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Marky65

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Hi

I have been discussing with a website designer about creating a site for my accountancy services business and I have been quoted just under £500 for the following:
Create site template & graphics plus 9 pages of content​
12 months Managed Web Hosting​
12 months Content Management Service​
Set up email and Google analytics web statistics

My question is, do you think this is a fair price to be charged for this service.

I am sorry but I am not looking for other businesses to contact me with quotes for their web design services.

Thanks for your help

Regards

Mark

 

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One point that sticks out to me is 12months Content Management Service.

What does this mean?

The benefit of a content management system is you can change the content yourself and whenever you want without having to pay. If they are going to charge you each year to us ethe service then probably best to check how much.


For the price, £500 can be cheap or expensive, it depends on the site they produce. Have you seen others in their portfolio?
 
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£500 seems an ok-ish price, maybe slightly on the high side. But if the quality is superb then you are probably paying for that. Personally i dont expect accountancy firms to have an all singing all dancing site, which is why i think the price might be on the high side.

If you would like me to get you a much cheaper quote please let me know. Otherwise i wish you all the best and hope your happy with your new website
 
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My question would be about the rankings he has achieved locally for others. A website is just like a leaflet. If the leaflet is pinned to the top of a lamppost where no-one can see it, then it is a waste of time.

Sounds fair though otherwise. And if there is a content management system available, then make sure you cans et the page titles and descriptions yourself. Beyopnd that all should be well. If you can't do this, then it is an issue for ranking.
 
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wood1e2

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Hi

I have been discussing with a website designer about creating a site for my accountancy services business and I have been quoted just under £500 for the following:
Create site template & graphics plus 9 pages of content
12 months Managed Web Hosting
12 months Content Management Service

Set up email and Google analytics web statistics

My question is, do you think this is a fair price to be charged for this service.

I am sorry but I am not looking for other businesses to contact me with quotes for their web design services.

Thanks for your help

Regards

Mark


There is a fair amount of work involved, whether good or bad. I don't see £500 expensive, well unless it was for a pile of doo doo... :)

£40pa to manage content?

How much would you charge pa to change or make adjustments to a firms book of accounts?

That's how cheap or expensive it is.
 
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Hi

I have been discussing with a website designer about creating a site for my accountancy services business and I have been quoted just under £500 for the following:
Create site template & graphics plus 9 pages of content
12 months Managed Web Hosting
12 months Content Management Service

Set up email and Google analytics web statistics

My question is, do you think this is a fair price to be charged for this service.

I am sorry but I am not looking for other businesses to contact me with quotes for their web design services.

Thanks for your help

Regards

Mark

sounds fair price , :)
 
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Mark - have you looked at/considered some of the suppliers of specilialist accountants websites as well, that provide content and newsletters etc? Some will come in at very close to your £500.
 
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Mark - have you looked at/considered some of the suppliers of specilialist accountants websites as well, that provide content and newsletters etc? Some will come in at very close to your £500.

I was going to say the same thing. Totally unsure on prices but they specialise specifically in websites for accountants. They are called 'Practice Web' and are owned by Sift (the co that owns this forum).

Well worth getting a quote, hope it helps

charlie
 
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MyAccountantOnline

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I was going to say the same thing. Totally unsure on prices but they specialise specifically in websites for accountants. They are called 'Practice Web' and are owned by Sift (the co that owns this forum).

Well worth getting a quote, hope it helps

charlie


They are very good - they are one of the more expensive ones.

Websmiths is very good, pricing is much more competitive.

Mercia/Total Solutions is another one - http://www.yourfirmonline.co.uk/
 
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MyAccountantOnline

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I don't see a specilist firm offering anything that a website design/development company can't offer!!!

I would have to disagree with you on that - they offer a huge amount of content and add-ons which designers with no accounting background could ever offer, or certainly without incurring huge additional costs.

Just take a look at some of the resources which someone such as Total Solutions offer as an example.
 
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Thats all very interesting, so accounting firms are willing to pay £99 per month for a website? Is that plus £35 per month for the content? Would that be all 60 factsheets?

Is this their bespoke solution? or Template solution?

Maybe this is a market to look at?


If you want to guage how many accountants use Total Solution just pick an area at random and do a search under accountants - you will be astonded.

I have no idea of the number of accountants that use Total solution (taking just one of the major suppliers of accountants websites) but you will soon appreciate just what a major player they are in the market by a few simple searches.

You'd have to check what you get for the monthly fee.
 
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If you want to guage how many accountants use Total Solution just pick an area at random and do a search under accountants - you will be astonded.

I have no idea of the number of accountants that use Total solution (taking just one of the major suppliers of accountants websites) but you will soon appreciate just what a major player they are in the market by a few simple searches.

You'd have to check what you get for the monthly fee.

I only found one...but still one! :)
 
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My question is, do you think this is a fair price to be charged for this service.
The devil is in the detail, and I'm sure you would say something similar if someone here was asking about an accountancy quote and listed very briefly what was being offered by a potential supplier.

For instance, 9 pages of content might sound good, but it is no good if it has just been copied from someone else's website, it could land you in trouble facing a copyright infringement lawsuit.
I have seen his portfolio and to me it looks ok.
That's a good start in any due diligence buyer beware process, but it also worth contacting some similar clients in that portfolio, to see if they are happy with the service, not just in the first year but in subsequent years too.

With websites I would also say that not all that glitters is gold, so don't just go by visuals or a screenshot in a portfolio, have a look at how the websites load and run, and how they perform in google searches.
suppliers of specilialist accountants websites as well, that provide content and newsletters etc? Some will come in at very close to your £500.
This is definitely an option, but it is worth checking whether other accountants in your area are using the same service, since you might end up with near identical websites.

These accountancy specific sites with ready-made content might also suffer from duplicate content penalties on google, which might mean that you have little chance of ranking well in google even for local searches. My accountant client looked into but decided against these accountant specific web services because they wanted their site to be different from other accountant's sites in their area, and avoiding these services certainly helped them with their targeted google rankings (currently 1st for accountant northampton, 3rd for accountants northampton, etc).

But there are plenty of accountants who use these specialist accountant website services, perhaps these accountants are established businesses who aren't too worried about getting new clients via google, perhaps they get their clients in other non-internet marketing ways or via adwords.

There are also quite a few accountants who use the free website builder service from Microsoft Office Live, you can see some of them on google via this google search. (for anyone thinking about office live, I recommend buying a .co.uk domain from an established registrar like 123-reg, then pointing its nameserver at office live)
 
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My question would be about the rankings he has achieved locally for others. A website is just like a leaflet. If the leaflet is pinned to the top of a lamppost where no-one can see it, then it is a waste of time.

I normally offer the analogy that a website is like a shop and if nobody knows where the shop is then no people will visit but I like the leaflet comparison and may use that next time I have an initial client meeting
 
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My question would be about the rankings he has achieved locally for others. A website is just like a leaflet. If the leaflet is pinned to the top of a lamppost where no-one can see it, then it is a waste of time.
I normally offer the analogy that a website is like a shop and if nobody knows where the shop is then no people will visit but I like the leaflet comparison and may use that next time I have an initial client meeting
And there's always the better mousetrap fallacy (i.e. market awareness is very important), often quoted in marketing circles.
 
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PAY THE MONEY. its £500.

This is an excellent price.

He hasnt said he'll do SEO so why does that matter?

He is offering to make updates for 12 months thats not a bad thing.

This will take a good few days to do so even if he is £100 a day thats a good price.

If you dont have £500 then wait till you do. I would charge 4 - 5 times this for a website so YES ITS A GOOD DEAL
 
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PAY THE MONEY. its £500.

This is an excellent price.

He hasnt said he'll do SEO so why does that matter?

He is offering to make updates for 12 months thats not a bad thing.

This will take a good few days to do so even if he is £100 a day thats a good price.

If you dont have £500 then wait till you do. I would charge 4 - 5 times this for a website so YES ITS A GOOD DEAL


:rolleyes:

Old red indian proverb: Great looking website make many people happy, but not found on search engine make effort to win new business much harder...
 
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TDplus4

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PAY THE MONEY. its £500.

This is an excellent price.

He hasnt said he'll do SEO so why does that matter?

He is offering to make updates for 12 months thats not a bad thing.

This will take a good few days to do so even if he is £100 a day thats a good price.

If you dont have £500 then wait till you do. I would charge 4 - 5 times this for a website so YES ITS A GOOD DEAL


:eek:

Old red indian proverb: Great looking website make many people happy, but not found on search engine make effort to win new business much harder...
 
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Old red indian proverb: Great looking website make many people happy, but not found on search engine make effort to win new business much harder...

Being top of google is not the be all and end all of marketing. Also **** looking websites at the top of google wont get you anything either.

If your whole idea is to get a **** website to the top of google go for it.
 
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Marky65

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Hi

I have read through these posts a couple of times now and have emailed my designer some questions based upon what you have all said.
And if I don't get the answers I am looking for I will be back here contacting some of you for quotes.
Thank you all for you help and advice

Regards

Mark
 
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TDplus4

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Being top of google is not the be all and end all of marketing. Also **** looking websites at the top of google wont get you anything either.

If your whole idea is to get a **** website to the top of google go for it.

Not quite, but nearly - according to IAB & PwC's recent "Online advertising" report (mentioned through BBC News), "Online advertising spending in the UK has overtaken television expenditure for the first time"..nuff said...

I agree, bad-looking websites will not entice visitors to act or engage.

However, the best deal would be to get a great looking website that is visible within the major search engines for the best (most searched for) keyword terms that relate to the products and services being sold. Agree? Why else have a website if it can't be found online? ;)
 
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I might upset a fair few people here that offer "cheap web design", but for a start, asking if £500 is a good price based on the information given is impossible. It reminds me of the type of enquiries I class as a waste of time. The ones that ring up and ask "hello, how much will you do me a site for?".

Generally, with web design, you get what you pay for. If it is £500 and they expect to earn a living doing a site for that much, they won't be spending a lot of time on it. I would also avoid a hosted CMS at all costs - if you don't have ftp access and ownership of the files you are looking at trouble later down the line.

I would normally charge anywhere between £2000 - £50,000 for a CMS website (to give you an idea of how broad my quote would be given that amount of information)

There is a lot more to web design than making a pretty picture clickable, online and number 1 on google.

Research is very important - there is no point in being number 1 in google for search terms that potential customers don't use, and page 300,000 for search terms that they do use.

Web standards, accessibility, usability, cross browser compatibility etc....

Also, if you are number 1 and they click on your site, even if it looks pretty, that doesn't mean you will convert that click to a customer. The wording, layout, element heirarchy etc... all need to guide that visitor to do exactly what you want them to do.

Anyone that is serious about their business and wants a good return from their site should really be expecting to pay upwards of £1500, otherwise you may as well do the site yourself.

Apologies to any "designers" on here that do sites for £50 - £500. This is not a personal attack, there is a market for sites at all prices and levels. I am merely sharing what I know for the sake of the OP
 
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If it's a hosted CMS then probably you wont be able to get all the source code which is needed to run your site - if you ever decided to move. Not really a good thing.

However, it's easy to pick anything to bits .. but for £500 I think it could be worth a shot.

Our web design packages with CMS are a bit more than that mainly because we do more things and I always include a decent amount of on-site SEO as standard.
 
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I completely agree with Deanzod, in my opinion £500 sounds like a pretty cheap CMS solution.

But regardless of the price...What kind of functionality will the site have? that is probably more important than how many pages of content or months of management / hosting you will get.

12 pages of content can be a lot...if there is a lot of content on each page and effort is taken with the layout and typography. If not then it may well be 12 basic pages of basic content. If it is simply a brochure type site then £500 would be ok in my eyes but if you need your clients to sign in and possibly have an area to upload / download files from and to you or you need a blog, ecommerce functionality, forum, billing system etc. then I would go elsewhere and expect to pay per feature.

But in terms of the original quote and if it is a basic brochure type site then it looks like you are getting a lot for a little if you learn to use the CMS properly and taker control.
 
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The price is unreasonable from the website designer's side. Very cheap as others have said. But what he/she is offering is beyond that price. So I don't think you'll get the quality and service you expect to recieve.

Personally I think these two (12 months Managed Web Hosting, 12 months Content Management Service) will eat away half that price being offered or all. Content Management Services are very expensive!!

AGSmiff has broken down this very well.

http://www.caciocode.com
 
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Hi

I have been discussing with a website designer about creating a site for my accountancy services business and I have been quoted just under £500 for the following:
Create site template & graphics plus 9 pages of content​
12 months Managed Web Hosting​
12 months Content Management Service​
Set up email and Google analytics web statistics

My question is, do you think this is a fair price to be charged for this service.

I am sorry but I am not looking for other businesses to contact me with quotes for their web design services.

Thanks for your help

Regards

Mark


[email protected] see what he can do for you, you are looking at £300+ then £40 hosting per year based on your description.

Websites from £150 but see what he can do for you. He is cheep because he works for somone and this is a side business.
 
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If you are getting what you say you are you best bite his hand off now before he changes his mind. That price is some what unrealistic! Have you seen any of this persons previous work. Do you know this person? they would be the questions I would be asking yourself.
 
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dal

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£500 is a great price, I have just built my own site and there is a lot of work in it. Like mentioned mine is just built and I have only just submitted it to google so can't comment on my page rank yet, I'm not happy with it's colouring and I'm going to change a lot of my design as it looks very dated but not bad for a first attempt www.preciseformwork.co.uk
£500 is very cheap if all code VALIDATES and CSS cross-compatibility is good along with SEO.
I would want a lot more than that to do it and been talking to people at work and one guy has just paid £3,000 for his site and it has validation errors and very basic mistakes.
 
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