start at less than £25,000, and for larger cases, the sky is the limit.

If you genuinely believe you have a case, consult a lawyer. If you have a claim for future lost earnings, and are successful, you’ll recover your legal fees anyway.

Spending your time here trying to convince members is not likely to advance your cause.
 
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I can claim losses / damages
Yes, of course you can, however, I believe your chance of winning to be near zero.

Also, I am sure someone might correct me, but unless you have +2 years of employment a company can get rid of you without reason, so, at least you got a reason.
 
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Yes, of course you can, however, I believe your chance of winning to be near zero.

Also, I am sure someone might correct me, but unless you have +2 years of employment a company can get rid of you without reason, so, at least you got a reason.
Unless they do it because of a protected characteristic or in an illegal manner yes
 
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    I won't know if they're paying any notice until I get the final letter. I'm still waiting for that. Due to the issue of having keep a roof over our heads I am researching the correct way to hold to account the people responsible for my detriment. Remember, I had been employed for 12 years before, 16 years before that. I am not some idiot who got fired because he swore at his boss. I feel like I've been messed around and from other people I've spoken to they generally agree.
    The best way of keeping a roof over your head is to get another job. Focus on that. Anyone can dismiss you for any reason not connected with discrimination within your probationary period of employment. You can't sue them for dismissing you within two years where there is no evidence of discrimination. You would be much better thinking about how you can agree a neutral reference with them.
     
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    What if you could take action or take them to court - and you won? which you wouldnt get it to court in the first place, what would the recompense be for two months work? i suppose unless it was sexual or race etc.. type discrimination its hardly worth the fight, even,
    Being brutally honest looking at how you seem to argue or disregard the advice on here from experienced people then i wouldnt employ you either.
     
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