WP Rocker

[AM2021]

I have added wp rocket and ima gift to the site to improve performance on Google page speed tests. Is this the best option or are there others that would be better.
Thanks

 

[Shopclicks]

Did it improve your page load speed?

 

[fisicx]

wp rocket is a resource hog.

You shouldn’t need a plugin if your site is properly configured and you have decent hosting.

 

[AM2021]

Did it improve your page load speed?

It did on one of my sites but the other one it did not.

 

[Shopclicks]

You shouldn’t need a plugin if your site is properly configured and you have decent hosting.

I can get to 97 without a caching plugin and 100 with Litespeed. I know I don't need it but I like it

 

[Shopclicks]

It did on one of my sites but the other one it did not.

There's a lot more that can be improved on a website outside of caching. There are some themes that caching won't help.

 

[makeusvisible]

One of the problems with caching plugins is that people assume it's the solution to page-insight issues, when it isnt.

If, for example your getting content-layout-shift issues in your page-insights report, that is an issue you should be resolving in the code of your site (probably the css). All your doing by improving page-insights via caching is putting a plaster over the wound.

Where caching providers can help, is with images. Using cloudflare for example to serve the correct size image files, or to reformat your images to webp is a great way to imrove site-speed, but using caching instead of getting a devloper to help resolve issues, is big no no for me.

 

[antropy]

You shouldn’t need a plugin if your site is properly configured and you have decent hosting.

WordPress out the box is incredibly slow.

Paul.

 

[Shopclicks]

WordPress out the box is incredibly slow.

Nobody uses Wordpress out of the box.

But here it is anyway ....

PageSpeed Insights

pagespeed.web.dev

 

[antropy]

Nobody uses Wordpress out of the box.

But here it is anyway ....

PageSpeed Insights

pagespeed.web.dev

That's basically just one static page where no links work. Anyone can make an HTML page that gets 100/100.

What about once you install WooCommerce and actually have some products?

Paul.

 

[Shopclicks]

That's basically just one static page where no links work. Anyone can make an HTML page that gets 100/100.

What about once you install WooCommerce and actually have some products?

You said Wordpress out of the box is slow. It isn't.

Wordpress / Woocommerce is absolutely capable of passing Core Web Vitals.

 

[antropy]

You said Wordpress out of the box is slow. It isn't.

It is once you add content.

Wordpress / Woocommerce is absolutely capable of passing Core Web Vitals.

Capable with lots of work, but it's very slow.

Paul.

 

[Shopclicks]

It is once you add content.

That page has content.

Capable with lots of work, but it's very slow.

It might be lot's of work for your developers. It isn't if you know what you're doing.

 

[antropy]

That page has content.

I mean more pages than just 1.

It might be lot's of work for your developers. It isn't if you know what you're doing.

They could out code you in their sleep.

Paul.

 

[Shopclicks]

I mean more pages than just 1.

It's Wordpress out of the box. What's your point?

They could out code you in their sleep.

But struggle with Wordpress & Woocommerce? That's according to your quote from one of your developers.

 

[antropy]

It's Wordpress out of the box. What's your point?

Nope, out the box means without plugins or custom code, but populated with content as it's obviously no use to anyone otherwise.

But struggle with Wordpress & Woocommerce? That's according to your quote from one of your developers.

Well you're the one who started questioning the ability of my developers, I didn't question your ability until then. However, like I've explained before, we've set up WooCommerce installed various caching extensions and it ran like a dog whatever we did. And not a greyhound.

Paul.

 

[Shopclicks]

Nope, out the box means without plugins or custom code, but populated with content as it's obviously no use to anyone otherwise.

Out of the box means out of the box. If I took the time to add my own content and nothing else, I would expect the same result. And yes, I'm talking about Wordpress out of the box. Not Woocommerce.

However, like I've explained before, we've set up WooCommerce installed various caching extensions and it ran like a dog whatever we did. And not a greyhound.

Anytime you want me to tell you how that's done, you just let me know.

 

[antropy]

Anytime you want me to tell you how that's done, you just let me know.

That's a very kind offer, we had 3 vape shops running in parallel on OpenCart, Prestashop, and WooCommerce to compare the platforms.

We got rid of the WooCommerce one first as it was just so slow and the Prestashop one soon followed mostly because it didn't get any sales, but the platform itself was ok.

Paul.

 

[AM2021]

wp rocket is a resource hog.

You shouldn’t need a plugin if your site is properly configured and you have decent hosting.

My scores for this site are mobile 87 and desktop 98 give or take this can change which I assume is due to shared hosting.

 

[Shopclicks]

My scores for this site are mobile 87 and desktop 98 give or take this can change which I assume is due to shared hosting.

Is that with WP Rocket installed?

There are sites with much lower scores than that, which pass Core Web Vitals. Do you use Search Console?

 

[Shopclicks]

@AM2021 Here are the theme & plugins I use for eCommerce stores:

Litespeed server

Theme: Neve / Neve Child

Plugins:

Elementor
Elementor Pro
Freesoul Deactivate Plugins
HTML in Category Descriptions
Litespeed Cache
Smush Pro
Woocommerce
The SEO Framework

+ Security plugins

https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-shopclicks-co-uk-shop-household/57ont7bi08?form_factor=mobile

We got rid of the WooCommerce one first as it was just so slow

Hmmmm........

 

[YasmeenLondon]

That's basically just one static page where no links work. Anyone can make an HTML page that gets 100/100.

What about once you install WooCommerce and actually have some products?

Paul.

"A tool is only as good as the hands that wield it"

I have a woo-commerce store with 270+ products and 1000+ images scoring 99 on Google's page speed insights, I'm not allowed to share a link here but I am happy to do so in DM.

A lot of amateurs choose WOO (and WordPress in general) because it's "free" and with a theme, you can spin a new website up quite quickly, but unfortunately sometimes being an amateur means you have no idea how to configure a website, for example, optimising images, loading fonts locally, relying on plugins when simple CSS can work and plenty of other mistakes that cause a website to be slow and cumbersome to browse.

 

[AM2021]

Is that with WP Rocket installed?

There are sites with much lower scores than that, which pass Core Web Vitals. Do you use Search Console?

Sorry for the slow reply
Yes that is with WP Rocket installed
Yes we use search console, thanks.

 

[fisicx]

Sorry for the slow reply
Yes that is with WP Rocket installed
Yes we use search console, thanks.

You should be getting better scores than that without using wp_rocket. Which suggests a configuration and optimisation issue.

 

[AM2021]

You should be getting better scores than that without using wp_rocket. Which suggests a configuration and optimisation issue.

Thanks for the reply
Would you mind having a look and how much would you charge? Thanks

 

[fisicx]

Thanks for the reply
Would you mind having a look and how much would you charge? Thanks

Send me a private message

 

[antropy]

A lot of amateurs choose WOO (and WordPress in general) because it's "free" and with a theme, you can spin a new website up quite quickly, but unfortunately sometimes being an amateur means you have no idea how to configure a website, for example, optimising images, loading fonts locally, relying on plugins when simple CSS can work and plenty of other mistakes that cause a website to be slow and cumbersome to browse.

Perhaps, but I'm a senior developer with about 20 years' experience and my in-house PHP developers are ridiculously good. So I don't think that's the issue here.

Paul.

 

[Shopclicks]

Perhaps, but I'm a senior developer with about 20 years' experience and my in-house PHP developers are ridiculously good. So I don't think that's the issue here.

Page Speed Insights is great tool to tell you where you're going wrong.

 

[HostXNow]

WP Rocket is often hyped up because affiliates receive commissions from it. I have found that LSCache is the fastest option. If you select a web host that utilises LiteSpeed Web Server, you can use LSCache for free, eliminating the need to pay for additional plugins like WP Rocket.

 

[fisicx]

WP Rocket is often hyped up because affiliates receive commissions from it.

Yoast is the same. Vastly overrated and not very good.