A great business opportunity

[Bjarnidk]

Hi.

I'm Bjarni Jóhannsson from Iceland.

I am working with a multi-million dollar corporation selling the new era of home telephones.

It's a new type of phone that calls over the internet, instead of landlines, and it has a 7 inch LCD screen to view your other party.

I need you to work with me, people that my contacts have personally met, are earning millions per month.

How it works:
You gain a percentage of the charging fee of every customer you refereed.

However, the smarter way to actually earn some big bucks, is to get 3 people in our company, to get 3 other people and on and on, working with the product.

However the phone calls free to 33 countries as we speak.

In 2 years, if our business goes as planned, will earn 2.3 million Icelandic Króna per month. That's 15.000 pounds, every month.

You can start this as your side-job, or you can work this full-time.

Add me on MSN or email me: bjarnidk(at)hotmail.com for further information and how to get started.

Thank you.

 

[Bjarnidk]

15.000 pounds a month if you start today that is.

If you start in a month, it's 2 years and 1 month to get 15.000 pounds if it goes as planned.

 

[garyk]

It's a new type of phone that calls over the internet, instead of landlines, and it has a 7 inch LCD screen to view your other party.

VOIP and Skype phones that do that aren't exactly new.

 

[GreatSEO]

£15.00 per month seems too much to me for a months work :') (I think its meant to be £15,000.oo now that would be nice)

Dave

 

[Bjarnidk]

VOIP and Skype phones that do that aren't exactly new.

But a homephone that works that way IS.

 

[Bjarnidk]

£15.00 per month seems too much to me for a months work :') (I think its meant to be £15,000.oo now that would be nice)

Dave

15.000 not 15.00.

 

[mubin]

Hi.

I'm Bjarni Jóhannsson from Iceland.

ring Ring ring. You owe my council about £600 million.

What you are trying to essentialy sell is a pyramid scheme is it not?

 

[downsouth]

so you work for a multi-million dollar corporation selling the new era of home telephones.

Yet have a hotmail address

Hmmmm I think i know where this threads a goin

 

[cycloneuk]

You could of picked a better place to pretend to be from rather than a bankrupt country.

 

[Bjarnidk]

so you work for a multi-million dollar corporation selling the new era of home telephones.

Yet have a hotmail address

Hmmmm I think i know where this threads a goin

I'm working inderictly for them.

This is my personal email address, since I'm getting people in on it, I'd like to keep it personal at least.

 

[Bjarnidk]

You could of picked a better place to pretend to be from rather than a bankrupt country.

Why are you even here?

Do you know the difference between a bankrupt country and a person with a sense of business?

Why flame my country, it's not like it's MY fault it's bankrupt?

 

[Bjarnidk]

ring Ring ring. You owe my council about £600 million.

What you are trying to essentialy sell is a pyramid scheme is it not?

Yes and no.

First of all, I'm not selling it.

Also, it's a bit better then a pyramid scheme seeing as you can easily keep track on the people under you, and you help them out when they're stuck.

A pyramid scheme is usually doomed, but I wouldn't be doing this if I didn't believe in it.

 

[cycloneuk]

http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/bjarni_johannsson.htm

 

[Bjarnidk]

And that prooves that I'm wrong and stupid, right? Because I work out?

Or is it because I made some wrong decisions in my past? It's not like I'm asking you to trust your money with me.

What exactly is your problem with me, if I may ask?

 

[cycloneuk]

And that prooves that I'm wrong and stupid, right? Because I work out?

Or is it because I made some wrong decisions in my past? It's not like I'm asking you to trust your money with me.

What exactly is your problem with me, if I may ask?

I just don't like scammers, it is basically a pyramid scheme and no one is going to get rich doing this apart from you.

I didn't make any reference to you being stupid because you workout, just putting a face to the name.

 

[Network Yorkshire]

The problem is with belief in what your offering. Your credibility takes a bit of a knock as a 17 year old former drug abusing body builder working from a hotmail account from a country with lots of financial problems offering something that in your own words is a bit better than a pyramid scheme....

It's not one individual thing it's the big picture!

Please feel free to pm the details of your proposal and i'll happily take a look at it with an open mind....

 

[Bjarnidk]

I just don't like scammers, it is basically a pyramid scheme and no one is going to get rich doing this apart from you.

Maybe if you would consider this as an opportunity instead of a scam, contact me and find out what I'm talking about, you'd stop being so sure of everything, which you don't know anything about.

I've told you the idea, now how it works. And if it's a scam in your eyes, fine, so be it. But don't poison my thread with your ignorance.

 

[Steve2507]

http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/bjarni_johannsson.htm

And that prooves that I'm wrong and stupid, right? Because I work out?

Or is it because I made some wrong decisions in my past? It's not like I'm asking you to trust your money with me.

What exactly is your problem with me, if I may ask?

In all fairness I'm with Bjarnidk on this.

I don't like the sound of his telephone scheme, whether it is straight or dodgy I don't know, I just wouldn't be interested in the first place (no offence), just not my thing.

But you have to congratulate someone who turns their life around and especially at such a young age.

 

[Bjarnidk]

The problem is with belief in what your offering. Your credibility takes a bit of a knock as a 17 year old former drug abusing body builder working from a hotmail account from a country with lots of financial problems offering something that in your own words is a bit better than a pyramid scheme....

It's not one individual thing it's the big picture!

Please feel free to pm the details of your proposal and i'll happily take a look at it with an open mind....

I have sent you some details.

Please bear in mind that I am now 19 and have been clean for a very long time.

 

[Bjarnidk]

In all fairness I'm with Bjarnidk on this.

I don't like the sound of his telephone scheme, whether it is straight or dodgy I don't know, I just wouldn't be interested in the first place (no offence), just not my thing.

But you have to congratulate someone who turns their life around and especially at such a young age.

Thank you.

It might sound a bit dodgy as you say, but I've PM'ed that other guy with some information about it.

I'm hoping he can clear some things up on this thread.

 

[Network Yorkshire]

And that prooves that I'm wrong and stupid, right? Because I work out?

Or is it because I made some wrong decisions in my past? It's not like I'm asking you to trust your money with me.

What exactly is your problem with me, if I may ask?

I wasn't having a go at the lad, I finished my post by asking for further information!

I was replying to the 'what exactly is your problem with me...' line and simply tried to give a possible reason for peoples scepticism, rightly or wrongly...

 

[cycloneuk]

Well my apologies if i offended you, but you have to understand that day after day we get countless threads made on here that are clearly people attempting scams. I will congratulate you on turning your life around, not an easy thing to do i'm sure but you have to agree what you are offering sounds dodgy.

 

[Bjarnidk]

Well my opologies if i offended you, but you have to understand that day after day we get countless threads made on here that are clearly people attempting scams. I will congratulate you on turning your life around, not an easy thing to do i'm sure but you have to agree what you are offering sounds dodgy.

Well, I'm sorry. I'm not used to telemarketing and I wouldn't know how to offer this the right way in the first place.

The only thing I know is that I believe in what I'm investing in and that I am an honest person.

If this was a scam, I'd be getting scammed myself. However, I have seen living proof that this is not the case.

 

[Humphrey]

I would be interested in hearing how the business plan works - I have dumped more MLM 'opportunities' than Iv'e had hot dinners because most of them are 'front end loaded', in other words require you to purchase goods/samples up front, charge an arm and a leg for the advertising literature/paperwork and expect you to purchase goods/services for yourself and five generations of your family.

Feel free to PM me with details.

 

[Network Yorkshire]

You said that you believe what your investing in....

How much does it cost to get involved?

 

[cjd]

Oh please.

There are a million MLM telecom deals and no-one makes any money except those at the top of the pyramid. Presumably Tupperware and Avon have enough 'distributers'.

This is the sort of cr*p that gives the telecom industry a bad name.

 

[Bjarnidk]

You said that you believe what your investing in....

How much does it cost to get involved?

Around 360 pounds.

And to the others, of course you don't make money unless you're on top of the pyramid.

However, this isn't some normal ''pyramid'' where one person is on top.

A lot of people can ''be on the top'' seeing as you start there and build your way down.

And of course it has a bad name. It looks like easy money, but it isn't. I'm not looking for people that are looking for easy money. I'm looking for people that are prepared to put work into this.

My associates travel the world with meetings and such, so you're sure to be in the right type of chain/pyramid.

If you end up in a chain full of lazy people who do nothing except wait for payday, then you'll end up with nothing.

 

[Network Yorkshire]

ok, and what would my £360 actually buy me?

 

[Bjarnidk]

ok, and what would my £360 actually buy me?

Selling rights.

But the total cost is more like 500, because you probably shouldn't attempt to sell something that you don't use yourself

 

[cjd]

My associates travel the world with meetings and such, so you're sure to be in the right type of chain/pyramid.

Of course they do, it's a big planet, you can find mugs all over it. I'm told Nigeria is good.

 

[Bjarnidk]

Of course they do, it's a big planet, you can find mugs all over it. I'm told Nigeria is good.

I didn't quite understand that.

 

[Network Yorkshire]

Ok you get the right to sell it but there are loads of commission only sales jobs out there...what do you actually get?

 

[adventurelife]

Around 360 pounds.

And to the others, of course you don't make money unless you're on top of the pyramid.

However, this isn't some normal ''pyramid'' where one person is on top.

A lot of people can ''be on the top'' seeing as you start there and build your way down.

And of course it has a bad name. It looks like easy money, but it isn't. I'm not looking for people that are looking for easy money. I'm looking for people that are prepared to put work into this.

My associates travel the world with meetings and such, so you're sure to be in the right type of chain/pyramid.

If you end up in a chain full of lazy people who do nothing except wait for payday, then you'll end up with nothing.

Everyone to their own , it is a long journey to find out how to run business and make money that is worth the effort you put in. However, this is MLM please just research it on google before you do anything.

You probably will not, but hey I do not judge. But think about it does investing £360 normally give great returns ? 99.99% eh no

If it does I have not found that route and I make money, so maybe I am a fool. Think about it, no matter what the marketing crap says, use your brain!

 

[Bjarnidk]

Ok you get the right to sell it but there are loads of commission only sales jobs out there...what do you actually get?

A bigger payday.

Refer 9 people and you've got you 500 pounds back.

I mean, I'm not really doing the right thing advertising this on the internet. We usually meet up with people that we know and they bring people that they know and we give them an indroduction. That's more how this business is.

I just didn't know people were so sceptical over the internet, but I should have guessed

 

[Bjarnidk]

Everyone to their own , it is a long journey to find out how to run business and make money that is worth the effort you put in. However, this is MLM please just research it on google before you do anything.

You probably will not, but hey I do not judge. But think about it does investing £360 normally give great returns ? 99.99% eh no

If it does I have not found that route and I make money, so maybe I am a fool. Think about it, no matter what the marketing crap says, use your brain!

Hi.

I know this is MLM, I didn't deny that.

However I don't see this as the every-day-site-looking-for-easy-advertising-of-their-crap-product kind of thing.

If you look at the product (I have it upstairs), you realize that this is something that will sell a lot easier then anything you've probably come across up till now. That's why I believe so in it.

 

[adventurelife]

Hi.

I know this is MLM, I didn't deny that.

However I don't see this as the every-day-site-looking-for-easy-advertising-of-their-crap-product kind of thing.

If you look at the product (I have it upstairs), you realize that this is something that will sell a lot easier then anything you've probably come across up till now. That's why I believe so in it.

Carry on, I have no reason to doubt you , but I can say that you will not get any joy marketing to experienced business people on this site or any other.

You will get lots of joy targeting really inexperienced and desperate people who think they can make money from very little money input.

People who run businesses by hard work, dedication , stress and sacrifice tend to struggle with people who think they can make money out of some hair brained get rich quick MLM scheme!

If you really think this is for you, go on and give it your all.

 

[Emily Caver]

Hi all:
Your new business sound great, the payment is fixed or it depends in the number of phones sold.
Thanks!
Emily Caver
Designer
Tokyo

 

[Bjarnidk]

Carry on, I have no reason to doubt you , but I can say that you will not get any joy marketing to experienced business people on this site or any other.

You will get lots of joy targeting really inexperienced and desperate people who think they can make money from very little money input.

People who run businesses by hard work, dedication , stress and sacrifice tend to struggle with people who think they can make money out of some hair brained get rich quick MLM scheme!

If you really think this is for you, go on and give it your all.

Maybe you're right.

But as I said. I'm not looking for people desperate to make money from little input.

I'm looking for experienced business people, such as yourself. Seeing as my co-workers are mostly experienced business people. I'm not the guy that runs the show if you think that. I'm the kid in the net that everyone thinks won't make it. However, I have sold a bit in only a few days and I'm working my very hardest to make sure that this works. For me, and the others. That's basically the REASON it might work. If I find more people like the people already involved, than this might actually work.

See it like this.

If I can duplicate everyone already involved, 15 people. Say they get 15 more people just like themselves who are able to get 15 people again (Fact is, 15 people get 45 people though, 3 each) then this is bulletproof, seeing as everyone is doing their part.

 

[Bjarnidk]

Hi all:
Your new business sound great, the payment is fixed or it depends in the number of phones sold.
Thanks!
Emily Caver
Designer
Tokyo

Hi Emily.

To answer your question, the payment is both fixed and dependable on sale, seeing as it's fixed depending on your sale.

It's a monthly pay, depending on how much you (or more your net) sells.

 

[Network Yorkshire]

So you pay out £500 and then get 9 other people to do the same (£4500) to get your £500 back and then hope that they are as motivated as you, enough so to do the same?