How will Trump tariffs affect us then?
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I suspect it will trigger a bit of downward pressure on the UK economy.
I am not sure how that will impact me. Some prices will go up. I will have to adapt the business. But that is all the usual stuff as various politicians from time to time make statements.
It is possible that they might all change by Wednesday anyway, if Trumps medical team adjust his dosage.
I am not sure how that will impact me. Some prices will go up. I will have to adapt the business. But that is all the usual stuff as various politicians from time to time make statements.
It is possible that they might all change by Wednesday anyway, if Trumps medical team adjust his dosage.
I’m sure there are rules in Japan about the size of vehicles. The bigger the car the higher the tax. It’s why they all drive around in microcars.
Japanese roads are much, much narrower than American, and even British ones at that. I just got back from there, and a space about the size of an average British terrace house round the back of my hotel was a 3-space car park.
But the good thing about their tariffs on car parts? Tesla will suffer. That alone makes it worth it.
But the good thing about their tariffs on car parts? Tesla will suffer. That alone makes it worth it.
Well done getting three likes, but just how many people have actually died from this Toxic Death Chicken?
The USA is a big country with a lot of people eating a lot of chicken, so it should be easy to find plenty of cases.
"In fact, the European Food Safety Regulator examined the use of chlorine treatment and was in agreement with the USDA, that “chemical substances in poultry are unlikely to pose an immediate or acute health risk for consumers" - RSPCA
Closer to the truth, we just hide them differently.
Ah, the old partial quote trick to back up an argument...
Here's a thing. We've been chlorinating water for donkey's years. It's made water much, much safer to drink. However, about 40 years ago we realised chlorinating organic material in water could cause trihalomethanes, a precursor to some cancers. We've spent billions* removing the organic material from water to make chlorine a safer treatment. Not just here, but right across the world.
Somewhere in South America (possibly central America, I can't recall) read the reports and stopped dosing chlorine. That prompted a typhoid outbreak that killed people.
Low levels of chlorine are clearly a good thing, in the right circumstances. People aren't going to die from eating chlorinated chicken. However, we've no idea what the long term effects are.
* a very, very small part of which ended up in my pocket, which is why I know about this stuff.
Are you serious? The UK is planning to avoid Trump's tariffs by agreeing a trade deal which will have hugew effects on regulation and, in particular, food hygiene standards. You cannot separate the two.
"Working towards a trade deal" is easy blather from Starmer to UK citizens in order to justify not implementing retaliatory tariffs or, at least, buy him some time. Are you suggesting a free trade agreement? Why would Trump be bothered? I'll believe it when I see it. Maybe Trump will give a few % off to the country that acts as his biggest sycophants, then he'll probably change his mind. I hear US tariffs on narcissistic imports are currently 0%. Maybe we should have a UK Trump celebration day where we eat lots of carrot and ginger cake. It was bent bananas with the EU, now it's chlorinated chicken with the US. They are just minor media spun distractions. If you don't want to buy chlorinated chicken, don't buy it. Some people are even vegetarian, regardless of the regulations. Imagine!
That's the tip of the ice berg
These yanks also want to get leverage on the NHS and veiws it's users as potential revenue generators
What with crap cars and crap food being the only thing on offer I would rather tell them to sling their hook and live in a reduced UK economy.
Its not so much tit for tat but just tat for tat with the sub standard US quality
Higher quality food costs more money. That's because better farming practices and welfare are more expensive. It's why free range meat and animal produce is more expensive. Most people are getting poorer in this country. Banning chlorine wash water from chicken processing, of whatever percentage one decides is acceptable will not change that. It is a media spun distraction. Animal welfare, poverty, education (how to cook, the planning and the time to do so) and the cost of quality food are the bigger issues.
Not sure I agree. The problem is more to do with people not preparing and cooking their own food. Too many rely on ready meals and the like. My niece for example will only ever cook food that goes in the microwave. She will buy chopped veg rather than cut up a carrot. This is what costs more. It's very easy to eat well on a budget. Nothing to do with Trump.
Food in Japan is noticeably cheaper than here, and their standards are higher than ours. Most of their beef is imported from Australia.
And that's because their import and distribution systems are more efficient than ours - AND they generally don't eat stuff full of preservatives.
I get eight plates of good food out of one large chicken and some potatoes and veg and eight handfuls of brown rice - and each plate will cost between £2.50 and £3. So £20-£24 the lot. £32 tops. And if it takes me 15 minutes to cook one batch for four people, I am going slow.
First batch is roast chicken and roast potatoes. Flavour them, oil them, cover the bird with aluminium, turn oven to 200 and close the lid, roast for an hour. Boil and/or fly veggies, serve with knobs of butter. Do something else for 45 minutes!
Second batch is strip the bird of meat, boil the rice, fry two large onions with slices of fresh ginger and garlic and add curry powder and Tabasco or hot peppers and put that over the meat. Add pieces of fresh fruit to each plate. Mango, pear, whatever. Maybe 20 minutes work.
Proper cooking is faster, cheaper and a thousand times healthier than buying ready-made anything.
Two things schools need to teach (and do so BEFORE they teach maths and English) are cooking and budgeting.
First batch is roast chicken and roast potatoes. Flavour them, oil them, cover the bird with aluminium, turn oven to 200 and close the lid, roast for an hour. Boil and/or fly veggies, serve with knobs of butter. Do something else for 45 minutes!
Second batch is strip the bird of meat, boil the rice, fry two large onions with slices of fresh ginger and garlic and add curry powder and Tabasco or hot peppers and put that over the meat. Add pieces of fresh fruit to each plate. Mango, pear, whatever. Maybe 20 minutes work.
Proper cooking is faster, cheaper and a thousand times healthier than buying ready-made anything.
Two things schools need to teach (and do so BEFORE they teach maths and English) are cooking and budgeting.
That's what they teach in Greece and look at the state of their economy
They won't....because if people can cook cheap, healthy meals and budget well, there will be less debt and less people spending on medication, so the health grifters and high interest loan companies won't make their commission.
The NHS system is actually really good, in theory. If everyone is eating healthy, cheap, home cooked meals and they don't smoke or drink to excess, the NHS is cheaper for everyone. Healthy people don't need much looking after, until they get older, by which time, they've already paid enough in to the system to begin taking some money out for care. Various governments have sought to break it though, I wonder why?
Isn't that because of the 'higher-ups' splashing other peoples money all over the place and then running out of it?
I don't think the ordinary person on the street can cause a banking crisis, on their own.
So lower quality food costs more money then does it? Or are you saying that the price of raw food is not related to its quality? Are you insane or just argumentative? All else being equal, obviously. We are not comparing price of food in UK with price of food in Japan. We are talking about why crap food is cheap. And we are not comparing ready meals with raw chicken. Jeez. Go compare the price of the cheapest raw chicken in a supermarket with the most expensive free range one. Try them both. Go on.
Of course lower quality food costs more.
Prepared meals, microwave dinner, whatever you want to call them are made of the poorest quality non meats that you can find - Findus lasange had bits of horse in it - and not even the good bits.
Are prepared meals cheap? Nope. They're easy and fast, and people are lazy and pretend to be busy.
You can buy a whole chicken reduced in M & S for under £5, bag of carrots or other veg for under £1, couple of kilos of potatoes for a couple of £, or rice if you prefer.
Put everything in a big pan, add water and a stock cube, and boil until the meat comes off the bones.
Dont want to cook so much coz you can't store? Buy reduced chicken legs/wings, even cheaper. I've bought organic duchy chicken legs in Waitrose for under £2, and got a free coffee.
A meal for 2, plus leftovers, cooked in one pan for less than a single ready meal.
Source, other than Labour MPs?
This looks like the exact opposite
US insurance giant looking to sell its nearly 60 NHS GP practices
US medical insurance giant Centene is looking to sell its nearly 60 NHS GP practices, as part of a move to exit the UK health market.
www.pulsetoday.co.uk
True but the cars we export are high value low makers numbers so a large part of their number made, so will have a large effect on say Range Rover, Bently and RR and Morgan cars
It's quite amusing how this thread has gone from a discussion on the Orange Rapist's tariffs to an episode of Ready Steady Cook 
Except that those buyers are not especially price sensitive.
No one buying a Bentley or Rolls is shopping for the best deal.
Most people arent actually affected and so don't really have much to add.It's quite amusing how this thread has gone from a discussion on the Orange Rapist's tariffs to an episode of Ready Steady Cook
But that 10% import duty means we are more likely to look at cheaper versions from either the UK or other countries that have no UK import tax. If say you buy a jeep from the USA at £20000, the price you pay is £20K to the seller plus 10% import duties adding £2000 total £22000
The buyers of these cars will pay whatever price. They become even more of a status symbol. Nobody buys a Range Rover because it’s a practical runaround.
They cannot exit if they weren't already in!Source, other than Labour MPs?
This looks like the exact opposite
US insurance giant looking to sell its nearly 60 NHS GP practices
US medical insurance giant Centene is looking to sell its nearly 60 NHS GP practices, as part of a move to exit the UK health market.
To give your intelligence the benefit of the doubt, I will assume you intentionally misunderstood. You are comparing apples with oranges, almost literally. Do you understand how to consider the comparison of a certain characteristic? You keep everything else the same and change just that characteristic. So, if you are comparing the quality of food, you keep the type of food the same in your comparison. If it is raw chicken, you compare raw chicken from one source with raw chicken from another. You cannot qualify a statement that lower quality food costs more by comparing two completely different types of food; a comparison of a carrot with a Findus lasagne is simply invalid. Why not compare gold leaf with a loaf of bread? Both are edible. These are nonsense comparisons with regard to quality.
Perhaps I need to clarify the word, "quality"? In this case, quality would describe the overall effect to the body through ingestion. For example, toxins such as some pesticides would be an indicater of lower quality. Better taste would usually indicate higher quality. Toughness of meat, for example, lower quality. Perhaps even the presence of female hormones that promote boob growth in men might be considered an indicator of lower quality. Then we have growth hormones. A vegetable might be deemed to be of higher quality because it is fresher than an otherwise identical vegetable. You appear to have somewhat confused the word, "quality" with the concept of a healthy diet. Nutrition is an aspect but, for a quality comparison we also have to discard concepts such as obesity, for example. This has nothing to do with food quality but a lot to do with someone eating too much of certain food types. The nutritional benefit of chips to a starving man is more than to an obese man, for example. All these situational and subjective aspects need to be removed in a fair comparison of the quality of a particular type of food e.g. raw chicken (which is what kicked off this bollocks). Chickens raised on a farm with good welfare, plenty of space, low stress, good veterinary care, provided a balanced diet of the correct quantity of nutrition, that are then killed, butchered to high hygiene standards and made available to buy fresh would generally be considered to be higher quality meat than chickens suffering worse conditions.
Again, the fact is that, for the same type of food substance/type (I really do not know how to spell it out any clearer), higher quality costs more. Ask any chef or any farmer.
Yep.......... Home cooking on a budget works for very few people in the long term. Like dieting, jogging or giving up alcohol. All worthy but unrealistic causes for Homo Sapiens for whom 'finger licking good' is a weekly treat.
Try making Heinz Ketchup, Daddies Sauce etc., or re-creating the tastes of your favourite Indian Restaurant, Kebab or Fish shop. You can't, and will happily pay any Tarriffs.......
No, no, no, no. That would happen if WE impose a tax on US made cars.
Trump is charging US companies who import British cars, so the price will rise for US consumers, not British ones.
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