PIR Ceiling Lights with IP20 Rating

[hotel-man]

Im looking to change all the old style lights within our hotel corridors (NOT the emergency lighting).

Ive only really found two suitable lights;

and

The first one is IP20 rated and the second is IP44

I prefer the look of the first one but the second has a better IP.


Can any tradespeople let me know if they are aware of any problem fitting IP20 item in our corridors ie fire regs etc.

And finally, Im looking at between 20 and 30 of these to be fitted - anyone wish to give me a fitting price (must be fully qualified). Im in TA8 postcode area.

Thanks

 

[hotel-man]

A little more research has found some microwave motion detector lights (IP44)

Price in Poland seems to calculate to £16GBP each inc tax.

Obviously shipping to add too.

Anyone fancy fitting - or see potential problem?

Im guessing they just connect to the power cables in existing light fitting and wall switch can be blanked ??

 

[MrCloser]

IP44 usually external or wet zones, I think IP20 will be ok for a corridor.

If they are flush mounted rather than recessed I don't think fire regs are an issue here.

Filament incandescent bulbs are being phased out, something to bear in mind for the future. CFL low energy aren't really best suited to on/off applications like this. Also they have a high inductive load so not all lights are suited to CFL.

Blanking off the switch maybe not imo as you really need a method of isolating, even if for changing bulbs.

Been a while since I did IEE 16th edition, hopefully someone else will confirm or refute this.

Finally, think of the type of light, cool white like a strip light has a bluish hue and looks nasty, where warm white / halogen /LED makes everything look more colourful!

 

[Orrell Electrics]

Hi IP20 will be fine for the corridors.

If i was you i would be looking at LED's, as the previous post mentioned they will eventually phase out all incandescent bulbs.

In my humble opinion the LED's are far superior - a better light and the cost savings especially with that number of fittings could save you a fair bit of money long term.

They also do an emergency LED light fitting these days....

 

[hotel-man]

Thanks Guys (or Gals)

Just need to find a fitter now - can provide a room and breakfast.

 

[fattony]

What area are you?

 

[hotel-man]

TA8 1 Somerset M5 J22 area

 

[Beachcomber]

If you PM me the job spec I may have someone who can take care of it.

 

[Tech4Homes]

Too far away from us but be careful with switching fluorescent lights on PIR's in high traffic areas, the 2D fluorescents aren't really rated for constant switching, we've had jobs where people have installed these in high traffic areas and they don't last long. You are far better off with LED, they do cost a bit more but are cheaper to run and significantly cut maintenance costs, they also have no issues with switching from PIR.

For most cases the fluorescents will be fine, but if it's high traffic I'd be a bit wary, it may be better to go for a system that dims down to 10% rather than switches off.

Fern Howard are a very good brand, I'm not sure if they still make their PIR fittings though, they do however have some microwave sensor ones.

By the way, you'll want to install a key switch in place of the existing switch for isolation.

 

[hotel-man]

Hi

We are looking at LED not flourescent - only real reason to change the lights is to save money on energy cost so LED is the way to go.

Im looking at microwave instead of std PIR. I read that microwave will pick up movement through a door - is that correct?

If so, it does worry me that someone simply moving in a bedroom will keep triggering the corridor light and therefore the saving wont be as good.

Cheers

 

[tswebdesign]

hi their , i work at an electrical wholesaler and we have many led low cost lights
we have a pir bulkhead that is ip65

please contact me as we can supply gu10's and other commercial lighting at low cost's

 

[LED Lightworld]

Hey, we can design, supply, and install a low energy lighting scheme for your hotel- at sensible money.
We have numerous hotels and guest houses as customers.
PM me if interested.

Gareth

 

[Beachcomber]

Hotel-man, are you all sorted now?