Legal Advice, Non Compete/Solicitation Clause

Michael1979

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Hi, Hopefully someone can advise our chances of successfully defending ourselves against our employer trying to stop us leaving. I feel the non solicitation clause saying we should not compete against, stops us from doing our profession and restricts fair competition.

There are 3 of us looking to set up a business in part competition to our current employer.

We set up a business on Company House and our employer found out and officially warned us to cease any further activity and reminded us of our contract.

2 of us unfortunately signed these none compete/solicitation contract amendments when we got promotions to deputy sales managers about 4 years ago. The 3rd hasn't signed any amended contracts for over 16 years and thinks the clauses were not in the contract then.

Please see below the extracts we've been reminded of and any advise would be grateful. I was thinking maybe the 2 of us that signed become merely shareholders not directors of the new business and do day to day jobs such as logistics and admin not in direct contact with former clients, leaving this to the 3rd person?

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CONFIDENTIALITY: The Employee shall not make use of, divulge or communicate to any person (save in the performance of his duties under this contract) any of the trade secrets or other confidential information of or relating to the Company that he may have received or obtained while in the service of the Company. This restriction shall continue to apply after the termination of his/her employment up to a period of 12 months, but shall cease to apply to information ordered to be disclosed by a court of competent jurisdiction or otherwise required to be disclosed by law. Confidential information shall include, but not be limited to the following:-


a) Any information that the employee has been informed is confidential to any of the Company’s suppliers, clients, customers or trading partners.

b) Any information relating to the fact that a particular organisation is a supplier to, client or customer of, or otherwise trades or does business with the Company.

c) Any information supplied by any supplier, client or customer of the Company that is not already available in the public domain whether by content or form, to include, but not limited to: price lists, specifications, circuit diagrams, schematics of products, trading information, payment schedules, invoices, delivery notes or schedules.

d) Any other information that may reasonably be considered confidential by either the Company or the companies or individuals it does business with.

The employee further agrees to take all reasonable precautions to ensure that information in his/her possession is properly and securely stored and that it is not placed or left in such a state that it may be accessed by unauthorised parties.

The employee also agrees not to make copies of (including photographs, photocopies and other means of reproduction) or to remove information from the Company premises without explicit written authorisation from the Company directors.

In the event that the employee is in breach of this agreement, either directly or by negligence, the employee agrees to indemnify the Company for the full amount of any successful claims (including costs thereof etc.) made against the company by any parties in respect of breach of confidentiality, or any other loss suffered by the Company directly or indirectly as a result of such a breach.


SOLICITATION OF CUSTOMERS Whilst in the employment of the company and for a period of 12 months after leaving the company, you shall not compete directly or indirectly with the Company for a period of 12 months. The agreement to not compete with the company includes not competing on your own account, or on behalf of, or in conjunction with, any other person, firm or company. The non-compete agreement includes you agreeing not to canvas or solicit, or by any other means, seek to conduct business of the kind carried on by the Company with which you were concerned during the course of your employment, or seek to conduct any such business with any customer of the Company with whom you had material dealings in the course of your duties during the 12 month period ending with the date of termination of your employment.


Neither during nor after employment with this company should employees contact customers of the company to lure them away from doing business with the company. Nor should they entice other employees to leave the company. In such cases *** has the right to be reimbursed for financial losses due to noncompliance with the confidentiality clauses and has the right to deduct this from the employee’s salary.

Non-Solicitation of Staff: Whilst in the employment of the Company, and for a period of 12 months after leaving the company, You shall not, either on your own behalf, or for any other person, directly or indirectly, endeavour to entice away from the Company, any employee who has benefited from the specialised engineering training, development and experience provided by The Company, and with whom You had regular contact with during the 12 months preceding the termination of your employment. ***

Thanks in advance
Regards
Michael
 
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Whether your 3rd colleague signed contracts or not, if a new contract were issued to them with these clauses, they would be bound by them.

However the non-compete clause is probably unenforceable as being both too long and too wide. 12 months is generally considered over the top and anything longer than 6 months is frowned on now. The restriction itself is not limited enough. You cannot, effectively, do anything the company does. That would probably be seen as a restraint of trade rather than a protection of the business' interests, as it is not restricted by geographical area or to those clients with whom you have had contact, although those clients are specified.

The staff solicitation clause is probably legally enforceable, but it only stops you approaching them.

The confidentiality clause may be enforceable, in terms of non-disclosure, but it is hard to see how they can control your use of something that is in your head.

This is not legal advice. The possible ramifications are very expensive. You need to seek proper expert opinion from a commercial lawyer.
 
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I see you have another thread about the same issue. I have asked for the 2 threads to be merged so all the advice is in one place.
 
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I see you have another thread about the same issue. I have asked for the 2 threads to be merged so all the advice is in one place.
Thank you yes started a threat last night but didn't have access to the contract wording. Anyone else feel the non compete clause is too restricted and possibly void? I feel it personally is. As for solicitation of costumers, how does it work if they contact you having viewed your LinkedIn profile for example?

Regards
 
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Thank you yes started a threat last night but didn't have access to the contract wording. Anyone else feel the non compete clause is too restricted and possibly void? I feel it personally is. As for solicitation of costumers, how does it work if they contact you having viewed your LinkedIn profile for example?

Regards

Ultimately its down to the employer to start a court case and have a judge decide. They may not want to risk that and everyone else find out they aren't restricted if they lose.
Or they may believe they are in the right hence the timescale as it is.
 
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It does not appear to be restricted to a Geographical Area either.
Is that a good thing for me? Appreciate all this advise, I hope our solicitor agrees when we see one.

Can't believe in this day and age an employee can basically hold you to ransom. This contract forces you to work for them and no one else (doing same job in skilled at) and there's nothing I can do
 
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Michael, (I presume you meant 'Employer' can hold you to ransom) Regard this as a 'Walk in the Park' when compared to Overseas Contracts!
 
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So this morning we got pulled into HR and told if we don't resign as directors, shareholders whatever of the other business by the end if the day they would take legal action.

More info clarity on the terms would be good. Re non solicitation, does that include if they approach us, maybe having seen a advert or our LinkedIn profile?
 
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So this morning we got pulled into HR and told if we don't resign as directors, shareholders whatever of the other business by the end if the day they would take legal action.

More info clarity on the terms would be good. Re non solicitation, does that include if they approach us, maybe having seen a advert or our LinkedIn profile?

I already gave that advice.

The staff solicitation clause is probably legally enforceable, but it only stops you approaching them.

As previously advised you need formal legal advice and it sounds like you need it now.
 
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So this morning we got pulled into HR and told if we don't resign as directors, shareholders whatever of the other business by the end if the day they would take legal action.

More info clarity on the terms would be good. Re non solicitation, does that include if they approach us, maybe having seen a advert or our LinkedIn profile?

If you are already involved in another business, then that would fall under moonlighting as well as non-compete/solicitation.
 
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So this morning we got pulled into HR and told if we don't resign as directors, shareholders whatever of the other business by the end if the day they would take legal action.

Can you clarify, is the new Ltd Co actually trading? Have you actually broken the terms of your contract?
 
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Can't believe in this day and age an employee can basically hold you to ransom. This contract forces you to work for them and no one else (doing same job in skilled at) and there's nothing I can do
No one held you to ransom. No one forced you to work for this company in the first place. They offered you a contract and you signed it when it suited you. Now it no longer suits you they are suddenly unreasonable/to blame. If you didn't like the terms you should have negotiated and, if they wouldn't budge that tells you all you need to know about them as an employer and you go somewhere else.

Having said that, the terms of the non-compete are (as others have mentioned) unenforceable - though you may have to go to court to prove that.
 
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