What chains will be gone by the end of 2012

[MOIC]

I know what T&T means, you can "taste" the shop from twenty paces and come out smelling like a tart in a tart factory. Perfume counters are another one, guaranteed to fire up the old hay fever symptoms.

Great to 'smell' a shop 20 yards away............maybe clothing retailers can spray something on their clothes to 'entice' people in.

Smelling like a tart...............only if you apply any of their products onto your skin...............

Perfume counters..........yep they have many ingredients which are 'not healthy'

BTW.........nice to exchange views with you again !

 

[josor]

Great to 'smell' a shop 20 yards away............maybe clothing retailers can spray something on their clothes to 'entice' people in.

Why would i want to spray something onto my clothing that possibly can cause damage to the cloth?

 

[MOIC]

Why would i want to spray something onto my clothing that possibly can cause damage to the cloth?

Use natural fragrances...............like Lush

 

No, that was suggested earlier. Where is the skill and debate in saying Sainsburys, Boots and McDonalds will be here by the end of the year?

Boots and Mcdonalds are already US owned.

not that many UK companies left.

Earl

 

[Banned]

Boots and Mcdonalds are already US owned.

not that many UK companies left.

Earl

But we are about chains, regardless of who owns them. No xenophobia here!

Actually McDonalds are franchises, no doubt many of the individual owners are actually UK citizens.

 

[Laurenpears]

Think maccy ds will always be safe! Teenagers and people on the road keep that place nicely ticking over!

Burger King isnt somewhere i would rate AT ALL - hate the place.
Think Pizza hut are clutching at strings now too!

 

[quikshop]

If you can explain how Tesco's profits being 5% up in the states is going to effect me I'm willing to learn

I've given up trying

The quality of Pizza Hut grub has never been restaurant standard, but we took our tribe into one just before Christmas and even the fat-injected sugar-drowned splat of a pizza that usually tastes really good for all the wrong reasons tasted bland.

This was on top of the cold garlic mushroom starter... the sooner they vanish from existence the better

 

[Laurenpears]

I agree everything tastes so.... factory produced in there now and nothing fresh - apart from the salad bar, which is bland and boring now!
Theyve not changed their business in around 15 years, and with the introduction of say frankie and bennies and nandos etc... they do seem to be struggling!

 

[Banned]

I agree everything tastes so.... factory produced in there now and nothing fresh - apart from the salad bar, which is bland and boring now!
Theyve not changed their business in around 15 years, and with the introduction of say frankie and bennies and nandos etc... they do seem to be struggling!

Ah Frankie and Bennies, perfectly fine, but a good way to blow £100 on an average meal for four. Followed by the pictures for four and that was another £60 gone. Not a cheap family night out.

Totally unrelated to the thread, but just had to get it off my chest :redface:

 

[Laurenpears]

ahh agree again, not great food but can cost a small fortune to eat there!
I was in Medowhall the other week and stumbled upon a new branch called Giraffe? Brilliant food and excellent prices!

 

[lesliedocherty]

don't get the whole nandos thing, average food, average surroundings

 

[Talay]

ahh agree again, not great food but can cost a small fortune to eat there!
I was in Medowhall the other week and stumbled upon a new branch called Giraffe? Brilliant food and excellent prices!

Had a Giraffe near me in London a decade or so ago and it was pants. Never did well and yet the location was A1. Mismatched menu, no structure to their food offerings, all rather random.

 

[liongroup]

don't get the whole nandos thing, average food, average surroundings

Google 'Chipotole'. Similar concept, appears to work as a business and consumers there at least like the concept/food.

 

[Talay]

I saw Nandos before it came to the UK and thought it would be a great hit in North London but they were not interested in a franchised operation at that point.

 

[Laurenpears]

Id Never heard of giraffe before i went to Medowhall, but must say theyve now got their market sorted, meal was great, focused on an american/ish grill theme with fresh breads and different salads etc.... great and will be going back!

 

[MOIC]

Id Never heard of giraffe before i went to Medowhall, but must say theyve now got their market sorted, meal was great, focused on an american/ish grill theme with fresh breads and different salads etc.... great and will be going back!

Giraffe - Started in London a few years back.............Average food (Am I being harsh?), but OK for shopping centers and airports where they are concentrating to target, as usually the eating options in these places are very average, if not poor.

They previously had a successful (small) chain of 'eating' places and sold out to a chain.

Good luck to them.

 

[sparkle_baby123]

The body shop!

 

[sparkle_baby123]

Or Rymans!

 

[Deleted member 59730]

Not on the High street but I don't fancy Yodel's chances. Locally they have dumped millions of pounds worth of business with no logical reason.

 

[sweetpromotions]

The sad thing is that I can not remember the last time I went into town to do some shopping. Maybe one reason why the stores are closing.

My wife has shouted at me the WHSmiths near is us is one the way out, if not looks like it is!

 

[Laurenpears]

Rhymans are a sure thing i think! Stationary and supplies are becoming a thing of the past, B&M stores and £1 shops are where most young children/parents will now look to stock up on supplies for school etc...
Other than that they dont sell anything out of the ordinary for me to go in there, parcel items ill buy from a post office - theyre cheaper! Ink Cartridges etc ill buy from the web

 

[mhall]

Rhymans are a sure thing i think! Stationary and supplies are becoming a thing of the past, B&M stores and £1 shops are where most young children/parents will now look to stock up on supplies for school etc...
Other than that they dont sell anything out of the ordinary for me to go in there, parcel items ill buy from a post office - theyre cheaper! Ink Cartridges etc ill buy from the web

The original "Partners" shops were great - a real exciting mix of stationery. They then got bought out by Waverley Cameron who tried to turn them into John Menzies and the downward spiral was set. Theo came along and turned them all into Rymans but they now just seem like a WH Smiths, with more and more packaged own brand (i.e cheap to produce) stuff and less of the interesting. I remember spending a fortune in Partners on Document Wallets by the case, pens by the box and box files galore. Nowadays I can only by them in shrink wrapped packs of five document wallets, packs of five pens and overpriced box files.

 

[Laurenpears]

The original "Partners" shops were great - a real exciting mix of stationery. They then got bought out by Waverley Cameron who tried to turn them into John Menzies and the downward spiral was set. Theo came along and turned them all into Rymans but they now just seem like a WH Smiths, with more and more packaged own brand (i.e cheap to produce) stuff and less of the interesting. I remember spending a fortune in Partners on Document Wallets by the case, pens by the box and box files galore. Nowadays I can only by them in shrink wrapped packs of five document wallets, packs of five pens and overpriced box files.

I do agree and years ago you would often find me in Partners spending my money!! It was a "Different" shop back then but as you say now is more like a WHS minus the expensive books!
Theyll be gone soon enough! Just a shame they havent found a way to keep upto date with the markets, theyre stuck in the times where as others have moved with it!

 

[Talay]

Was in Ryman in Guildford the other week and actually needed a few pieces of stationary and things. I was also looking for inspiration.

The trouble was the items they did have were relatively expensive and not available in reasonable bulk to make the price more sensible. Then you noticed that you could hardly move as nearly all available floor space had more of the same crap product stacked high on it with very thin aisles to move around.

Pile it high and sell it cheap I thought but not pile it high and price it expensively.

 

[Banned]

Ryman's, appear to be doing ok http://companycheck.co.uk/company/03007166 be interesting to see what the next set of accounts show though.

 

Ryman's, appear to be doing ok http://companycheck.co.uk/company/03007166 be interesting to see what the next set of accounts show though.

But they owe twice as much as they have.?

Earl

 

[mhall]

But they owe twice as much as they have.?

Earl

:| Am I reading it wrong then?. It looks ok to me. I wouldn't worry about owing £25m when I have £13m cash in my pocket and total assets of £41m. As long as I can sell what I have I would be fine.

 

[Banned]

But they owe twice as much as they have.?

Earl

Put your glasses on, or use the ctr + function to make the writing bigger and have another look Don't forget the assets.

 

Put your glasses on, or use the ctr + function to make the writing bigger and have another look Don't forget the assets.

Assets are not cash ,very often a figment of someones imagination.

At this moment in time they can be forced into liquidation.

Earl

 

[Banned]

Assets are not cash ,very often a figment of someones imagination.

At this moment in time they can be forced into liquidation.

Earl

But it doesn't work that way does it. They have a net worth of £29,000,000 I think it was. There is no case for liquidation, it simply won't happen. I think you'll find most business work this way.

 

[mhall]

With respect Earl. you don't half talk out of your rear end at times. Tesco "only" have £625 million cash but have £10,681 million liabilities. As much as I would like it, I am pretty sure they are not going anytime soon. Luckily for them, £17,801 million in assets that you seem to think could be a figment of their imagination may mean they just scrape through. I wish I had that sort of imagination !

 

[Jeff FV]

With respect Earl. you don't half talk out of your rear end at times.

Do you mean he's talking out of his assets?

 

With respect Earl. you don't half talk out of your rear end at times. Tesco "only" have £625 million cash but have £10,681 million liabilities. As much as I would like it, I am pretty sure they are not going anytime soon. Luckily for them, £17,801 million in assets that you seem to think could be a figment of their imagination may mean they just scrape through. I wish I had that sort of imagination !

so if they had to pay there debts tomorrow they would be fuewked.?

yer but yer but.

Earl

 

[mhall]

so if they had to pay there debts tomorrow they would be fuewked.?

yer but yer but.

Earl

What colour is the sky in your world Earl ?

 

[Esk247]

What colour is the sky in your world Earl ?

Don't know about the colour but it has pigs in it.

 

[Esk247]

so if they had to pay there debts tomorrow they would be fuewked.?

yer but yer but.

Earl

You know it doesn't work like that. The bigger the debts the longer you can keep it running because they don't dare call the debts in just in case you declare yourself belly up and unable to repay the loans.

 

You know it doesn't work like that. The bigger the debts the longer you can keep it running because they don't dare call the debts in just in case you declare yourself belly up and unable to repay the loans.

My scenario is one where they have to pay there debts immediately.

In which case I stand by them being deep in the fluffy stuff.

It would appear they are only trading courtsey of creditors.

Now tell me again what is it thats got nearly the whole world in the muck?

Earl

 

[Esk247]

Now tell me again what is it thats got nearly the whole world in the muck?

Earl

Doom and Gloom Newspaper Articles?
Robert Peston?
Sub Prime Mortgages?
Labour?
Bush? (comedy)
People buying holidays on the credit card?

 

Doom and Gloom Newspaper Articles?
Robert Peston?
Sub Prime Mortgages?
Labour?
Bush? (comedy)
People buying holidays on the credit card?

So I suppose the Spanish have an overactive imagination.:|

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17866382

Earl

 

[Esk247]

So I suppose the Spanish have an overactive imagination.:|

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17866382

Earl

Millions unemployed yes, but yet the number of millionaires is increasing. So to is spending in high end, expensive and luxury areas. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.

Time to become Communist (or libertarian depending how you see it) and look after my two chickens in my 5 metre by 5 metre enclosure?