Facebook username wanted

[DotNetWebs]

..We are NOT guaranteeing a sale we ARE guaranteeing an interest...

..To like a page is in no way to be recommending a product It is simply to like a page...

I totally understand that you are not guaranteeing a sale. No one expects that.

But. If I have a page selling a product and people like that page - the implication is they like that product or that brand.

A 'Like' on that Page is effectively recommending the product/brand that it is selling

Regards

Dotty

 

[bargainmania]

I totally understand that you are not guaranteeing a sale. No one expects that.

But. If I have a page selling a product and people like that page - the implication is they like that product or that brand.

A 'Like' on that Page is effectively recommending the product/brand that it is selling

Regards

Dotty

Ok let me explain a little bit more in depth as to what we are providing.
We can provide targeted and non-targeted fans of your page.

The next bit is where i think the misunderstanding is coming from.

You have a page aimed at weight problems (used this earlier)
We target lets say 250 fans to that page.
The 250 Facebook users Like your page and THEN read what your page is about. If your page is what they are looking for then they will stay.

If your page is NOT what they are looking for (marketed incorrectly) they will more than likely unlike your page.

Hope this clears it up

Alistair

 

[MillieMaesworld]

Hi Dotty

Out of interest did you visit Millie's website, facebook group or read anything about Ataxia ?. I am curious.

Best wishes
Nick

 

[Silky]

Because it's the only way that you are going to convince people that the 'Likes' are genuine.

The promo and testimonials would convince me.

Isn't promotion an essential part of any marketing plan? For a couple of quid here you could convince all the doubters and probably get yourself quite a few sign-ups in the same breath. A definite win-win if what you're saying stacks up Bargainmania.

You are getting a bit of a hard time on this thread but it would be so easy to turn this all around and make this a good piece of PR for your business.

Go on, you know it makes sense....

Silky

 

[bargainmania]

The promo and testimonials would convince me.

Isn't promotion an essential part of any marketing plan? For a couple of quid here you could convince all the doubters and probably get yourself quite a few sign-ups in the same breath. A definite win-win if what you're saying stacks up Bargainmania.

You are getting a bit of a hard time on this thread but it would be so easy to turn this all around and make this a good piece of PR for your business.

Go on, you know it makes sense....

Silky

If you read up you will see a testimonial from a member of this forum silky? post 197
i dont know what more you can expect of us. And he is still posting on this thread

Alistair

 

[MillieMaesworld]

When all you guys have finished discussing this ,would it be possible for Millie to have the last word ?? If you keep going it could get stuck , I would just type the word ATAXIA on the final comment.

Be good for exposure. Thank you.

Hi Dotty
Out of interest did you visit Millie's website, facebook group or read anything about Ataxia ?. I am curious.
Best wishes
Nick

 

[bargainmania]

Fine by me Nick. I will even write Ataxia in every one of my posts

Alistair

 

[UKSBD]

When all you guys have finished discussing this ,would it be possible for Millie to have the last word ?? If you keep going it could get stuck , I would just type the word ATAXIA on the final comment.

Be good for exposure. Thank you.

Your page won't even be displaying for a lot of users as it isn't set up using a secure canvas.

 

[A Party Shop]

We have absolutely no problems in recommending Alistair's services.

He gets the 'likes' as agreed and then it's up to the purchaser to "do something with them".

Blimey guys, risk a fiver if you're actually interested otherwise this thread will reach page 200+ in no time and just be full of nitpicking comments.

 

[DotNetWebs]

...If your page is NOT what they are looking for (marketed incorrectly) they will more than likely unlike your page...

Forgive me for being cynical but that sounds like a good get out clause.

If it wasn't what they were looking for why would they 'Like' the page in the first place.

Regards

Dotty

 

[bargainmania]

Forgive me for being cynical but that sounds like a good get out clause.

If it wasn't what they were looking for why would they 'Like' the page in the first place.

Regards

Dotty

Not a get out clause at all, What if someone has a weight loss page with no info on it?
Or like the original ops page where everyone asking what it does?
do you think fans will keep liking for the sake of it?

Alistair

 

[bargainmania]

We have absolutely no problems in recommending Alistair's services.

He gets the 'likes' as agreed and then it's up to the purchaser to "do something with them".

Blimey guys, risk a fiver if you're actually interested otherwise this thread will reach page 200+ in no time and just be full of nitpicking comments.

Thanks for the recommendation Mathew/Sarah


Alistair

 

[WJP]

But. If I have a page selling a product and people like that page - the implication is they like that product or that brand.

A 'Like' on that Page is effectively recommending the product/brand that it is selling

Although I agree, to play devil's advocate for a second...how is having people like your page who don't necessarily use your product any different to companies that give away branded promotional merchandise, knowing that a lot of people who wear/use it are not customers, but will still bring them exposure?

 

[DotNetWebs]

..do you think fans will keep liking for the sake of it?...

Of course not.

But that reinforces the question several people (including me) keep asking.

Why would they 'Like' the page in the first place???

What's in it for them???

Regards

Dotty

 

[MillieMaesworld]

Im off to mow the lawn , somebody pm me when you are done to get the last post

 

[bargainmania]

Your page won't even be displaying for a lot of users as it isn't set up using a secure canvas.

only for a very small % of people with browser settings to stop pop ups / iframes etc displaying from non https sites. probably 0.000000001% of the internet population

Alistair

 

[Silky]

If you read up you will see a testimonial from a member of this forum silky? post 197
i dont know what more you can expect of us. And he is still posting on this thread

Alistair

Just one...or is that two?

I didn't suggest the promotion as a way to criticise you Alastair but rather to help (before having my own business my career was in Marketing including directorships and as a consultant). I wouldn't be interested in being part of the promotion so I'm not after a freebie, I would however be interested in the service if there's a bit more substance to the proof.

As a test, get 200 users for one person's facebook page on this thread (targeted audience) and I'll happily sign up to your £20 package....and possibly beyond if it's good.

Surely you must be tempted to prove all the cynics wrong? It would have been the first move I made on this thread once the questions started flooding in.

Silky

 

[DotNetWebs]

...how is having people like your page who don't necessarily use your product any different to companies that give away branded promotional merchandise, knowing that a lot of people who wear/use it are not customers, but will still bring them exposure?

Because by saying you [literally] "LIKE" something usually implies a recommendation.

Is somebody gives me a free pen at conference I will happily use it if I need a pen, using it doesn't imply a recommendation for the company that gave it to me (IMO).

Regards

Dotty

 

[bargainmania]

Of course not.

But that reinforces the question several people (including me) keep asking.

Why would they 'Like' the page in the first place???

What's in it for them???

Regards

Dotty

Why do we have to keep going over old questions again and again?
They would like because they could be interested in what the page is doing.
Whats in it for someone to google incontinence pants?

Alistair

 

[DotNetWebs]

Hi Dotty

Out of interest did you visit Millie's website, facebook group or read anything about Ataxia ?. I am curious.

Best wishes
Nick

Yes I have just read it and you have my sympathies.

TBH I have not got a problem with 'charitiy' or 'campaigning' Pages getting 'Likes' this way.

It's just the 'commercial' pages doing at that is a bit deceptive IMO.

Regards

Dotty

 

[UKSBD]

only for a very small % of people with browser settings to stop pop ups / iframes etc displaying from non https sites. probably 0.000000001% of the internet population

Alistair

I would think it is a bit higher than that

how many people here get the secure error message when visiting the page?
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Millie-Maes-World/123511774391148

I get the message on 5 different browsers on default settings

 

[WJP]

Is somebody gives me a free pen at conference I will happily use it if I need a pen, using it doesn't imply a recommendation for the company that gave it to me (IMO).

Perhaps not a pen, but we get all sorts of merchandise which, when used in either a business environment or public, could implicitly promote and support a brand, regardless of whether or not we are customers/clients of them.

 

[bargainmania]

Just one...or is that two?

I didn't suggest the promotion as a way to criticise you Alastair but rather to help (before having my own business my career was in Marketing including directorships and as a consultant). I wouldn't be interested in being part of the promotion so I'm not after a freebie, I would however be interested in the service if there's a bit more substance to the proof.

As a test, get 200 users for one person's facebook page on this thread (targeted audience) and I'll happily sign up to your £20 package....and possibly beyond if it's good.

Surely you must be tempted to prove all the cynics wrong? It would have been the first move I made on this thread once the questions started flooding in.



Silky

Ok silky i have had 2 customers on this thread 1 with hundreds of fans (i know you hate that word nick)
The other with 250 fans that actually got more than that?
If that is not proving cynics then another recommendation wont make a difference

Alistair
Ataxia

 

[JohnLocke1]

The 250 Facebook users Like your page and THEN read what your page is about. If your page is what they are looking for then they will stay.

Thank you Alistair, this pretty much sums up what was said from the word go. The "likes" are not genuine and have no real worth. You have people "liking" anything and everything before they have even read the facebook page.

I can see you service will massage some people's ego who, for whatever reason, are unable to get real facebook friends & likes, but for genuine businesses that want real customers, and not fobb those customers off with false figures and claims, I can't see it has much value.

That is only my humble opinion, and if you are making money from it then good for you sir. And if and when facebook takes off as a selling tool I guess we'll have to be just that bit more careful and make sure we are dealing with real businesses and not ones that have purchased fake customers.

Cheers

John

 

[Silky]

We have absolutely no problems in recommending Alistair's services.

He gets the 'likes' as agreed and then it's up to the purchaser to "do something with them".

Blimey guys, risk a fiver if you're actually interested otherwise this thread will reach page 200+ in no time and just be full of nitpicking comments.

If that's the case, why do you have only 60 Twitter followers and so few Facebook fans (288) despite your page being well established? If Alastair's system works, why not sign up to 1000 followers for the sake of a few quid more?

If Alastair can provide targeted FB fans, I would be very interested in the service he provides and would want to maximise this as much as possible as it could be an effective way of promotion. The limit would surely be the number of fans he could provide rather than the odd fiver in my pocket.

The reason I'm cynical, along with others on here, is that - if it works as described - it does sound too good a deal to be true, certainly for any business that has managed to convert from Facebook.

Silky

 

[DotNetWebs]

Why do we have to keep going over old questions again and again?
They would like because they could be interested in what the page is doing....

You said:

...[they]..Like your page and THEN read what your page is about...

How many NORMAL facebook users use Facebook that way.

Most people "read what your page is about" and THEN 'Like' it.

All I am asking is why are the people in 'your network' different.

Regards

Dotty

 

[WJP]

I can understand some people doing this in the very early stages of their business, to kickstart their page (people don't like to eat in an empty restaurant), but business owners should be prepared to put the work in themselves and will, I think, get better results from doing so.

 

[bargainmania]

Thank you Alistair, this pretty much sums up what was said from the word go. The "likes" are not genuine and have no real worth. You have people "liking" anything and everything before they have even read the facebook page.

I can see you service will massage some people's ego who, for whatever reason, are unable to get real facebook friends, but for genuine businesses that want real customers, and not fobb those customers off with false figures and claims, I can't see it has much value.

That is only my humble opinion, and if you are making money from it then good for you sir. And if and when facebook takes off as a selling tool I guess we'll have to be just that bit more careful and make sure we are dealing with real businesses and not ones that have purchased fake customers.

Cheers

John

Ok John pick Single sentences out of a reply that says alot more than that and disappear for over an hour after i get and give the proof you ask for.
That is aimed at the targeted customers we provide to very genuine businesses offering a very good service

Alistair

 

[DotNetWebs]

... if and when facebook takes off as a selling tool I guess we'll have to be just that bit more careful and make sure we are dealing with real businesses and not ones that have purchased fake customers...

My Bet is Facebook will eventually do something about such schemes in the same way that Google penalise link farms and people buying links etc...

Regards

Dotty

 

[bargainmania]

You said:



How many NORMAL facebook users use Facebook that way.

Most people "read what your page is about" and THEN 'Like' it.

All I am asking is why are the people in 'your network' different.

Regards

Dotty

They are different because that is the way our business is marketed.
And i would think as far as most business pages go most people will like then read and possibly then unlike.

Alistair

 

[WJP]

They are different because that is the way our business is marketed

Am I the only person who has no idea what this means?

 

[DotNetWebs]

Am I the only person who has no idea what this means?

No

Regards

Dotty

 

[JohnLocke1]

Ok John pick Single sentences out of a reply that says alot more than that and disappear for over an hour after i get and give the proof you ask for.
That is aimed at the targeted customers we provide to very genuine businesses offering a very good service

Alistair

Sorry for the delay, I actually had real life customers in my shop that actually wanted to be here and liked what I sell

I picked out the sentence that I thought was relevant to the questions being asked. But to be fair the whole post is copied below. If anyone can show me where I have misunderstood this whole fake "liking" business please do :|

Ok let me explain a little bit more in depth as to what we are providing.
We can provide targeted and non-targeted fans of your page.

The next bit is where i think the misunderstanding is coming from.

You have a page aimed at weight problems (used this earlier)
We target lets say 250 fans to that page.
The 250 Facebook users Like your page and THEN read what your page is about. If your page is what they are looking for then they will stay.

If your page is NOT what they are looking for (marketed incorrectly) they will more than likely unlike your page.

Hope this clears it up

Alistair

 

[bargainmania]

If that's the case, why do you have only 60 Twitter followers and so few Facebook fans (288) despite your page being well established? If Alastair's system works, why not sign up to 1000 followers for the sake of a few quid more?

If Alastair can provide targeted FB fans, I would be very interested in the service he provides and would want to maximise this as much as possible as it could be an effective way of promotion. The limit would surely be the number of fans he could provide rather than the odd fiver in my pocket.

The reason I'm cynical, along with others on here, is that - if it works as described - it does sound too good a deal to be true, certainly for any business that has managed to convert from Facebook.

Silky

Lmao this is turning into being laughable now. They bought 250 likes a few days ago, Maybe as a test purchase, maybe they want to start marketing more on facebook.
To start questioning why they ONLY bought 250 fans really a bit ridiculous.
They bought them because they wanted to, just as you are not buying because you choose not to.

Alistair

 

[MillieMaesworld]

Mowed front lawn, and this thread is still going, off to mow back lawn. I did have a quick squint at traffic sources on my goole analytics. 12 visitors from this thread, any of you 12 (or anyone else for that matter) fancy a free skydive september the 25th , all details are on the website

 

[JohnLocke1]

And i would think as far as most business pages go most people will like then read and possibly then unlike.

Alistair

Nope, your wrong.

 

[bargainmania]

Sorry for the delay, I actually had real life customers in my shop that actually wanted to be here and liked what I sell

I picked out the sentence that I thought was relevant to the questions being asked. But to be fair the whole post is copied below. If anyone can show me where I have misunderstood this whole fake "liking" business please do :|

You have a page aimed at weight problems (used this earlier)
We target lets say 250 fans to that page.
The 250 Facebook users Like your page and THEN read what your page is about. If your page is what they are looking for then they will stay.

If your page is NOT what they are looking for (marketed incorrectly) they will more than likely unlike your page.

I think that is a bit more relevent than making stupid statements about fake fans

Alistair

 

[bargainmania]

Nope, your wrong.

??? prove me wrong john

 

[MillieMaesworld]

Mowed front lawn, and this thread is still going, off to mow back lawn. I did have a quick squint at traffic sources on my goole analytics. 12 visitors from this thread, any of you 12 (or anyone else for that matter) fancy a free skydive september the 25th , all details are on the website

Any one fancy a cup of Tea

 

[WJP]

I use facebook a fair bit, for work and for leisure, and I'd always read the page for something before I 'liked' it. Does that make me unusual? Because to me doing it the other way round makes no sense...