The UK charges the 10% import on US goods and Now the US is doing the same to us
How will Trump tariffs affect us then?
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No it doesn't. UK import duties are applied an a product type basis and most either have no duty or are at 6%
Agree or disagree with them but this post sums up how a lot of Americans feel and why they support Trump and tariffs - https://x.com/FedPoasting/status/1908020393404764408
It may all be a bit misguided, but they want the USA to look after USA citizens more and think that Trump and his extreme ways will help them.
It may all be a bit misguided, but they want the USA to look after USA citizens more and think that Trump and his extreme ways will help them.
Isn't that exactly the problem in many 'western' countries? they want their government to look after their citizens, while the govertnments seem mre focussed on looking after the wealthy. So people vote for anyone who says they will make a difference to their lives, because their current lives are both dreadful and hopeless. Sadly, what they vote for is the most mendacious, viz Trump and Farage.
I can. It's easy! Ketchup is just tomatoes, paprika, sugar, pepper, a little chili sauce, vinegar essence and salt. Shove that lot into a blender and you're done. Cooking ain't rocket science!
All these magic sauces are based on vinegar, salt, chili and sugar. 'Daddy's' uses dark malt extract instead of sugar and gets the bulk with flour. All that commercial crap just uses powdered this and powdered that and boils it all up in water and charges 50p a bottle for 2p's worth of ingredients (8p for the bottle!)
If you want to make your curries tasty, add fresh lemon juice to the curry and add fermented seaweed, butter and sea salt to the rice. Fry a large onion together with thin slices of fresh ginger, add plum wine (we have a plum tree in the orchard) and strong Madras curry powder, honey and slices of garlic to taste.
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I cook Thai food all the time. It's not difficult. You just have to know how.
Not quite. The standard third country duty on goods with HS code 8703.90 (i.e. any country we don't have a trade deal with) is 10% - and we don't have a trade deal with US.
Commodity code 8703900000: Other - UK Integrated Online Tariff - GOV.UK
Other
So motor vehicle imports without a trade agreement are @ 10%.Not quite. The standard third country duty on goods with HS code 8703.90 (i.e. any country we don't have a trade deal with) is 10% - and we don't have a trade deal with US.
Commodity code 8703900000: Other - UK Integrated Online Tariff - GOV.UK
Otherwww.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk
Not just "Western Countries" if you read the replies - https://x.com/dhirajsinha/status/1908347227124462009
Here's an example of the effect of tariffs to an ecommerce business. I have a shipment waiting to go to the US. An order costing a bit more than the deminimis $800 threshold for customs so duty/tariffs might be due. We might have got a customs clearance fee of £16 from the courier but as nothing on it incurs duty, probably not. With the tariffs, here is the calculation:
item1, origin: GB, special tariff is 10% (£0.62)
item2, origin: GB, special tariff is 10% (£1.87)
item3, origin: GB, special tariff is 10% (£3.75)
item4, origin: CN, special tariff is 54% (£9.03)
item5, origin: GB, special tariff is 10% (£11.67)
item6, origin: GB, special tariff is 10% (£16.66)
items7, origin: EU, special tariff is 20% (£41.67)
Then there is the clearance fee on top. Just over £100 total has been added to this customer's order.
Most of our orders are not this big so the overall effect would not have been that much. Unfortunately, we sell quite a few Chinese made products and the real sucker punch is the new deminimis cancellation for Chinese goods. Any order for one of those will now cost 50% more plus the clearance fee. This will pretty much wipe out all of those orders, I suspect.
I sympathise with Americans who are annoyed that they've been paying for our defence (and consequently our heavily generous benefits system) for decades. Also the feeling that something urgent should be done about the problems of large scale immigration and drugs coming across their borders. Generally speaking, the media and politicians do over-hype stuff. Remember the whole Brexit fearmonger thing ('it's a train crash', we were going to 'fall off a cliff into the abyss' the day after etc'). We soldier on; it caused short term pain but overall only a minor market shift. However, the orange ignoramus living in his own feedback bubble has got this badly wrong. Anyone who thinks these tariffs will not have much effect and things will settle down after a while are living in cuckoo land. Hence the market reaction. The only question is whether it will be a recesssion or a depression.
Still, as with all problems, there are also opportunities and the UK has been given a significant edge.
item1, origin: GB, special tariff is 10% (£0.62)
item2, origin: GB, special tariff is 10% (£1.87)
item3, origin: GB, special tariff is 10% (£3.75)
item4, origin: CN, special tariff is 54% (£9.03)
item5, origin: GB, special tariff is 10% (£11.67)
item6, origin: GB, special tariff is 10% (£16.66)
items7, origin: EU, special tariff is 20% (£41.67)
Then there is the clearance fee on top. Just over £100 total has been added to this customer's order.
Most of our orders are not this big so the overall effect would not have been that much. Unfortunately, we sell quite a few Chinese made products and the real sucker punch is the new deminimis cancellation for Chinese goods. Any order for one of those will now cost 50% more plus the clearance fee. This will pretty much wipe out all of those orders, I suspect.
I sympathise with Americans who are annoyed that they've been paying for our defence (and consequently our heavily generous benefits system) for decades. Also the feeling that something urgent should be done about the problems of large scale immigration and drugs coming across their borders. Generally speaking, the media and politicians do over-hype stuff. Remember the whole Brexit fearmonger thing ('it's a train crash', we were going to 'fall off a cliff into the abyss' the day after etc'). We soldier on; it caused short term pain but overall only a minor market shift. However, the orange ignoramus living in his own feedback bubble has got this badly wrong. Anyone who thinks these tariffs will not have much effect and things will settle down after a while are living in cuckoo land. Hence the market reaction. The only question is whether it will be a recesssion or a depression.
Still, as with all problems, there are also opportunities and the UK has been given a significant edge.
Yes, but it's not Heinz Tomato Ketchup just as home made Beer and fried Chicken aren't London pride or Kentucky fried.
My comments followed those about cooking every meal which few people can or have the time to do. I cook Indian and Thai using pastes and sauces, have just bought a dozen spices to make my own from scratch. However good it turns out it won't replicate any straight from the fridge convenience meal.
There is a simple reason for that - namely the sh!t they put in it
1. Natural sh!t - fat/sugar/salt. Not inherently bad, but used to excess i n processed and take-away food
2. Unnatural sh!t - which is entirely bad. Because it's chemicals but also because much of it designed to fool you, 'flavour enhancer' the clue is in the name. Designed to give you an instant dopamine hit of short taste, so you will immediately want more, vs the long taste of quality, natural foods.
Do 'people ' really not have time to cook, or do they choose not to prioritise it?
The best (in health terms) food is also the simplest, steamed/boiled/grilled - very little hands-on time
I can put together a very tasty stir fry in 20 minutes - including making the sauce. Most of that is chopping - you can buy unadulterated frozen chopped veg which will save you 10 of those minutes
Then batch/cooking freezing - curry loves being frozen in batches.
Dear God Man! Have you tasted any of those things??? They are (Heinz) disgusting and full of dangerous chemicals, (UK beer) without any taste whatsoever! & (KFC) revolting and highly carcinogenic.
It reminds me of the Johnny Carson joke "Wendy's say they are better than Burger King. Burger King say they are better than Wendy's. Why don't they compare their stuff with actual food?"
(As usual, letters from lawyers did follow!)
To add to the above, one should always start by frying the desired spices to match the area of cuisine along with the garlic. Cardamon, mustard seeds, that kind of thing. Makes all the difference in the world how you start a curry.
Quite odd how so many people buy Heinz ketchup, considering it's disgusting.
KFC really isn't "highly carcinogenic", and (though I've not had it for years) it's certainly not revolting. If it was, people wouldn't buy it.
UK beer without "any taste whatsoever"? Really? You can't differentiate between pure water and any UK beer?
The crap that some people spout on here is quite amazing.
Back in the day the bottom half of our garden was where Dad grew vegetables. Mum worked part time and would walk or bike to the local Butchers to buy fresh meat. Were she alive today she'd be working, full or most probably part time to help pay the Mortgage and provide for 'today's' family. Not one where a Spinning Top and Orange were acceptable Xmas presents but one where Phonics, Playgroups, Tutoring, extra curricular activities, Cinema, Playstations, Mobile Phones and Fashion are must have's for many.
A long winded way of saying no they don't have the time, nor do they prioritise it!
Yes, I prefer them them to Gruel as do lots of other folk.
I once helped launch a newspaper for CAMRA whereby members would find such comments agreeable were it a keg beer and treasonable if not!
I was selling the advertising but had to attend multiple festivals with not a Lager in sight and had the misfortune of sampling some real ale 'dog's'. Try Timothy Taylors 'Ram Tam' renamed as Landlord Dark (if your not treading your own Grapes or boiling up Hops
). You may not like it but tasteless it ain't.
Trump believes charity begins at home, so do I. Sirstarmer should stop all foreign aid, repatriate all the illegals, make all UK infrastructure businesses UK privately owned only, build enough power stations of one sort or another, to support our needs without importing, make the country as independent as possible.
Now I wait for the flack!!
Now I wait for the flack!!
Thanks @DontAsk
@2JP just because you're wrong doesn't mean you need to be rude.
I've done it every day for almost every meal for a family of 5 for the last 18 years and before that for a family of 4.
I only ever buy reduced food, mainly from Waitrose or M&S. If they don't have anything reduced, I'll come back later. It means I can't / don't plan meals as I don't know what's on offer, but it works fine otherwise.
I'm autistic and have almost no sense of taste, so choosing food in a supermarket is hard; there are too many options, and they're all "the same". Buying reduced gives me a way to cut down the possibilities from too many to manageable.
The only days I don't do it are Christmas Eve (Fish n Chips), Christmas (Chinese takeaway), Boxing Day (leftovers), and Birthdays at a Restaurant.
That depends. You obviously have pieces of kitchen equipment necessary for this - saucepans, vegetable peelers/knives, potato masher, hob, baking dish, oven, fridge and freezer, freezer containers. You also have enough money to buy the ingredients to cook meals you will not eat immediately I am assuming you will not eat cottage pie on 4 consecutive days.
For those of us who can cook anything they choose if they can buy the ingredients it is not expensive to cook from scratch. For those brought up in families where nothing was ever cooked from scratch and who may have only a microwave to cook in, and are on a very low income, it is not so easy.
I'd personally separate education from 'ability' (As in money / time)
There are undoubtedly many people who are uninformed, who wouldn't know how to shop or cook a meal from raw ingredients. That's the case for education.
There are - in my view - a far smaller number who genuinely couldn't stretch to a set of used pans from a charity shop or whose life-commitments actually do prevent them from from taking time (not a huge amount of time!) to prepare meals.
I'd suggest that the biggest barrier to the first lot getting help, is the second set making excuses. Up to & Including the dismal cliche (also real) of the single mother, fag in hand, complaining that they can't afford food. (I've just looked - the price of a packet of cigs could comfortable feed a family for a day).
That’s what we do. It’s two batch meals we eat on alternate days. Different veggies to mix things up a bit.
Our weekly shop for two people is now under £50. Just need to do a bit of planning.
Mine do. Because I can cook it actual Thai style, and not western style, like restaurants do. It won't beat a Thai street vendor, but it WILL beat a Thai cook trying to cook dishes from a region Thailand that they're not from, and cooking it for a British consumer.
I don't because none of that is true.
The world has been paying for THEIR defence budget because the US banks have been creating Petro-Dollars and using those to fund their growing government deficit. Those US government bonds are what drive the world's exchange systems.
Eight-tenths of the US immigration is legal. i.e. the US government is four-fifths of the problem.
The Centre for Disease Control in 2019 concluded that 66% - two-thirds - of addiction in the US is tied to pharmaceutical drugs that come from legal prescriptions, especially opioids and benzodiazepines.
As for Trump and his tariffs - he obviously has never once in his life picked up a book on basic Economics. Try "Economics in One Lesson" (Hazlitt) Chapter 11 is all about tariffs. The man is economically illiterate and profoundly innumerate!
I'm absolutely not a conspiracy theorist, but we do have to ask whether Trump is either
On Putin's payroll
Or
A useful idiot?
Either way, with tariffs as with many other things, he is definitely under the banner of a Russian Asset
Driving a wedge between several NATO allies and setting the UK on a course of choosing between Europe or America.
As @FreddyG says, history has shown time and time again that tariffs are a counter-productive way of raising taxes and of stimulating domestic growth.
Trump builds policies in the same way that a child builds a Lego town. With the twist that Putin has - at best - too much influence
On Putin's payroll
Or
A useful idiot?
Either way, with tariffs as with many other things, he is definitely under the banner of a Russian Asset
Driving a wedge between several NATO allies and setting the UK on a course of choosing between Europe or America.
As @FreddyG says, history has shown time and time again that tariffs are a counter-productive way of raising taxes and of stimulating domestic growth.
Trump builds policies in the same way that a child builds a Lego town. With the twist that Putin has - at best - too much influence
Trump likes a certain type of lady. These were provided whilst visiting Russia. The are probably films of the trysts locked up in the Kremlin…
This may be true
In any case, it's a fact that Trump has long business associations with the KGB - he may be genuinely taken in by them, or it may be more sinister
You mean it wont taste like crap and have very little nutritional value?
What a weird assumption. At uni, I cooked once per week—fried rice or something similar—and ate it every day for a week before cooking again. It was far more efficient.
More recently, I ate exactly the same lunch every working day for nearly two years before I noticed.
How many economists predicted the crash in 2008 or any other major event?
How many economists predicted what Trump would do?
Economists are highly respected but completely useless at predicting anything. They can explain what happened a couple of years ago in ways that seem to make sense, but they can tell you nothing at all about next year.
Trump's actions make sense from his/America's POV, when you adjust your thinking to understand that, things become a lot clearer.
As a simple exercise, what physical products (not services) does the USA NEED from the UK?
If you can think of any, which of those physical products is the USA incapable of producing given a short period of time?
USA doesn't need anything from us and we don't need anything from them, they like our high end cars, precision machinery, Pharma our biggest non service exports. Our trade with the USA on goods is near enough the same which is why i don't think the tariffs between us make any sense.
OK
Luxury Cars
Precision Machinery
Pharma
Would it be better for the US if they could do all their Precision Machinery with American companies?
Same for Pharma?
Luxury cars, would a Rolls built in the USA be better for the US than a Rolls built in the UK?
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