I have an App Idea. What to do next?

[Ginger Hobo]

Hi there, I'm new to this website, so hello all ??
Long story short I have an idea for an app that I'd like to put into fruition. It revolves around mental health and has the potential to help millions of people.
I'm trying to network with like minded people (people with app ideas) to figure out what steps to take to create the app and just generally 'rub shoulders' with other app making wannabee's and app designers/developers who are currently going through the app making process.

I'd also like advice on gaining interest from investors for the app.
If anyone has any advice to give me that would be great. Thank you ?

 

[japancool]

I'd also like advice on gaining interest from investors for the app.

Get something up and running first. Then you can talk about investors. At the moment, all you have is an idea - i.e. nothing.

 

[Ginger Hobo]

Get something up and running first. Then you can talk about investors. At the moment, all you have is an idea - i.e. nothing.

An idea - i.e. something. It depends on how you look at it. I'm a glass half full kind of person. But I understand everyone isn't ? Thanks for the input @japancool

 

[Mark T Jones]

An idea - i.e. something. It depends on how you look at it. I'm a glass half full kind of person. But I understand everyone isn't ? Thanks for the input @japancool

Sadly your glass contains only a few drops

Investors invest in people and businesses - in your case, there might be social investors who will invest in a proven concept if its not for profits

Are you planning to make money from it? If so uou either need to get an MVP, then work on a solid marketing plan, or simply to crack on with the marketing plan

 

[Ginger Hobo]

Sadly your glass contains only a few drops

Investors invest in people and businesses - in your case, there might be social investors who will invest in a proven concept if its not for profits

Are you planning to make money from it? If so uou either need to get an MVP, then work on a solid marketing plan, or simply to crack on with the marketing plan

Hi Mark, thank you for your reply. Yes, in a nutshell my idea is to get an MVP together, a good 'sales pitch' and then eventually approach investors. My initial post is fairly vague, I've done a fair bit of research. I'm just looking for a community of people in the same boat as me. People with an app idea who wants to take it out to the world. I'm struggling to find such people, hence me being here.

 

[Mark T Jones]

Hi Mark, thank you for your reply. Yes, in a nutshell my idea is to get an MVP together, a good 'sales pitch' and then eventually approach investors. My initial post is fairly vague, I've done a fair bit of research. I'm just looking for a community of people in the same boat as me. People with an app idea who wants to take it out to the world. I'm struggling to find such people, hence me being here.

You won't struggle to find people with an app idea. There are millions of them.

You will struggle to find people who know how to make it financially viable- they are gold dust and they are the ones who investors are looking for

Sorry to start on a downer, but the whole 'invest in my idea ' thing is done to death on here

 

[Ginger Hobo]

You won't struggle to find people with an app idea. There are millions of them.

You will struggle to find people who know how to make it financially viable- they are gold dust and they are the ones who investors are looking for

Sorry to start on a downer, but the whole 'invest in my idea ' thing is done to death on here.

My days, I've only just joined and already I'm noticing everyone seems so upbeat on here ? Yes millions of people have app ideas, I'm very aware of that. But no one has my idea, and that is gold dust as you say. And yes it's a profitable app. What I do with it next, well, that's why I'm here. But maybe I'm in the wrong place for helpful advice. Keep your eye out for the best mental health app in the world. Coming soon ??

 

[fisicx]

There are loads of freelancers who can help build the MVP. They won’t be interested in your idea, all they want is the money. Depending on the complexity the cost could range from a few hundred to thousands. Once you have something you can begin marketing to see if there is interest in your app. If so you can put together a business plan and approach investors.

You need to invest cash to get this idea off the ground. It’s no different to any other business proposition. The path you take is same as if you were making and selling spoons.

 

[Mark T Jones]

My days, I've only just joined and already I'm noticing everyone seems so upbeat on here ? Yes millions of people have app ideas, I'm very aware of that. But no one has my idea, and that is gold dust as you say. And yes it's a profitable app. What I do with it next, well, that's why I'm here. But maybe I'm in the wrong place for helpful advice. Keep your eye out for the best mental health app in the world. Coming soon ??

I clearly and specifically didn't say an idea was gold dust. Its worth pennies.

What I did say was that you need to work out the business behind your app.

If tough love isn't your thing, I'll happily point you to brokers who will agree with you and tell you exactly what you want to hear.

Right up to the point where they have banked the fees

 

[Ginger Hobo]

I clearly and specifically didn't say an idea was gold dust. Its worth pennies.

What I did say was that you need to work out the business behind your app.

If tough love isn't your thing, I'll happily point you to brokers who will agree with you and tell you exactly what you want to hear.

Right up to the point where they have banked the fees

Mark, I've worked out the business behind my app. I've got lots of ways and ideas to make it a paid app. I've got a business idea. I haven't just come here willy nilly as you seem to think I have. I'm a novice yes but I'm not stupid. I came here to meet positive, like minded people who want to thrive and bounce off each other with ideas and suggestions. I didn't come here for what seems to be constant negativity. I appreciate your honesty. Have a great day.

 

[Ginger Hobo]

There are loads of freelancers who can help build the MVP. They won’t be interested in your idea, all they want is the money. Depending on the complexity the cost could range from a few hundred to thousands. Once you have something you can begin marketing to see if there is interest in your app. If so you can put together a business plan and approach investors.

You need to invest cash to get this idea off the ground. It’s no different to any other business proposition. The path you take is same as if you were making and selling spoons.

Hi @fisicx . Thanks for your reply. Yes, what you are saying is what I'm doing. I'm currently in the process of creating the wireframe and I'm going to try and create a mock (mvp) of my app myself in a no code program. Or I'll head over to Fiverr or something and pay someone to do it. Then yes, I'll start looking for investors etc. Do you know of any decent forums where I can meet people like myself who are going through the process of building an app?

 

[fisicx]

I do a lot of development work (not apps) for clients and it’s an isolated process. People don’t like sharing their ideas online so only use forums and support sites for specific issues.

For example using stackoverflow for technical questions or UKBF for a marketing query.

I don’t think anyone here is being overly negative. It’s just that marketing and monetising an app is very difficult. Mainly because it’s so easy for overseas developers to churn them out by the thousand. I had one project where an app developer paid me for the source code and launched around 50 versions as apps within a week.

 

[IanSuth]

Hi @fisicx . Thanks for your reply. Yes, what you are saying is what I'm doing. I'm currently in the process of creating the wireframe and I'm going to try and create a mock (mvp) of my app myself in a no code program. Or I'll head over to Fiverr or something and pay someone to do it. Then yes, I'll start looking for investors etc. Do you know of any decent forums where I can meet people like myself who are going through the process of building an app?

Can i just give a warning (from experience), if you get involved with a software house for building the actual app be very very very careful in how you agree a spec and be dead sure they are not going to take something else they have written and try and morph it into your product (to save themselves money and basically doing what fisicx wrote as i was typing the original version of this) whether it will fit or not. Have stage payments with clearly defined deliverables to trigger each one.

Don't use anyone without references and by that i mean actually talk to people with a working monetarised product written by tat team

 

[pentel]

I'm currently in the process of creating the wireframe and I'm going to try and create a mock (mvp) of my app myself in a no code program. Or I'll head over to Fiverr or something and pay someone to do it.

Once you have done this you will be further along the track than more than 99% of people who have an idea for an app.

The usual first poster on this forum with an app idea come on with just an idea and a "what do i do next" question without any idea at all. We have seen these dreamers so many times.

It does sound like you are a LOT more proactive than most. The people on this forum represent a good cross section of business owners and respond best to well thought out questions.

Unfortunately I cant point you in the right direction as this is not my area, but don't be despondent at the replies so far, there are a lot of helpful people on this forum, some of them can be rather direct so a thick skin is advised.

 

[Clinton]

I'm a novice yes but I'm not stupid.

Hmm, why do you think people here have come to the conclusion they reached?

Because they are all negative and like taking newbies down?

I hovered over this thread's description on the New Threads listing, I saw the words mental health and my immediate thought was that I'd like to be part of that - either as an investor or as a partner (as I happen to have a lot of experience dealing with mental health bodies, have many friends in psychiatry and know a bit about owning / building tech businesses).

Then I read the tread which started with your question about getting investors and continued with you laughing at sound suggestions you were given. I formed an opinion about you and decided that you are so clueless, so stubborn, so full of yourself that it would be madness to partner with you no matter how brilliant the idea you have.

But, good luck.

 

[Paul Kelly ICHYB]

I've worked out the business behind my app

So have you written a business plan?

 

[Ginger Hobo]

Can i just give a warning (from experience), if you get involved with a software house for building the actual app be very very very careful in how you agree a spec and be dead sure they are not going to take something else they have written and try and morph it into your product (to save themselves money and basically doing what fisicx wrote as i was typing the original version of this) whether it will fit or not. Have stage payments with clearly defined deliverables to trigger each one.

Don't use anyone without references and by that i mean actually talk to people with a working monetarised product written by tat team

Thank you for the helpful advice Ian, much appreciated ?

 

[JamaC]

Your opening message was the cause for the responses you received.

If you stated everything from the start the responses would have been very different.

You did not state you had a business plan, financial projections and you are planning to get the app made first.

The are plenty of people who come on this forum with an "idea" which most of the time is just a moment of excitement.

Getting defensive instead of asking further questions, is a sign you will struggle with investors or partners. Those with more knowledge than you will tell you things you don't want to hear, which is often a lesson not negative

 

[Ginger Hobo]

Hmm, why do you think people here have come to the conclusion they reached?

Because they are all negative and like taking newbies down?

I hovered over this thread's description on the New Threads listing, I saw the words mental health and my immediate thought was that I'd like to be part of that - either as an investor or as a partner (as I happen to have a lot of experience dealing with mental health bodies, have many friends in psychiatry and know a bit about owning / building tech businesses).

Then I read the tread which started with your question about getting investors and continued with you laughing at sound suggestions you were given. I formed an opinion about you and decided that you are so clueless, so stubborn, so full of yourself that it would be madness to partner with you no matter how brilliant the idea you have.

But, good luck.

Hi Clinton. I'm sorry that you've gotten the wrong impression of me, and I'm telling you that with confidence. Unfortunately you've mistaken my 'clueless, stubborn, full of myself' attitude for confidence and wisdom. I'm VERY confident that I have a great product and one that I know I'll bring into the world at some point in the future and also one that will be financially viable. I'm quitting my job next month to fully concentrate on this project, that's how seriously I'm taking it because I truly believe this app could help millions of people worldwide with their mental health/depression. I'm in the care sector myself, which is how I came up with the brainstorm.

So yes, when someone tells me that "the whole 'invest in my idea ' thing is done to death on here", that didn't really bond well with me. Especially as he has NO idea of the work that I've already done, the ideas I have and the people I've already talked to about this app, which has been 100% positive I may add.

Without blowing my own trumpet I'm a down to earth care giver with a great idea (and an idea that's already in progress) who is more than happy to take all forms of criticism providing it's done in a correct manner and I'm definitely not here to argue....quite the opposite infact. My apologies if I've come across as stubborn etc.

As for you wanting to invest or become a partner, that's something I'm looking and maybe I've missed a boat here but I guess that's a learning curve for me. Please feel free to get in touch if you change your mind. Have a great day

 

[Ginger Hobo]

Your opening message was the cause for the responses you received.

If you stated everything from the start the responses would have been very different.

You did not state you had a business plan, financial projections and you are planning to get the app made first.

The are plenty of people who come on this forum with an "idea" which most of the time is just a moment of excitement.

Getting defensive instead of asking further questions, is a sign you will struggle with investors or partners. Those with more knowledge than you will tell you things you don't want to hear, which is often a lesson not negative

Hi @JamaC . Yes I agree I could have been more detailed with my initial thread. I also think that a certain person could have asked more questions instead of presuming they knew what stage I was at though. I'm sure there are many people out there with 'a great app idea' but there are also some people that are serious about taking their app to the next stage, and to the world eventually. Thanks for the sound advice though, much appreciated.

 

[Clinton]

I generally go with my first impressions with respect investing in someone, but given your change of tack, I'll at least provide some advice in the thread.

Nobody gives a sh*t about your idea. You may be all excited about it but investors will not be. They will be more interested in whether you have the skills, the dedication, the ability to generate money and profit from this idea. It's not the brilliance of the idea that matters to them (though I appreciate the person who had the idea usually thinks no end of his own genius!).

I'd be happy to invest in a completely crap idea if I was convinced the person behind the idea had the ability and motivation to make it work. There are a lot of crap ideas out there that have become enormously successful.

Your first task is convincing investors about YOU, not about the business idea.

You're on the right track when you say you're giving up work to focus on this. That plays well with investors - they see it as a demonstration of dedication and motivation to make the idea work.

You will need to convince them of one other thing.

No, no, it's not the freaking brilliance of your idea!

It's that you have the business nous to make it work.

So yes, when someone tells me that "the whole 'invest in my idea ' thing is done to death on here", that didn't really bond well with me. Especially as he has NO idea of the work that I've already done...

How would they know how much work you've invested? If you haven't taken the time and trouble to explain what you've done, why are you surprised when people think you're just the average lazy git who's full of himself because he's just sh*t a turd with an unsual shape that got him all excited? It's not other people's job to tease information out of you. It's YOUR job to present adequate information in the first go.

...the people I've already talked to about this app, which has been 100% positive I may add.

Then go and talk to some different people! You seem too inclined to lean towards people who agree with you / praise you / think you're the dog's bollxcks.

 

[Ginger Hobo]

So have you written a business plan?

To an extent, yes.

 

[Mark T Jones]

My absolute final post on this thread - really aimed at visitors who are inquisitive about getting investment.

1. Investors have very limited interest in the 'idea' or product. You can safely assume that it is limited to: Is it fit for purpose (or can it easily be made so)? and is there a researched, accessible and lucrative market?
2. Time and money spent perfecting the product is often wasted - particularly for a soft product like an app. Investors often have access to their own teams who they will happily throw at this - sometimes even when you have spent £1 million and 2 years 'perfecting' it.
3. After the 5% product idea pitch, 95% is about giving investors insight to your researched marketing plan; your business plan and, crucially, showing that you are the right person to deliver it.
4. If you assure investors that you have a plan, then return to telling them about your idea, they will automatically assume that you don't have a plan.
5. Finally; a question that often comes up - ideas theft. If you are really worried about investors stealing your idea, you have almost certainly got your pitch wrong. Referring to the above - your role in front of an investor is to demonstrate that you are the right person to deliver the return/results they are seeking.

That's all from me.

 

[Mark T Jones]

I generally go with my first impressions with respect investing in someone, but given your change of tack, I'll at least provide some advice in the thread.

Nobody gives a sh*t about your idea. You may be all excited about it but investors will not be. They will be more interested in whether you have the skills, the dedication, the ability to generate money and profit from this idea. It's not the brilliance of the idea that matters to them (though I appreciate the person who had the idea usually thinks no end of his own genius!).

I'd be happy to invest in a completely crap idea if I was convinced the person behind the idea had the ability and motivation to make it work. There are a lot of crap ideas out there that have become enormously successful.

Your first task is convincing investors about YOU, not about the business idea.

You're on the right track when you say you're giving up work to focus on this. That plays well with investors - they see it as a demonstration of dedication and motivation to make the idea work.

You will need to convince them of one other thing.

No, no, it's not the freaking brilliance of your idea!

It's that you have the business nous to make it work.


How would they know how much work you've invested? If you haven't taken the time and trouble to explain what you've done, why are you surprised when people think you're just the average lazy git who's full of himself because he's just sh*t a turd with an unsual shape that got him all excited? It's not other people's job to tease information out of you. It's YOUR job to present adequate information in the first go.



Then go and talk to some different people! You seem too inclined to lean towards people who agree with you / praise you / think you're the dog's bollxcks.

Overlapped!

 

[Ginger Hobo]

I generally go with my first impressions with respect investing in someone, but given your change of tack, I'll at least provide some advice in the thread.

Nobody gives a sh*t about your idea. You may be all excited about it but investors will not be. They will be more interested in whether you have the skills, the dedication, the ability to generate money and profit from this idea. It's not the brilliance of the idea that matters to them (though I appreciate the person who had the idea usually thinks no end of his own genius!).

I'd be happy to invest in a completely crap idea if I was convinced the person behind the idea had the ability and motivation to make it work. There are a lot of crap ideas out there that have become enormously successful.

Your first task is convincing investors about YOU, not about the business idea.

You're on the right track when you say you're giving up work to focus on this. That plays well with investors - they see it as a demonstration of dedication and motivation to make the idea work.

You will need to convince them of one other thing.

No, no, it's not the freaking brilliance of your idea!

It's that you have the business nous to make it work.


How would they know how much work you've invested? If you haven't taken the time and trouble to explain what you've done, why are you surprised when people think you're just the average lazy git who's full of himself because he's just sh*t a turd with an unsual shape that got him all excited? It's not other people's job to tease information out of you. It's YOUR job to present adequate information in the first go.



Then go and talk to some different people! You seem too inclined to lean towards people who agree with you / praise you / think you're the dog's bollxcks.

Thank you for taking the time to write such a lengthy reply, much appreciated. Again, the reason I'm here is to gain information /advice /knowledge in order to help me get to where I want to get to.
You've clearly gotten the wrong idea of me and there's nothing I can do about that, apart from tell you that you are wrong.
The lesson I've learnt from this? To be more descriptive with my threads. I never use forums to be honest. Like someone else said, had I have done that the conversation would have gone in a different direction.

Anyway, nevermind. I'll leave our conversation with this... Keep your eyes peeled for an app with the initials 'LB'. You may just regret your decision not to invest. Probably not but you might ?

Have a great day Clinton. Again, sorry for coming across in a different manner. Peace ✌?

 

[IanSuth]

Then go and talk to some different people! You seem too inclined to lean towards people who agree with you / praise you / think you're the dog's bollxcks.

Can i just say this last bit is actually really important.

Find some people you trust who actually will stand up and say "no because xyz" then if you can overcome their objections or engineer in a work around you will be in a better place going forward.

 

[Ginger Hobo]

Can i just say this last bit is actually really important.

Find some people you trust who actually will stand up and say "no because xyz" then if you can overcome their objections or engineer in a work around you will be in a better place going forward.

Hi Ian, I definitely am in that position. I have a friend who does exactly that. She tells me exactly how it is and I appreciate that in a person. I really do. I just find some people go about expressing their thoughts in a rather rude manner. No names mentioned.

 

[MBE2017]

Hi Ian, I definitely am in that position. I have a friend who does exactly that. She tells me exactly how it is and I appreciate that in a person. I really do. I just find some people go about expressing their thoughts in a rather rude manner. No names mentioned.

OP,

You need to accept the advice freely given, the honest replies based on what you posted, move on, accept you made a bad impression and MOVE ON.

Your little dig about how some people have expressed their thoughts in a rather rude manner says everything about YOUR character, not theirs. All I see is decent honest replies, now stop being so butt hurt, grow up, put on your big boy trousers, and act like an adult.

 

[Ginger Hobo]

My absolute final post on this thread - really aimed at visitors who are inquisitive about getting investment.

1. Investors have very limited interest in the 'idea' or product. You can safely assume that it is limited to: Is it fit for purpose (or can it easily be made so)? and is there a researched, accessible and lucrative market?
2. Time and money spent perfecting the product is often wasted - particularly for a soft product like an app. Investors often have access to their own teams who they will happily throw at this - sometimes even when you have spent £1 million and 2 years 'perfecting' it.
3. After the 5% product idea pitch, 95% is about giving investors insight to your researched marketing plan; your business plan and, crucially, showing that you are the right person to deliver it.
4. If you assure investors that you have a plan, then return to telling them about your idea, they will automatically assume that you don't have a plan.
5. Finally; a question that often comes up - ideas theft. If you are really worried about investors stealing your idea, you have almost certainly got your pitch wrong. Referring to the above - your role in front of an investor is to demonstrate that you are the right person to deliver the return/results they are seeking.

That's all from me.

You see, if you'd have started the chat with this post instead of coming across as an 'I know best' kind of character, I think we might have gotten off on the right for Mark. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

 

[Clinton]

Wow, you're new to the forum and you start by sh*tting on a long standing member who has nearly 10K posts and thousands of "thank yous"!

In his posts he didn't come across to me as someone who knows "best" but as someone who knows a darn sight more than you do!

Given your attitude, I'm out of this thread. You don't deserve to be helped!

 

[Ginger Hobo]

Wow, you're new to the forum and you start by sh*tting on a long standing member who has nearly 10K posts and thousands of "thank yous"!

In his posts he didn't come across to me as someone who knows "best" but as someone who knows a darn sight more than you do!

Given your attitude, I'm out of this thread. You don't deserve to be helped!

I haven't 'shit' on anyone my friend. My lord you have a potty mouth. Thanks for showing me your true colors Clinton, I'm sure glad I didn't get the opportunity to invest with you. I have heard the term 'choose your investors wisely'. And that I've had a lesson in today. Thanks for the lesson ??

 

[Ginger Hobo]

OP,

You need to accept the advice freely given, the honest replies based on what you posted, move on, accept you made a bad impression and MOVE ON.

Your little dig about how some people have expressed their thoughts in a rather rude manner says everything about YOUR character, not theirs. All I see is decent honest replies, now stop being so butt hurt, grow up, put on your big boy trousers, and act like an adult.

OP,

You need to accept the advice freely given, the honest replies based on what you posted, move on, accept you made a bad impression and MOVE ON.

Your little dig about how some people have expressed their thoughts in a rather rude manner says everything about YOUR character, not theirs. All I see is decent honest replies, now stop being so butt hurt, grow up, put on your big boy trousers, and act like an adult.

Who invited you to the party rude boy? Why do people like you think you can talk down to other folk? Jog on...

 

[Mark T Jones]

You see, if you'd have started the chat with this post instead of coming across as an 'I know best' kind of character, I think we might have gotten off on the right for Mark. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Note to self

Remember when dealing with children:

1. Only tell them what they want to hear
2. Only say it in the way they like to hear it.

See you on Dragon's Den??

 

[Ginger Hobo]

Note to self

Remember when dealing with children:

1. Only tell them what they want to hear
2. Only say it in the way they like to hear it.

See you on Dragon's Den??

Who's the one acting like a child now ? Anyway, I thought you said the post before this was your last? Goodbye ???

 

[BubbaWY]

I wish you all the best GH and I hope your online presence is not a fair reflection of who you really are.

 

[Ginger Hobo]

I wish you all the best GH and I hope your online presence is not a fair reflection of who you really are.

I think you need to look at my first initial post on this thread and see how innocent it is. I'm genuinely here for help/guidance and advice. And then look at where certain people took the conversation. In a totally different direction. I don't take to rudeness kindly unfortunately. If that's a downfall then so be it. Take care Bubba.

 

[MBE2017]

“Who invited you to the party rude boy? Why do people like you think you can talk down to other folk? Jog on...”. Ginger Hobo

I don’t need an invite, this is a public forum for business people.

People like me? Did the nasty man say hurty words? Lol.

If you want to go into business you need to be able to hear a few truths every now and then. You have been given fair decent advice at your request. Because your first post left out much detail you moan regarding the answers, you moan at decent advice, you just moan and whinge.

My two year olds made less of things than yourself, you need to grow up. If you only want to hear nice advice agreeing with what you say, I’m sure you have your support network with comfort blanket in place already.

Why was I not surprised it was a friend you are getting to validate your app? You don’t get honest reviews from friends, you need to talk to prospective clients, but of course, they might criticise your app, and you wouldn’t want that.

 

[Ginger Hobo]

“Who invited you to the party rude boy? Why do people like you think you can talk down to other folk? Jog on...”. Ginger Hobo

I don’t need an invite, this is a public forum for business people.

People like me? Did the nasty man say hurty words? Lol.

If you want to go into business you need to be able to hear a few truths every now and then. You have been given fair decent advice at your request. Because your first post left out much detail you moan regarding the answers, you moan at decent advice, you just moan and whinge.

My two year olds made less of things than yourself, you need to grow up. If you only want to hear nice advice agreeing with what you say, I’m sure you have your support network with comfort blanket in place already.

Why was I not surprised it was a friend you are getting to validate your app? You don’t get honest reviews from friends, you need to talk to prospective clients, but of course, they might criticise your app, and you wouldn’t want that.

You have just proven that you haven't even read some of the comments properly ? I take honest criticism very well thanks, I actually thrive off honesty. Too bad some people can't help but be rude, even if they are trying to help. I guess some people just don't have people/communication skills. You are proving to be one of those. Gently close the door behind you please. Byeeee ??

 

[fisicx]

Everyone, please be nice. All @Ginger Hobo asked for was advice on the process and places where they could meet like minded people. What they didn’t ask for was a review of their business or chances of success.

It seems like they have a plan and once the MVP is in place and published they can assess viability and then investment.

I wish you luck with your venture @Ginger Hobo.

 

[Ginger Hobo]

Everyone, please be nice. All @Ginger Hobo asked for was advice on the process and places where they could meet like minded people. What they didn’t ask for was a review of their business or chances of success.

It seems like they have a plan and once the MVP is in place and published they can assess viability and then investment.

I wish you luck with your venture @Ginger Hobo.

Thank you @fisicx . You've hit the nail on the head as we would say. Someone totally changed the subject and then all hell broke loose and others jumped on the band wagon. Like you say, I was solely seeking advice on the process and places where I could meet like minded people. And yes, what I didn’t ask for was a review of my business or chances of success.
I'm glad someone has noticed this. Maybe I should delete this thread and try and attract the right kind of people? But I'm glad I met you Fisicx. One good thing came out of this ? And thank you for your kind wishes! May I ask what it is you do?