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Sharples86

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Advice needed please!

My company has recently advised the need to reduce the number of staff in my location and there will be 30 redundancies, therefore a 30 day consultation period will begin imminently.

However, all 30 roles have recently been recruited for in another location and all roles identical to those being made redundant. At no point prior to this recruitment taking place were these roles offered to those now being made redundant and the company claims to have ‘not known’ that the situation would arise. As these roles are now filled, they cannot be offered to those who will now lose their jobs...

Is this a genuine redundancy situation?
 
It's quite possible the company is cost cutting by replacing an expensive site with a new cheaper one with less liability.

But if that's what they need to do to survive profitably, then all your positions couldn't have been maintained anyway. One way or another the outcome would probably have been the same.
 
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does the company do contract work for other organisations or businesses/

while I can think of at least a couple of instances where staff can be taken on then soon after a bunch of other people have been made redundant, its not outside the realm of possibility that someone has messed up big time and you staff pay the price.
 
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Yes in understand the need for making a profit - but my question is if the process that has been followed qualifies as a legal and genuine redundancy situation. Not to mention other aspects of the process that have not been followed so far...
 
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Sharples86 said:
Yes in understand the need for making a profit - but my question is if the process that has been followed qualifies as a legal and genuine redundancy situation. Not to mention other aspects of the process that have not been followed so far...
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do you have a union/
 
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Unfortunately in business you sometimes have to do things you'd rather not have to do.

I dare say they have been through all the options and associated risks, and there you are.

Trying to force the company to change plans at this point is unlikely to be fruitful, but give it a go and see, what's the worst that could happen?
 
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It’s more about having a case for unfair dismissal - we have already accepted that the jobs are gone/going. Thanks is for your help
 
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Sharples86 not a good place to be in, I know from experience and can be a very stressful time especially if this just came out of nowhere. There are lots of rules around redundancy and you would like to think that your current employer is playing it fair.

Over 20 redundancies in a company comes I believe with its own set of rules, as this is classed as 'collective redundancies' it might be worth checking out the ACAS website this is full of very useful information on the subject from both the side of the employee and employer.

Hope everything works out for you best of luck.

https://beta.acas.org.uk/your-rights-during-redundancy/how-your-employer-must-consult-you
 
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What are the timescales involved? How far away is the other location? Are you all covered by UK employment law?
 
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