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[Deleted member 226268]

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...all-diesel-and-petrol-cars-and-vans-from-2040

Cheap Horse power.
But they produce Methane...don't they ? ....Global warming ?

The Government will release the plans for the alternative transportation solutions tomorrow.
Oh, wait,..... that Michael Gove is involved.

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[JEREMY HAWKE]

I'm a bit of pertolhead (civilized) and love cars but even people like me know something has to change
Electric cars are now being mass produced and 20 years to get the infrastructure on track is more than enough So I don't understand the opposition we are hearing this morning Do we want to kill people with fumes !

 

[Deleted member 59730]

And I read that Cornwall is to have a second area for Lithium prospecting.

 

[Chris Ashdown]

Many people often forget the rate of change the world is constantly changing

My father was born in 1910 and lived through the first aircraft via concorde to back to A380's all in one lifetime

Until the 60's the top speed as about 125 mph for trains now well over 200mph

When i was on HMS Gurkha in 1964 on patrol in the gulf Dubai was a mud hut village with a wall around it and curfew at knight with no western people there and similar for much of the trucial states

When i was stationed in Singapore in the 1965-66, it had not changed since the war , with both brick buildings in the city and UK bases and still wooden houses on sticks in the river and mud area's, except a new prime minister took over and look at it now

Forties oil platforms built in mid 70's now all gone

1980's super computers now replaced by desktops.

And they think it will take 20 years or so for the death of petrol and diesel cars and lorries, I would say give it five to eight years

 

[sirearl]

Oh well it's one way of selling more cars.
I do wonder how they intend to get the lost fuel duty from us.

 

[Deleted member 59730]

I do wonder how they intend to get the lost fuel duty from us.

Road charging.

 

[UKSBD]

Oh well it's one way of selling more cars.
I do wonder how they intend to get the lost fuel duty from us.

Reduced lifespan of new cars - Resulting in more new car sales - Resulting in more VAT

 

[Mr D]

Add the fuel duty to all electricity.

22 years to make changes?

22 years ago my car was ok and I used a road map or a-z.
22 years ago I had a nice PC for 1500 pounds.
22 years ago I could watch a movie on a VHS player.


Think of the changes 22 years saw.
Now a basic mobile phone has more memory and greater speed than that PC.
We have Satnav systems pretty cheap and driverless cars are being tried.
We stream a film or series to watch as we travel, at home or on breaks.

22 years is probably doable for switching most to electric. How many vehicles we currently have on the roads over 22 years old?
That number is the margin to concentrate on.

 

[Chris Rickard]

And I read that Cornwall is to have a second area for Lithium prospecting.

As a resident of Cornwall I'm really interested in this - would LOVE to get involved in the process somehow but it's a hopeful thing to me that we have something that will be of value outside of the UK or have I read too much into the local press excitement about it?

 

[Paul Norman]

I'm a bit of pertolhead (civilized) and love cars but even people like me know something has to change
Electric cars are now being mass produced and 20 years to get the infrastructure on track is more than enough So I don't understand the opposition we are hearing this morning Do we want to kill people with fumes !

This is pretty much where I am on this. I love my internal combustion engines, and have owned a ridiculous number of cars.

But I am not going to pretend nothing will change. It will. I don't know exactly what, yet, but I suspect I will very few more ICR powered cars.

 

[Chris Ashdown]

I am sure in the sixties they told us that small personal helicopters would be flying us everywhere before the end of the century

 

[Deleted member 59730]

I am sure in the sixties they told us that small personal helicopters would be flying us everywhere before the end of the century

You remember correctly. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wallis

I photographed his autogiro in his back garden with a model "housewife" supposedly showing how we would do the shopping in the future.

 

[Mr D]

I am sure in the sixties they told us that small personal helicopters would be flying us everywhere before the end of the century

In an age of drones who needs helicopters?