What chains will be gone by the end of 2012

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I think Tesco will struggle but they will still be around for a few years.
Clintons will not be around next year especially with online competition like funky pigeon and moon pig but i think they will just move online. I think the same for WHSmith who will move into just being an online retailer.
Debenhams i think will take a fall along with some jewellery shops.

A lot of companies need to condense and specialise and narrow their product ranges to cut costs down.
 
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Could see the mothercare one coming, with places such as kiddicare.com now opening mega stores at discounted prices their competition is too steep - i for one would not pay £20 for 3 vests for a baby when tescos and asda sell 7 for a fiver?

John Lewis and M&S have also really upped their game and are competitive at the lower price points these days. I find Mothercare outdated and overpriced.
 
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John Lewis and M&S have also really upped their game and are competitive at the lower price points these days. I find Mothercare outdated and overpriced.
Mothercare appears to have been a victim of supermarkets and the Internet but importantly, time. I guess, like many other specialty stores, we've (consumers) have consolidated our spending to a smaller number of stores - mainly supermarkets - due to time constraints.
 
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Mothercare appears to have been a victim of supermarkets and the Internet but importantly, time. I guess, like many other specialty stores, we've (consumers) have consolidated our spending to a smaller number of stores - mainly supermarkets - due to time constraints.

True but that's probably because Mothercare don't offer anything that makes the consumer travel away from the supermarket.

Anything you buy at Mothercare you can probably get at several other general shops/supermarkets, so why would a consumer bother going there?

It's the same thing that has happened with HMV, everything they have in their shop you don't just get on their website you also get it on any other music/dvd website. Play.com too. So why bother with HMV? They don't offer anything in store that you can't get online or from another music shop or supermarket.
 
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True but that's probably because Mothercare don't offer anything that makes the consumer travel away from the supermarket.

Anything you buy at Mothercare you can probably get at several other general shops/supermarkets, so why would a consumer bother going there?

It's the same thing that has happened with HMV, everything they have in their shop you don't just get on their website you also get it on any other music/dvd website. Play.com too. So why bother with HMV? They don't offer anything in store that you can't get online or from another music shop or supermarket.

Totally agree with this, mothercare has never offered me anything "Better" than what my local supermarket/online store can! Expensive baby shops are a thing of the past, times have changed and so have wallets. Most companies now cater for the mid class family range and price around that. always makes me smile when i think back to buying our pram for our now 3 year old son, we brought it from a shop in town for £700 - Mother care was 950 for the same thing! - i mean... really guys?
Also theyve not evolved any as a store, not added anything to make them stand out, just sold and continued selling things without a USP for their brand! No great online presence, no advertising, no nothing really!
 
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I'm not too sure on WHSmith.. as its been raised here, they are pretty stable and will be able to tough it out..

I am thinking shops such as Robert Dyas, The Body Shop, The Perfume Shop etc .. these are shops which I feel haven't evolved so well with the changes seen in the last 5-10 years in the ways people shop and spend money..

With the likes of Homebase, I think this will just continue to make them strong following the demise of Focus
 
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The Body Shop went downhill when it was sold. They used to sell unique, quality products but it's all about getting those tills ringing now, the last time the missus went in it was just sales people who couldn't be bothered. Considering the prices :eek: I'd of expected better service.
 
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The Body Shop went downhill when it was sold. They used to sell unique, quality products but it's all about getting those tills ringing now, the last time the missus went in it was just sales people who couldn't be bothered. Considering the prices :eek: I'd of expected better service.

Agree, think I mentioned them in the first post. Nothing new, very expensive, staff don't give a monkeys. Generally the whole concept has had it's day.
 
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Agree, think I mentioned them in the first post. Nothing new, very expensive, staff don't give a monkeys. Generally the whole concept has had it's day.

Now you come to mention this, I remember the staff not being very helpful either when I went to the one in Portsmouth a month ago.. looking for a mothers day present..

By contrast, I find Crabtree Evelyn very helpful, with staff will to help me at all costs and not in an blatantly sales-like way.. I think these retailers will have a tough time..

One other retailer which could have trouble ... Ann Summers. After all, they did have a programme dedicated to retailers in need of "change" and it looks like the jury is still out.
 
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Now you come to mention this, I remember the staff not being very helpful either when I went to the one in Portsmouth a month ago.. looking for a mothers day present..

By contrast, I find Crabtree Evelyn very helpful, with staff will to help me at all costs and not in an blatantly sales-like way.. I think these retailers will have a tough time..

One other retailer which could have trouble ... Ann Summers. After all, they did have a programme dedicated to retailers in need of "change" and it looks like the jury is still out.


I think ann summers has done well to carve out such a "Delicate" part of the market, and they do it well, their everyday underwear is very overpriced, which i think is where they fall short - but the obvs things that they sell seem to do really well, theyve turned what was once perceived as a "Seedy" market, into an open and comfortable one :) they always look busy enough when i walk past
 
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I think ann summers has done well to carve out such a "Delicate" part of the market, and they do it well, their everyday underwear is very overpriced, which i think is where they fall short - but the obvs things that they sell seem to do really well, theyve turned what was once perceived as a "Seedy" market, into an open and comfortable one :) they always look busy enough when i walk past

You mean they are always full of male customers?;)

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    I think ann summers has done well to carve out such a "Delicate" part of the market, and they do it well, their everyday underwear is very overpriced, which i think is where they fall short - but the obvs things that they sell seem to do really well, theyve turned what was once perceived as a "Seedy" market, into an open and comfortable one :) they always look busy enough when i walk past


    They are of course helped by the fact that it is much harder to sell adult products on the internet. Amazon frown on them and merchant providers either say no or put you in a high risk category and charge accordingly.
     
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    They are of course helped by the fact that it is much harder to sell adult products on the internet. Amazon frown on them and merchant providers either say no or put you in a high risk category and charge accordingly.

    I didnt know this but yes must deffinitley help them in the market!
    I think as well theyve made it so that youre to feel comfortable when you are in a shop like this, the staff are always really nice and mature about things and even have a chat with you in a non-intrusive manner.
    I for one enjoy shopping here, its nice and relaxed
     
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    Agree, think I mentioned them in the first post. Nothing new, very expensive, staff don't give a monkeys. Generally the whole concept has had it's day.

    I think thats what enabled Lush to come and take all their customers as they offer more products specialised to their consumers needs. Plus their customer service is a lot better than body shop.
     
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    OK, yes and no. Both stores have changed in a major way over the last five years. Body Shop used to sell things that helped with skin problems ect. just like Lush but i agree with another user that now they (Body Shop) have turned into your everyday Boots with nothing special.

    That's my point.

    In the current model, it's Chalk and Cheese.

    Even when Body Shop was started, it was not the same model as Lush is.............Body Shop may have spouted their green credentials, and in their time they were 'new', but not in the same way that Lush presents itself.

    Lush innovate.
     
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    Lush should be banned from everywhere IMHO, I can tell when I'm one hundred metres away from I've because I can bloody taste it. My girlfriend dragged me in one once, if the prices don't kill you off the smell will :D

    Interesting thought.................a successful retail concept...............and you want to ban them !:|

    Envy comes to mind..............I hope it's not jealousy.:)
     
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    Interesting thought.................a successful retail concept...............and you want to ban them !:|

    Envy comes to mind..............I hope it's not jealousy.:)

    I know what T&T means, you can "taste" the shop from twenty paces and come out smelling like a tart in a tart factory. Perfume counters are another one, guaranteed to fire up the old hay fever symptoms.
     
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    I'm in the UK so don't give a stuff about their overseas business.

    Sound business analysis, you must work for Hargreaves Lansdown :eek::|

    Tesco got complacent a few years ago, taking the customer for granted and letting their stores become bedraggled. They've reacted late in the day but their plans to invest £1 billion in UK stores at the expense of the expected increase in shareholder dividend payments is the right move.

    Their US Fresh 'n Easy stores are due to break even in 2014/15 ahead of plan which is a significant step forward, so all n'all they'll maintain their UK dominance and continue international expansion.

    The only fly in the ointment is their terrible terrible website :eek:
     
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    Sound business analysis, you must work for Hargreaves Lansdown :eek::|

    Seriously though me with my little shop in a little town, how much do overseas business effect me? Sod all. The 1% UK down is a reflection maybe on bad management, or maybe just the UK trend at the moment and the seemingly unstoppable giant has indeed stopped.

    Be interesting to see if they can spend their way of this one, personally I doubt it.
     
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    Seriously though me with my little shop in a little town, how much do overseas business effect me?

    But that's the point, big international retailers are affecting all of us independents whether on the high street or online.

    They've bullied the high street to submission and the game is afoot online; from what I read about the latest EU distance selling regulations they give more power to consumers well beyond what any sane person would call reasonable, rules that the large multi-national retailers are best suited to absorb without consequence.
     
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    But that's the point, big international retailers are affecting all of us independents whether on the high street or online.

    They've bullied the high street to submission and the game is afoot online; from what I read about the latest EU distance selling regulations they give more power to consumers well beyond what any sane person would call reasonable, rules that the large multi-national retailers are best suited to absorb without consequence.

    But we are on about UK sales for Tesco, what they sell in the US is of no importance to me.

    Distance selling regs are also of no importance to a High Street shop - beyond the fact they give us a few advantages over internet retailers.

    If you can explain how Tesco's profits being 5% up in the states is going to effect me I'm willing to learn :)
     
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    hmm are you confident or want to ring a friend? :D Currently some readers are only realising some chains were still actually trading when they hear they have gone into admin. Jaeger is in the news today.
    Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons and Asda, anything else is probably luck, clever accounting and optimism.
     
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    Well kiddycare is safe as it was bought out by Morrisons and is taking over most, if not all of the old best buy units. Mothercare is currently moving out of the highstreet and that could send in on a downword spiral. Perhaps if they had smaller stores like mommas and pappas and stream lined its business it make work out, but have a feeling it could be in trouble.

    Little chef I cant see surviving too much longer though, they went bust once and it will again.
     
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