Vaccine anyone?

Well I hope no one here takes the vaccine and is 65 and over.

Also while you're there, you might aswell read the best rated comments.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/...pNwcL-TNHiG7rQYc6dzIP6VkldaA#comments-9041643


Why?
Are that age group suddenly immune to the virus?

Did look like they were more at risk of dying than some groups. That has changed?
Or they happen to be daily mail readers responding to the narrative the particular media has created in order to entertain its readers?
 
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Well I had my flu vaccine yesterday and as in previous years I was asked to remain on the premises for 10-15 minutes afterwards, perhaps we are just more professional here in Wales.

Yes I can imagine so, having your flu jab 2 months later than in England or Scotland.

Early in the flu season was problematic for the local NHS? How many lives did that cost, how much productivity was lost due to people being off sick prior to the flu jab?
 
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So working your whole life, paying national insurance aswell as paying into a pension, only to retire and be tossed aside is OK?

They are also changing the human rights act next year, that should be a huge red flag to us all.

Was planning eventually to retire and claim state pension. Or perhaps retire and still potter about doing a few little business projects.
Not sure how I'd be tossed aside - lots of employers these days do not require staff to retire at a certain age though of course if unable to carry on doing the job that is another matter without getting into age.
When you own the company who exactly is going to toss you aside?


Who is changing the human rights act next year? Do you have as much input on the changes as you did regarding when it was initially done or any amendments since?

They (whoever 'they' are) can change what they want. If I'm bothered about it then maybe I'll do something about it. If I'm not bothered about it then I'll focus on other stuff.
How exactly does the human rights act in particular impact my day to day life?
 
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So, get yourself a Lasting Power of Attorney for Health and Welfare so your attorneys speak for you if you cannot and/or an Advance Directive which sets out your wishes for end of life.

Yes, very handy.
I hold lasting POA for a relative, almost had to use it a few years back when she became very sick suddenly. Cannot always make plans last minute, can plan for unexpected problems at least.
 
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Yes, very handy.
I hold lasting POA for a relative, almost had to use it a few years back when she became very sick suddenly. Cannot always make plans last minute, can plan for unexpected problems at least.

People coming to us too late to make LPAs is the biggest frustration in my working life.
 
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Well I hope no one here takes the vaccine and is 65 and over.

Also while you're there, you might aswell read the best rated comments.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/...pNwcL-TNHiG7rQYc6dzIP6VkldaA#comments-9041643
Referring to the Daily Fail for anything pretty much discounts your argument.
So working your whole life, paying national insurance aswell as paying into a pension, only to retire and be tossed aside is OK?
Eh? Nobody is tossing me off. Not at my age.
 
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In The Netherlands 87,000 nurses are refusing to take the Hoax Vaccine....

( 3 days ago https://twitter.com/veritasnewsfeed...YMZlLi-7B2gpAw736kucnwxx7oPpekejIAXsTfyB5719w )

Now imagine if the news media in the UK would even report on things like this. Or anything that balances out the hype & propaganda being pushed on people.


Daresay there will be some offering advance injection of the hoax vaccine for a few hundred quid a time. And plenty of people willing to pay for it.
Instead of waiting a few months for an actual vaccine.
 
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In The Netherlands 87,000 nurses are refusing to take the Hoax Vaccine....

( 3 days ago https://twitter.com/veritasnewsfeed...YMZlLi-7B2gpAw736kucnwxx7oPpekejIAXsTfyB5719w )

Now imagine if the news media in the UK would even report on things like this. Or anything that balances out the hype & propaganda being pushed on people.

You're not going to have many people consider what you're saying when quoting a tweet that is from a hidden conspiracy, new world order, everyone is lying to you style twitter account.

Just makes you look like the one following propaganda.

From extremely quick and rushed research on her/the other people in the video, it appears they're full on conspiracy theorists who say things based on their opinions, rather than science.
 
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Has anyone noticed that vaccine introduction in many places hasn't happened yet but celebrities seem to be getting theirs?
 
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yet again someone labelling some else as a "conspiracy theorist" as some kind of insult, of which shows the media has brainwashed you.

Once you realise all of these conspiracy nuts were right, you will well and truly regret not listening.

If conspiracy theorists are right we are in far more trouble than we realised.
Luckily their track record tends to be ... wrong.
 
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yet again someone labelling some else as a "conspiracy theorist" as some kind of insult, of which shows the media has brainwashed you.

Once you realise all of these conspiracy nuts were right, you will well and truly regret not listening.

You do realise the irony in what you're saying?

You're saying that if someone listens to the media, they're brainwashed.

Yet you're blindly following Twitter accounts that clearly have a hidden agenda, are clearly showing false information and spreading lies... yet you're not brainwashed.

How does that work?

I will truly NOT regret following twitter accounts like that. I listen to and research science and not some man waving a stick saying the earth is flat on Twitter.
 
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Pathetic, did I mention Twitter at all?

and now you are accusing me of being a flat-earther?

In all honesty, I give up with the lot of you. I have nothing to gain from this at all, I'm just trying to warn you all of what's to come, so you can prepare.

My friend's dad died in a motorcycle accident back in March, unfortunately, he died on the scene, but on his death certificate he died of 'covid19'. This is one of many stories people are telling, but you are not willing to listen, you just retort to insults about flat earth.

If you believe in science, I suggest you look at this website;

https://worlddoctorsalliance.com/

signed by 59,000 doctors all over the world, are these doctor's 'flat earthers too'?

Are you forgetting you quoted a tweet from a conspiracy theory account?

Also, your friend is lying about his father. Or maybe not lying to you, but misleading you.

That's not how death certificates work. If he died in a motorcycle accident, at the scene, his death would not say he died of covid-19. It's just not how it works, sorry!

It may say he died with covid-19, but it wouldn't be listed as the main cause of death.

You're misleading people based on things you have no clue what you're talking about.
 
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https://worlddoctorsalliance.com/

signed by 59,000 doctors all over the world, are these doctor's 'flat earthers too'?

Signed by 59,000 doctors? I'm guessing you haven't looked at the website as you're making yourself look really dumb by linking that and saying that.

Did you see that anyone can 'sign the letter'? All you do is enter your name on the website and select your job. That's it.

I just signed it as 'Mr Kentucky McPizzaface', as a doctor.

They don't verify who is signing it, (as they only ask for a name and a job. No proof, not even an email), and it's counted.

How can you link and believe in such nonsense.

EDIT: With a quick Google, the first person they list on that website is 'Prof Dolores Cahil'. A lady that was asked to resign from a scientific committee she was part of for spreading lies and mis-information.

The second person listed, Mohammad Adil, was suspended from the UK medical register.

I actually feel embarrassed for you.
 
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....................an MRNA vaccine that will change your DNA inevitably, .................

Messenger RNA (mRNA) is found in all living cells. These strands of genetic code act as chemical intermediaries between the DNA in our chromosomes and the cellular machinery that produces the proteins we need to function: mRNA provides the instructions this machinery needs to assemble these proteins.

mRNA isn’t the same as DNA, and it can’t combine with our DNA to change our genetic code.

It is also relatively fragile, and will only hang around inside a cell for about 72 hours, before being degraded.

FullFact.
BBC

I suggest you stop smoking whatever you are on - it is damaging your brain
 
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Matt Hancock discussing 'genome sequencing'

Do you think its a coincidence this vaccine is the first of its kind? an MRNA vaccine that will change your DNA inevitably, that also skipped animal trials?


what does the world economic forum want?

  • A cashless society.
  • smart cities.
  • a reliance on public transport (no personal cars).
  • full surveillance using facial recognition.
  • no pubs/bars/restaurants/theme parks/entertainment etc
  • your only source of entertainment will be at home.
  • no one to own their own home or properties.
  • you will own nothing, you will only be able to rent items.
  • A social score
  • no alcohol/tobacco
  • any buildings and homes not allocated to a 'smart city' will be destroyed and left for nature to thrive.
And that is just to name a few key points, but to create this new world they will have to destroy the old one (this is where we are currently) you will lose your home, any savings, your freedom.

These lockdown's arent to prevent the virus from spreading, but to destroy all businesses. Any businesses that do survive the government will then buy and have full control over. They will not only our world/economy/businesses but lives, they strongly believe the world is overpopulated and we over-consume, so they will kill billions to reach their goal of stopping 'climate change'

Feel free to watch all of the WEF videos, you will probably notice a few familiar faces.

https://www.youtube.com/worldeconomicforum/videos

The reason I am telling you this is because these so-called globalists/elite need us to pull this off, and if everyone realises what's really going on, it could be stopped.

I wish you all good luck for next year, and if you think is going away anytime soon or back to normal, you are naive. I will steer away from this subject from now on.

I mean this in a nice way but you genuinely need help.
 
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The vaccine has been thoroughly tested but has caused a severe allergic reaction in at least 2 people on the day it was first administered. Does anyone else wonder why this had not been picked up during thorough testing?

It may have been a severe reaction or not, but AFAIK they were treated for it and are OK. So TBH, being a cynic, I think they're using this as some softening up for the British population*, along the lines of "this proves not everyone can have the vaccine so we will have to keep up the suppression measures until over 70% are vaccinated and the virus is pretty much stamped out", i.e. it'll be another year of this, not just three months or so.
Well, I say Eff Off to that. Once pretty well all of the vulnerable are vaccinated (and they constitute 99% of the deaths from Covid) we should be getting back to normal as quickly as possible. And I mean normal, and not any new normal bollox.
As for me, once the death rate has dropped below that of Flu (an average of 40 a day I think), I will be living my life as normal, including getting a dispensation for not wearing a mask.

* A rerun of the "new Covid" scare tactics. Incidentally I read teh other day that up to 150,000 people may have Long Covid. The definition of which is "any symptom no matter how mild [my emphasis] still present over 3 months from Covid infection". Well if that's true, when about 9 million had had Covid (by three months back), that'd be 1 in 60. It's even less than the 1 in 45 they had been mentioning in the small print when trying to scare everyone the first time....
 
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RNA vaccines look likely to cause auto immunity issues. Given that this is soaring as an issue anyway, I think there will certainly be risks involved with taking it...
 
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RNA vaccines look likely to cause auto immunity issues. Given that this is soaring as an issue anyway, I think there will certainly be risks involved with taking it...
Based on what evidence, exactly?
 
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It may have been a severe reaction or not, but AFAIK they were treated for it and are OK. So TBH, being a cynic, I think they're using this as some softening up for the British population*, along the lines of "this proves not everyone can have the vaccine so we will have to keep up the suppression measures until over 70% are vaccinated and the virus is pretty much stamped out", i.e. it'll be another year of this, not just three months or so.
Well, I say Eff Off to that. Once pretty well all of the vulnerable are vaccinated (and they constitute 99% of the deaths from Covid) we should be getting back to normal as quickly as possible. And I mean normal, and not any new normal bollox.
As for me, once the death rate has dropped below that of Flu (an average of 40 a day I think), I will be living my life as normal, including getting a dispensation for not wearing a mask.

* A rerun of the "new Covid" scare tactics. Incidentally I read teh other day that up to 150,000 people may have Long Covid. The definition of which is "any symptom no matter how mild [my emphasis] still present over 3 months from Covid infection". Well if that's true, when about 9 million had had Covid (by three months back), that'd be 1 in 60. It's even less than the 1 in 45 they had been mentioning in the small print when trying to scare everyone the first time....


And hang the NHS out to dry is that it?

Just hope you don't need an ambulance or emergency medical treatment next year.

Oh and your waiting list for being seen for routine problems gets extended 5 years.
But hey at least the vulnerable people who are somehow getting the virus despite preventative measures will be somewhat vaccinated.
 
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RNA vaccines look likely to cause auto immunity issues. Given that this is soaring as an issue anyway, I think there will certainly be risks involved with taking it...

Exactly what specifics will they cause? Auto immune covers a massive area. Viruses can cause auto immune issues - pretty hard these days to get away from stuff causing issues.
 
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The flu vaccine can have pretty serious side effects but more people suffer the same "side effects" from the real thing by not having the vaccination. Just saying.

If Aspirin were developed today it would not be allowed on the market due to the potential side effects.
 
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The flu vaccine can have pretty serious side effects but more people suffer the same "side effects" from the real thing by not having the vaccination. Just saying.
So far the Covid vaccine has reported fewer side effects than the flu vaccine. They are made in totally different ways.
 
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The flu vaccine can have pretty serious side effects but more people suffer the same "side effects" from the real thing by not having the vaccination. Just saying.

If Aspirin were developed today it would not be allowed on the market due to the potential side effects.

There's people allergic to penicillin.
One of the greatest medical advances in modern times - and some unable to have it due to allergy.
Yet its saved millions of lives.

Aspirin very handy - commonly given to us old people as a minor blood thinner, handy for heart problems.
You have a heart attack they give you a small aspirin. Its an effective (and very cheap now) little medicine.
 
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And hang the NHS out to dry is that it?

Just hope you don't need an ambulance or emergency medical treatment next year.

Oh and your waiting list for being seen for routine problems gets extended 5 years.
But hey at least the vulnerable people who are somehow getting the virus despite preventative measures will be somewhat vaccinated.

I'm not sure where you're driving at with this answer. 99% of the deaths (and the vast majority of the hospitalisations) are in the vulnerable groups. If you vaccinate pretty well all of them in that group with a vaccine which is 95% effective that reduces your death rate by 94%. So, if 500 are dying now (at the peak of "flu season"), that would then become about 30 a day, which is less than flu. Even is you increase that that figure by 50% to allow for vulnerable people who either will not have the vaccine or cannot have it that is 45 a day*. If Flu kills 40 a day (on average) it is not worth completely altering society and shagging the economy for 45 deaths a day, particularly as that figure will continue dropping over time as more and more of the population are vaccinated.

* Bear in mind self isolation still remains an option for people who have not had the vaccine and/or have a high risk aversion.
 
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I'm not sure where you're driving at with this answer. 99% of the deaths (and the vast majority of the hospitalisations) are in the vulnerable groups. If you vaccinate pretty well all of them in that group with a vaccine which is 95% effective that reduces your death rate by 94%. So, if 500 are dying now (at the peak of "flu season"), that would then become about 30 a day, which is less than flu. Even is you increase that that figure by 50% to allow for vulnerable people who either will not have the vaccine or cannot have it that is 45 a day*. If Flu kills 40 a day (on average) it is not worth completely altering society and shagging the economy for 45 deaths a day, particularly as that figure will continue dropping over time as more and more of the population are vaccinated.

* Bear in mind self isolation still remains an option for people who have not had the vaccine and/or have a high risk aversion.

You have seen the data breakdown on hospital admissions?
 
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everyone seems like they're pro-vaccine, but let's have a look at a few numbers.

Let's look at autism by the numbers

Besides doctors getting better at detection?
Or people being more aware themselves and therefore looking for it?

Some autistic people are adults for many years before being diagnosed.

Just think, by not having vaccine you can instead require people to have 6 or 7 lockdowns a year. For many years. And waiting lists for NHS treatment runs into decades. Does that suit your societal agenda better?
Or is decision to avoid the vaccine simply one you personally will take?
 
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