What?, if your domain name is over 35 characters long, it does not fit in the

[MASSEY]

Display url, then the muppets at google dissaprove it? (adwords display url)

 

[directmarketingadvice]

Yes.

Steve

 

[MASSEY]

Yes.

Steve

Dam , where is the sense in that?

 

[robertt]

Limit to ad width, likewise doyoureallywantlongdomainslikethis.com?

Invest in a short one

 

[MASSEY]

Limit to ad width, likewise doyoureallywantlongdomainslikethis.com?

Invest in a short one

You do if you don't care about branding because you only want lots of click throughs in the organic searches

Its the meta description that entices the click after all.

 

[estwig]

You do if you don't care about branding because you only want lots of click throughs in the organic searches

Its the meta description that entices the click after all.

What has your domain name got to do with meta descriptions??

 

[MASSEY]

What has your domain name got to do with meta descriptions??

Nothing. Why you ask?

 

[robertt]

Worth a read of http://www.memorabledomains.co.uk/ppc-generic-domains.html as sort-of-on-topic

 

[directmarketingadvice]

Dam , where is the sense in that?

As Robert said, that's the width of the ad.

Steve

 

[estwig]

Nothing. Why you ask?

Nothing.

.................

 

[MASSEY]

Worth a read of http://www.memorabledomains.co.uk/ppc-generic-domains.html as sort-of-on-topic

Interesting test, i already thought that was the case. It's just all the generics are gone. For products it is even more so important.

People want ridiculous money for them anyway,

The guy who has BirminghamPlumber.co.uk thinks its worth £999

I would rather just buy "BirminghamPlumber0121.co.uk for a fiver.

 

Interesting test, i already thought that was the case. It's just all the generics are gone. For products it is even more so important.

People want ridiculous money for them anyway,

The guy who has BirminghamPlumber.co.uk thinks its worth £999

I would rather just buy "BirminghamPlumber0121.co.uk for a fiver.

or birmingham-plumber which has a slightly higher value.

Earl

 

[MASSEY]

or birmingham-plumber which has a slightly higher value.

Earl

Which is taken by react fast :redface:

 

[ukconstructionguru]

I was also stung by this on adwords - not able to use a particularly long URL for google adverts.

I've learnt from it though and will be careful going forward.

However (SEO ppl please correct me) am I right in thinking that the URL containing your keywords is beneficial in the google rankings?

I understand that there are a glut of considerations (page rank, backlinks, metadata, title, keywords, copyrighting etc) but have always had much better organic results when the URL contains my keywords.

So all is not lost - may be useless for adverts but organically it's not limited and in my opinion has an advantage if worded correctly.

Come on people, correct my rubbish SEO knowledge...!

Chris

 

[MASSEY]

I was also stung by this on adwords - not able to use a particularly long URL for google adverts.

I've learnt from it though and will be careful going forward.

However (SEO ppl please correct me) am I right in thinking that the URL containing your keywords is beneficial in the google rankings?

I understand that there are a glut of considerations (page rank, backlinks, metadata, title, keywords, copyrighting etc) but have always had much better organic results when the URL contains my keywords.

So all is not lost - may be useless for adverts but organically it's not limited and in my opinion has an advantage if worded correctly.

Come on people, correct my rubbish SEO knowledge...!

Chris

It was a free £50 voucher anyway, i just used it on a diffferent domain.

Keywords in domain name = Very Important

 

[zomex]

Keywords in domain name = Very Important

I certainly agree that it does help with SEO by having keywords in your domain but sometimes it doesn't beat the benefits of using a short brand able domain.

Jack

 

[fisicx]

I have seen the benfits of keywords in the domain name (with hyphens) but I also got sites on page 1 without any keywords in the domain name.

I personally prefer a brand name to mylongkeywordrichdomain4u. It looks better on the business card and is much easier to remember:

'Why not give massey a call, his website is massey.co.uk'

or

'This is a great electrician, his wesbite is qualifiedbirminghambasedelectrician.co.uk'.

Gusess which one gets ignored...

 

[ukconstructionguru]

Of course you need to keep a modicum of common sense and remember all the other key marketing tools that are required for success.

I would say the best way is to have a homepage (e.g.massey.co.uk) and then supplement this by having additional keyword domains.

If you only get 1 site the choice is a no brainer.

Regards

Chris

 

[MASSEY]

im thinking of making a brandable site , i have a url RenovateYourProperty.co.uk but if i use that i will have to structure it like Renovateyourproperty.co.uk/birmingham/electricians-in-birmingham or should i use a domain like CandNPropertySolutions.co.uk ? .

 

[fisicx]

That's a really rubbish brand name. It's a cheapdodgyworkman type domain.

You are trying to hard with the whole domain/keyword thing. Concentrate on your existing site, it starting to come together and you will acheive far more than messing arouind with new domains.

Note: if you got a copywriter to sort out the homepage you would get more leads.

 

[robertt]

People want ridiculous money for them anyway,

The guy who has BirminghamPlumber.co.uk thinks its worth £999

I would rather just buy "BirminghamPlumber0121.co.uk for a fiver.

A grand for that name seems ok - perhaps not for you but are you the person who can unlock that value?

I would bet a brummy plumber is a decent search term, so sort a ranking site (helped by exact match name) on a generic like that and the leads you would be able to sell on , or listings, would be a micro biz worth a few quid.

Decent domain names cost alot of money as there is real value to them, not just looking flash/kudos, but proper bottom line stuff.

Plus, 'asset' value as you can always sell them on...

 

[MASSEY]

but what happens if i got some decent home page copy done and the site drops down the ranks?

 

[fisicx]

but what happens if i got some decent home page copy done and the site drops down the ranks?

It won't. I change my home page all the time and it's made zero difference. As long as the focus of the page is the same you will be fine but because you use the words birmingham and electrician so many times it looks all wrong and won't attract as many leads as a WIIFM type page.

Note: you still haven't got a call to action. Simply adding your telephone number to the header isn't enough, you need to geve me a reason to call.

And the domain name is birminghamelectriciansltd but the header says you are C&N Property Solutions Ltd. Which one is correct?

It's these sorts of things that means you aren't getting as many leads as you could - build the site for people not the search engines.

 

[Toni Anicic]

When it comes to on-site factors (where domain name would be placed), you come to a certain point where keyword in domain becomes so unimportant.

Yea, sure, it's a ranking factor, and yea, it will help you a lot in the start, but once you're in a super competitive industry, one strong backlink your competitor gained simply overruns the value you gain from having a keyword in the domain name. At least that's my experience.

Also, I never did the research but I have a gut feeling that Google figures out you're stuffing keywords in domain when it looks at your link profile and anchors and sees longexampledomainwithmanykeywords.com.

 

[MASSEY]

This website business is harder than it looks. Thanks for the input.