In fact, weren't you the one saying that you need to get friendly with the manager in order to get promoted? A manager who lets personal friendships affect his decision maker is a bad manager.
Have you ever BEEN a manager?
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In fact, weren't you the one saying that you need to get friendly with the manager in order to get promoted? A manager who lets personal friendships affect his decision maker is a bad manager.
Have you ever BEEN a manager?
I always say when starting at a new company that there is always a 6 month bedding period. It's probably the toughest period of your employment there. I would see how it goes for 6 months, settle in and if things still aren't better then this workplace is not for you and should look to move on. You need to be happy at work as you spend most of your week there, nothing worse than being in a workplace where you're not happy.
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And after 6 months,Resign, kick your manager in the goolies, lock their computer system, Call all other staff w*****s and go and live a hermit's life on Shetland or other out of the way places
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"Emotional stress" because someone is being abrupt with you? Have you had a mental health assessment?
If you can't cope with this, then it's entirely possible you have some kind of autism spectrum disorder and you need to seek help.
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You don't know you'd been born having a chisel to comb your hair!!
We used to dream we had chisel's for combs. It woulda felt like soft silk flowing through our nit riddles strands.
We used to use broken serrated tin cans for combs and the only thing that would sooth our scabby heads were rotten fish dumbed over us.
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By & large, I hate people ....so an office where nobody speaks to one another (except when they have to), is my idea of workplace Nirvana.
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Yes I have a degree, yes I a
While the culture problems continue I've discovered over the last few days that:
1. Being really nice to my colleagues at least stops 80% of the abruptness and whose the daddy going on with me as the target. They still carry it on with others. I think whats going on is I've upset most of their thinking processes where they need a moral justification to treat me badly.
2. With the remaining incidents I have almost totally eliminated them by making sure its embarrassing as hell for the other person if they try being abrupt or playing whose the daddy with me.
So most my stress has gone.
While the culture problems continue I've discovered over the last few days that:
1. Being really nice to my colleagues at least stops 80% of the abruptness and whose the daddy going on with me as the target. They still carry it on with others. I think whats going on is I've upset most of their thinking processes where they need a moral justification to treat me badly.
2. With the remaining incidents I have almost totally eliminated them by making sure its embarrassing as hell for the other person if they try being abrupt or playing whose the daddy with me.
So most my stress has gone.
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What you really mean is "I'm going to ignore the replies I don't like because they are wrong. Just like most of my co-workers, and my new employers, are also wrong".
People offering opinions you don't like isn't trolling.
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General observation - the most effective way to ignore people is to gnome them, not to come back and brag about how you have ognored them
More serious point - it must be 3 years since you first came on here with your rather arrogant threads suggesting that your business degree gave you some moral superiority over people who were getting on with their jobs. That's probably reasonable from a new graduate. However, at this stage the suggest that you are either on a wind up, or that you need a huge reality check as to why you aren't fitting in to regular working environments.
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Personally I think he/she is still in the immature, just got my degree, know it all stage. Can't really blame him/her as they are, as he/she has proven, inexperienced in the working environment. It's just a wonder as to why he/she thought a business a degree qualifies them to comment on business?
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To be frank - what amazes me is the assumptions being made. My wife works in a big department at our local hospital. She is quiet and hardworking, having swapped a pressure filled banking job for one where she is low in grade with little responsibility. The description posted three pages back of how the department is run is very similar. However, now they have an influx of younger people who DO chat, laugh, messy round and take the job less seriously. Productivity has gone down, staff outings in the evenings have increased and next day absenteeism increased to match it. More people are happy and smiling. Bosses unhappy because staffing has had to go up to cover the workload.
As a new manager in a business area, you want things to be your way, but often, their historical way of working is an evolution that works for them, with that staff. Tamper and tinker at your risk. Older workers may just not wish to have fun at work.
My business is hectic in two periods of the year, my most lucrative role being managing 30 people working for me, and controlling hordes of others who work for a venue, and are there to support what we do. Every single place is different, and there is no point whatsoever trying to instigate processes they will fight against, and remove as soon as I go. They resent that kind of management. I develop what I do to give them the easiest ride I can, subject to what I MUST have. Rather than be seen as a 'manager', I volunteer for things that maybe few of them enjoy. If something bad happens, then I might be the person who finds the mop and bucket and clears the sick up - which is not my job, but taking somebody off their job to do it when I could do it and leave them doing what they are good at means I get incredible respect - for taking a suit off and turning up with steel toe caps on to help when they are really short. Years ago, I did this kind of work, so it's no big deal. Seeing me remain calm, and sorting things like this out means when I need things, I get them, without putting my boss hat on.
In my slack time, I still do some school supply teaching, as my ancient qualifications still count. You can walk into some school staff rooms and there is NO talking - everyone sits with one empty seat between them, and nobody says hello, or even makes eye contact. Other schools have noisy and wild staff rooms. Is it my job to start telling jokes and trying to get them to interact? Course not.
If you have a team who are quiet, perhaps sullen and uninterested in socialising, then sit back, and make gentle progress and respect their preferred working style. Walking into a new job and starting change puts their brakes on, perhaps covertly, and creates resentment about the new guy.
This is basic management stuff in the real world. I got told the other day I'm the most chilled out company manager this person had ever worked with - nothing phases me and I never lose my temper and I'm very supportive. None of this is true, but if they think it, then I've done my job - because behind the scenes I'm like an olympic synchronised swimmer - thrashing around under the water, but serene on the surface. Reading the OPs other posts, he expects sooooo much, and wants things to be done his way, and if they are done differently, isn't willing to wait and investigate behind the scenes.
It's, I suspect, just experience that is missing. I n' work out how old he is, or how experienced he actually is - but asking these questions on a forum suggests an unfamiliarity with management in real life. This comes with experience, and if you have the experience, you respond to forum questions, not ask them. You perceive a problem. Maybe they don't like each other. Maybe they just want to do their job? That's it!
As a new manager in a business area, you want things to be your way, but often, their historical way of working is an evolution that works for them, with that staff. Tamper and tinker at your risk. Older workers may just not wish to have fun at work.
My business is hectic in two periods of the year, my most lucrative role being managing 30 people working for me, and controlling hordes of others who work for a venue, and are there to support what we do. Every single place is different, and there is no point whatsoever trying to instigate processes they will fight against, and remove as soon as I go. They resent that kind of management. I develop what I do to give them the easiest ride I can, subject to what I MUST have. Rather than be seen as a 'manager', I volunteer for things that maybe few of them enjoy. If something bad happens, then I might be the person who finds the mop and bucket and clears the sick up - which is not my job, but taking somebody off their job to do it when I could do it and leave them doing what they are good at means I get incredible respect - for taking a suit off and turning up with steel toe caps on to help when they are really short. Years ago, I did this kind of work, so it's no big deal. Seeing me remain calm, and sorting things like this out means when I need things, I get them, without putting my boss hat on.
In my slack time, I still do some school supply teaching, as my ancient qualifications still count. You can walk into some school staff rooms and there is NO talking - everyone sits with one empty seat between them, and nobody says hello, or even makes eye contact. Other schools have noisy and wild staff rooms. Is it my job to start telling jokes and trying to get them to interact? Course not.
If you have a team who are quiet, perhaps sullen and uninterested in socialising, then sit back, and make gentle progress and respect their preferred working style. Walking into a new job and starting change puts their brakes on, perhaps covertly, and creates resentment about the new guy.
This is basic management stuff in the real world. I got told the other day I'm the most chilled out company manager this person had ever worked with - nothing phases me and I never lose my temper and I'm very supportive. None of this is true, but if they think it, then I've done my job - because behind the scenes I'm like an olympic synchronised swimmer - thrashing around under the water, but serene on the surface. Reading the OPs other posts, he expects sooooo much, and wants things to be done his way, and if they are done differently, isn't willing to wait and investigate behind the scenes.
It's, I suspect, just experience that is missing. I n' work out how old he is, or how experienced he actually is - but asking these questions on a forum suggests an unfamiliarity with management in real life. This comes with experience, and if you have the experience, you respond to forum questions, not ask them. You perceive a problem. Maybe they don't like each other. Maybe they just want to do their job? That's it!
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