Website design

[1982_adam]

Hi Guys

I am looking to have a website built for a business that advertises on my food guide. The problem is that the company I normally use for this build are not answering my emails/calls Etc.

The website that my client likes and would need building is www.bilash-tandoori dot co uk

I have had a quote for this site to be built ( tailored to fit my clients branding, menu etc) of £175 and a 1-2 week build time.

I just thought I would ask you guys on the forum if you knew anyone that could build me the website any quicker and maybe less £ ??

 

[Vision2]

Hi Guys

I am looking to have a website built for a business that advertises on my food guide. The problem is that the company I normally use for this build are not answering my emails/calls Etc.

The website that my client likes and would need building is www.bilash-tandoori dot co uk

I have had a quote for this site to be built ( tailored to fit my clients branding, menu etc) of £175 and a 1-2 week build time.

I just thought I would ask you guys on the forum if you knew anyone that could build me the website any quicker and maybe less £ ??

Less than £175?

Even 175 is cheap as hell.

175 will buy you aprox 100 quids worth of time, that means that this person cannot spend any more than 2 - 4 hours maximum on the entire site / emails / talkign to you on the phone etc. Else, it makes it not financially viable.

This kind of money is a simple case of converyor belt websites, they get thrown out as fast as possible with no regard for any detail.

 

[1982_adam]

which was something I was concerned about but with the examples that they have shown me, they seem to have the ability.

 

[akirk]

I assume that they have a template / a simple CMS behind / and change the colours / logo / name - even then, that is very cheap.

you might find someone with no overheads, and who is prepared to do this for that kind of price - but I reckon you are talking much more money for that...

regards

Alasdair

 

[fusingcreativity]

1-2 week build time for £175??! ber-limey! That's a lot of time to live on beans!

 

[WebWizard]

I wouldnt start less then with $500(USD).

& thats to start, always have budget to expand as well.

 

[matt.chatterley]

1-2 week build time for £175??! ber-limey! That's a lot of time to live on beans!

Assuming its "more than" just a "content site", we might not even get the spec written and agreed for that much if it were vaguely complex!

You certainly wouldn't get anything more than a sketch from most graphic designers!

 

[seiretto]

£175 might be OK for a website with a few pages with no regard to SEO, but as many of the designers have already pointed out that is too cheap to create a good site which will bring you traffic.

 

[Big Pete]

Hi Guys

I am looking to have a website built for a business that advertises on my food guide. The problem is that the company I normally use for this build are not answering my emails/calls Etc.

The website that my client likes and would need building is www.bilash-tandoori dot co uk

I have had a quote for this site to be built ( tailored to fit my clients branding, menu etc) of £175 and a 1-2 week build time.

I just thought I would ask you guys on the forum if you knew anyone that could build me the website any quicker and maybe less £ ??

175 dream on

 

[Kernowman]

Hi Guys

The problem is that the company I normally use for this build are not answering my emails/calls Etc.

£175 and a 1-2 week build time.

I just thought I would ask you guys on the forum if you knew anyone that could build me the website any quicker and maybe less £ ??

They are not answering emails and calls because they have probably gone bust from doing business with people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing

 

[bdw]

tailored to fit my clients branding, menu etc

For a bespoke site like the above with SEO I would say that you are talking about £500 upwards.

.

 

[fusingcreativity]

Assuming its "more than" just a "content site", we might not even get the spec written and agreed for that much if it were vaguely complex!

You certainly wouldn't get anything more than a sketch from most graphic designers!

There was sarcasm in my tone (i meant beans of the heinz variety)!

 

[ecenica]

Wow £175, that is low!

How do they even afford to buy software licenses and hardware?

We would have to sell 54 of those a year just to cover the Macs our designers demand each year. Not to mention coffee.

If you really only want to spend £175 you could try posting your job on one of the freelance websites.

 

[Sarah Harvey]

They might have closed down, but in the end you can easily outsource the task to someone for the same amount or less if you know where to look.

In actual fact I have seen a design similar to that site before. It was eerily familiar when I looked at it. Perhaps because I spend a lot of time in different forums, websites and have seen over a thousand different templates before...it might be similar to something I have seen before.

It depends on what your clients need and the requirements involved, but it shouldn't be hard to get a similar site for £150.00

I have nothing but time on my hands as of late and would give it a go since I create and sell websites as a hobby when I have the time, but as I say it depends on what your clients need.

Yes, unfortunately designers are very expensive and to be honest it can cost someone £350 just for a good website header, let alone the whole site design. It cost me that much last year!

Designing something from scratch is what costs time and money.

People can afford to charge cheaper fees if they work off existing designs. Hence why they charged £175 and a 2-week time frame.

 

[Sunny Sahota]

WOW! I'm a web designer and for £175 you would get a one page site, designed in photoshop and slide/coded in HTML/CSS.

 

[campervanman]

Hi,

I set up my website by getting the free domain name from gbbo.co.uk and then building it using Google sites, which has templates and website setup software. You don't have to code and html etc.

Have a look at camper-van-conversion.co.uk.

Sorry I can't add website links yet.

 

[fusingcreativity]

Hi,

I set up my website by getting the free domain name from gbbo.co.uk and then building it using Google sites, which has templates and website setup software. You don't have to code and html etc.

Have a look at camper-van-conversion.co.uk.

Sorry I can't add website links yet.

The main issue with these sites is that they offer very little flexibility, design and in my opinion look really unprofessional - I hate the Google ads on a professional business website, leave them for the magazine/gossip/news blogs and sites etc.

For a Google site, I'm surprised it doesn't have Keywords!

 

[Sunny Sahota]

Hi,

I set up my website by getting the free domain name from gbbo.co.uk and then building it using Google sites, which has templates and website setup software. You don't have to code and html etc.

Have a look at camper-van-conversion.co.uk.

Sorry I can't add website links yet.

Google "free css layouts" and use that as a basic structure. Thats how i started learning web design when i started out, then just get used to coding your own site structure and css code. plus they look better than the google freebies

 

[Mike W]

I think, OP, you'll have got the general gist by now, so I'm sure you don't need another

That said, if you're only interested in taking your customer's money, then you won't find much cheaper than what you've had quoted.

If you're interested in your customer though, in both his future and his future views on you, then maybe you ought to be either looking at somewhere a bit better to get it done (at that price it won't be any good - it can't be) or suggesting he needs to be spending more.

Regards

Mike

 

[bdw]

Have a look at camper-van-conversion.co.uk.

Precisely.

 

[Vision2]

Hi,

I set up my website by getting the free domain name from gbbo.co.uk and then building it using Google sites, which has templates and website setup software. You don't have to code and html etc.

Have a look at camper-van-conversion.co.uk.

Sorry I can't add website links yet.

pretty much proves the point people are making here

these sites are worthless, i wouldnt do any business with people who have such a shoddy site.

 

[Sarah Harvey]

I think a few people have to learn a thing or two about internet marketing. They guy was merely getting people to visit his website to see whether anyone would actually buy his information. Not really imparting his advice and it will be evident when the poster does not exceed 25 posts on this forum, unless they can get a lot of visitors from this forum to their site. It was also evident when his first post was to this thread.

Such a normal tactic and people fall for it all the time.

Unfortunately the poster of camper-van-whatever will quickly learn that some forums will just ban his account for posting his domain.

 

[fusingcreativity]

I think a few people have to learn a thing or two about internet marketing. They guy was merely getting people to visit his website to see whether anyone would actually buy his information. Not really imparting his advice and it will be evident when the poster does not exceed 25 posts on this forum, unless they can get a lot of visitors from this forum to their site. It was also evident when his first post was to this thread.

Such a normal tactic and people fall for it all the time.

Unfortunately the poster of camper-van-whatever will quickly learn that some forums will just ban his account for posting his domain.

Well I think to be honest, the little traffic that this site will send will have very little, if any effect. Plus, not being able to post the actual link means that it won't have any effect on link referrals!

I prefer to see the best in people and try to help, yes maybe you may end up being duped by a few, but I accept that - otherwise I see very little point in being involved in this forum if you assume that everyone - if only 'the beginners' are here to dupe everyone.

Granted there are some idiots on here trying to get some free traffic, but they usually just end up with negative comments about their business/website or whatever - which ends up appearing in the Google search results!

I understand your point though but It's a very poor online marketing tactic to be honest, so lets humour a few now and then! LOL

 

[dagaul101]

First thing that struck was the name was a little too long camper and then a mention of gbbo and Google sites, and if I was a potential client I wouldn't visit the site with a barge pole, as Google sites is as basic as they come

 

[1onica]

Hi Guys

I am looking to have a website built for a business that advertises on my food guide. The problem is that the company I normally use for this build are not answering my emails/calls Etc.

The website that my client likes and would need building is www.bilash-tandoori dot co uk

I have had a quote for this site to be built ( tailored to fit my clients branding, menu etc) of £175 and a 1-2 week build time.

I just thought I would ask you guys on the forum if you knew anyone that could build me the website any quicker and maybe less £ ??

I can get you that with another £50 hosting if you are interested check my portfolio out at http://www.1onica.com

 

[anditucker]

Hi Guys

I am looking to have a website built for a business that advertises on my food guide. The problem is that the company I normally use for this build are not answering my emails/calls Etc.

The website that my client likes and would need building is www bilash-tandoori dot co uk

I have had a quote for this site to be built ( tailored to fit my clients branding, menu etc) of £175 and a 1-2 week build time.

I just thought I would ask you guys on the forum if you knew anyone that could build me the website any quicker and maybe less £ ??

See sometime developer gives expected price on the basis of very brief requirement posted by client. until and unless if developer don't have full requirement about your project then they can't give you exact price for your project.

As far as web development field concern, there are cutthroat compitition in this field. You can find many developer who can develop your website less then £100 also. IT is totally up to you to find good developers by checking his work, client testimonials, his location etc.

 

[rattytattydesigns]

As a new business, who has very little start up money. I too have a GBBO website.
Surely any online presence is better than none. It may not have bells and whistles, but its not bad.

 

[rattytattydesigns]

However I did use the bt website development offer for £175.00 which I highly recomend no body else should use. Its caused me loads of problems including loosing my editing tools.
I asked them to give me a cream fabric background to my site and flourishes on my webpages
1 st they removed my sidebar and put it into the page. When I asked them to put it back as it was they took the page from behind the sidebar. My header overhung the sidebar. page was lopsided. When I asked them to put it right they then resized the header to fit over the lopsided page. Then when i asked again they put the navigation bar across the top.

I only wanted a standard page layout with sidebar. And then I aksed them to put back a link and in doing this they managed to loose one of my editing tools.
Then they said that as they have altered my page three times if I want them to do anything else I need to pay them more money

It is now in the hands of the highest level of complaints team at bt I will keep you informed.

But as a basic site GBBO is ok for anyone not selling IT related services

 

[Shirish]

They are not answering emails and calls because they have probably gone bust from doing business with people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Well said!

 

[oliverbanks]

What kind of price would a website with 3-4 pages - all very simple apart from the homepage. Nothing flashy, just a plain black background. Image in the middle, room for adverts on the side and the other pages just being text about T&Cs, Contact us etc...

 

[Vision2]

What kind of price would a website with 3-4 pages - all very simple apart from the homepage. Nothing flashy, just a plain black background. Image in the middle, room for adverts on the side and the other pages just being text about T&Cs, Contact us etc...

that's a how long is a piece of string type of question, it depends who you want to have it done by. As well as other requirements.

most if not all respectable webdev's generally wouldnt touch anything for less than a grand and then you have those who will do things for £100.

So boils down to what you are willing to spend, and finding the right person that you feel comfortable with doing it.

 

[bdw]

most if not all respectable webdev's generally wouldnt touch anything for less than a grand and then you have those who will do things for £100.

Well I guess I am not respectable.

Actually it's quite insulting for you to suggest that people who can do a four page website for less than a grand are anything other than respectable.

A typical four page website should take no more than a day to develop. We do not take any new website work on at less than £300 but this would cover some websites in this category. Provided there are no interactive pages I cannot ever see us having to charge any more than about £450 for this.

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[ecenica]

Catch our web design guys at the right time of month, generally when they've run out of coffee and need paying - and you'll be surprised what they'll do for a few hundred quid.

As to respectable. The verdicts open on that one. LOL.

^RM.

P.S: Rough guide we use for our Custom WordPress sites is £100 per page. This includes all WP features, custom theme, contact form, Cross-browser testing, 1 week delivery. Inhouse UK dev/designers and even free wordpress hosting on our Linux cluster.