It's happening here by default!

[gpietersz]

Of course young man.

https://www.un.org/esa/agenda21/natlinfo/wssd/summarypublication.pdf

So where does that say there should be one world government, or an end to single family homes.

 

[Talay]

It's not a choice of death or 100% healthy recovery from Covid. I personally know 3 people who have been diagnosed with long term issues from picking up the virus.

All are under 50 the youngest 26. Their issues vary, lung, kidneys etc
All are unable to go back to work because of health. So how are they going to help the economy.

I have fired a number of also previously healthy but inherently lazy individuals who thought they would like to be furloughed or simply not work or do anything easy to get a fist full of benefits money.

Their kids all have an "ism" or have an acronym disease and are "big boned" rather than it being poor parenting, lazyitis, a shitty diet and a lack of exercise.

Lazyness is the disease of the 21st century. My body has suffered multiple injuries, internal and external, some serious, near fatal but I don't sit on my arse claiming I cannot work and wanting handouts. No, I just get on with it.

Perhaps we need to pull the plug of benefits and see how many imaginary sick people can actually work when they are starving ?

 

[fisicx]

So where does that say there should be one world government, or an end to single family homes.

It doesn’t. But that’s how he has interpreted the concepts.

 

[Mr D]

I have fired a number of also previously healthy but inherently lazy individuals who thought they would like to be furloughed or simply not work or do anything easy to get a fist full of benefits money.

Their kids all have an "ism" or have an acronym disease and are "big boned" rather than it being poor parenting, lazyitis, a shitty diet and a lack of exercise.

Lazyness is the disease of the 21st century. My body has suffered multiple injuries, internal and external, some serious, near fatal but I don't sit on my arse claiming I cannot work and wanting handouts. No, I just get on with it.

Perhaps we need to pull the plug of benefits and see how many imaginary sick people can actually work when they are starving ?

Some will still be unable to work. And kill themselves trying.
Literally.

 

[gpietersz]

It doesn’t. But that’s how he has interpreted the concepts.

In other words, its a conspiracy theory.

I think he is working for the UN, to discredit criticism by distracting attention to implausible conspiracy theories. It worked for the Bilderberg group.

For those who did not get it, the last para is satirical. I do not actually think he is working for the UN - I do think conspiracy theorists do get in the way of real criticism and accountability.

 

[Jass T]

I have fired a number of also previously healthy but inherently lazy individuals who thought they would like to be furloughed or simply not work or do anything easy to get a fist full of benefits money.

Their kids all have an "ism" or have an acronym disease and are "big boned" rather than it being poor parenting, lazyitis, a shitty diet and a lack of exercise.

Lazyness is the disease of the 21st century. My body has suffered multiple injuries, internal and external, some serious, near fatal but I don't sit on my arse claiming I cannot work and wanting handouts. No, I just get on with it.

Perhaps we need to pull the plug of benefits and see how many imaginary sick people can actually work when they are starving ?

Not everybody is faking it. Everybody's case is different. True a lot of people do take the piss and great that you have managed to carry on. But doesn't mean everybody is able to.
My point was that no-one can say 100% Covid won't get you. Because your young and fit doesn't make you indestructible.

 

[thetiger2015]

Perhaps we need to pull the plug of benefits and see how many imaginary sick people can actually work when they are starving ?

Pretty big sledgehammer to crack a rather small nut.

It's also not treating the cause. Pulling the plug would also see genuine people disappearing down the plug hole and creates a different reality, one of extreme greed and theft. If someones life depends on being rich, it doesn't necessarily mean they're going to work to the top. It also means a lot of people would be prepared to steal your gold and let you disappear down the plughole - or a member of your family.

The benefits system should be a fall back, temporary or if you're disabled/unwell. It should cradle people and then allow them to return to work if they're able to, at the earliest opportunity.

The problem we have is much deeper. We have a psychological problem that's multi-generational. This current crop have parents who have never worked, perhaps even grandparents too.

One size doesn't fit all. There are plenty of people who have had poor upbringings or come from low income families and are now millionaires. You would have just tossed them away while trying to defend your pile of coins and that would have been detrimental to everyone else - the employees/the suppliers etc.

We need a better system and something that is more fluid but starts at a much younger age and drums in a good work ethic. Schools are terrible for this. They promote boredom and repetitive learning techniques that pigeon hole children too early. They also demand maths and science are the leading subjects - the reality is that you don't call a scientist to fix your roof, you call someone who's good with their hands and knows how to stop a leak. Just as you'd call a music teacher to learn piano, you wouldn't call someone from the maths department.

 

[Mr D]

Pretty big sledgehammer to crack a rather small nut.

It's also not treating the cause. Pulling the plug would also see genuine people disappearing down the plug hole and creates a different reality, one of extreme greed and theft. If someones life depends on being rich, it doesn't necessarily mean they're going to work to the top. It also means a lot of people would be prepared to steal your gold and let you disappear down the plughole - or a member of your family.

The benefits system should be a fall back, temporary or if you're disabled/unwell. It should cradle people and then allow them to return to work if they're able to, at the earliest opportunity.

The problem we have is much deeper. We have a psychological problem that's multi-generational. This current crop have parents who have never worked, perhaps even grandparents too.

One size doesn't fit all. There are plenty of people who have had poor upbringings or come from low income families and are now millionaires. You would have just tossed them away while trying to defend your pile of coins and that would have been detrimental to everyone else - the employees/the suppliers etc.

We need a better system and something that is more fluid but starts at a much younger age and drums in a good work ethic. Schools are terrible for this. They promote boredom and repetitive learning techniques that pigeon hole children too early. They also demand maths and science are the leading subjects - the reality is that you don't call a scientist to fix your roof, you call someone who's good with their hands and knows how to stop a leak. Just as you'd call a music teacher to learn piano, you wouldn't call someone from the maths department.

The benefits system for decades has operated on one size fits all.

A man in his 50s in Basingstoke and a woman in her late 20s in Lancaster get the exact same amount of benefit for the exact same general circumstances. Having individual personal differences doesn't make a difference to the benefit.
One could be disabled, both could be disabled, without changing the amount of money paid. We don't pay any extra benefits simply for being disabled.

Qualify for the benefit and you get money. Don't qualify for the benefit and you get nothing.

Great, a better system. Fiendishly more complicated, subject to abuse and most likely paying the wrong amount? Or far simpler and easier to understand, also more brutal?